Because LC can't do two things at once.

Mike Kerner MikeKerner at roadrunner.com
Thu Feb 19 13:32:05 EST 2015


Well, for anyone who's ever made an application
multitasking/multithreading, they'll tell you that there is all sorts of
extra complication involved in making it work, and if you've ever written
anything for a multithreading environment, it is definitely a lot of extra
work (it's worth it, IMHO, but it is not easy and straightforward).

You actually can make LC multithreaded-ish, and there have been discussions
about doing that, especially in server setups.

If you were prioritizing features for LC, would this be one of your top 5?
It might make my top 10, but I don't know if it would be in my top 5.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Richmond <richmondmathewson at gmail.com>
wrote:

> That's a quote from another posting . . .
>
> this might be the rock on which Livecode founders.
>
> Other languages can do two, or more, things at once . . . I am either too
> out of touch
> with other computer languages, or I don't know enough about how computer
> languages
> talk to computers (which, de facto, is pretty much the same thing), but I
> wonder WHY
> Livecode cannot do two things at once . . .
>
> AND, could it be revamped so that it could do two things at once?
>
> Java can manage multi-threaded programming . . .
>
> I assume [????] that more and more computer languages are in the process
> of becoming
> capable of multi-threading . . .
>
> A while back, just for fun, I ran up a silly little game where the
> end-user had to steer a rocket past some static
> planets to get to Earth. The reason the planets were static is just
> because I could think of no way of them precessing
> in their orbits while the end-user was pressing arrow keys.
>
> Before I look a complete, steaming nit, I am sure there is a "work
> around"; but, to be quite honest, I wonder how many "work arounds"
> are necessary before the bell rings.
>
> In the great scheme of things my silly little game is neither here nor
> there: what it did do for me was NOT demonstrate
> the super capabilities of Livecode [ after 14 years of messing around with
> Livecode I am pretty well aware of those ],
> BUT demonstrate some of its limitations . . .
>
> Now, I know that the initial idea of Livecode was this:
>
> Kevin designing a front-end for a UNIX clone of Hypercard that he felt was
> more user-friendly than the Metacard one.
>
> However, like the Rary, it grew out of control . . .
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Side line; extreme tangentialism coming up: skip down to next load of
> dotted lines if you have a problem drifting
> off-off-off-topic with Richmond.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> There was a Scotsman down to University in England, who was walking down
> the road and saw a matchbox lying in the road.
>
> Picking up the matchbox and opening it he found, inside, a small note
> written on a piece of paper and a small, black, spherical
> object that pulsated.
>
> The paper said; "This matchbox contains a Rary; feed it and care for it
> and it will bring you good fortune."
>
> The Scotsman took the matchbox back to his student room and started to
> feed the Rary; after his 3 years (short degree courses in England)
> the Rary was about the size of a tennis ball; black and hairy with no
> obvious eyes, mouth or other orifices.
>
> The man went away back to his butt-and-ben in the hills to look after his
> ageing parents, and continued to feed the Rary; by the time his
> parents were gathered the thing was about the size of a large medicine
> ball.
>
> Over the years our man continued to care for the Rary until it became the
> size of a small tractor and the man was beggared with
> the feeding bills.
>
> He decide to get rid of the Rary; so he got the thing into a boat and
> rowed it all the way south down the West Coast and past France and Spain;
> left into the Mediterranean, through the Suez canal, all the way across
> the Indian ocean until he came to Japan.
>
> Arriving at Japan he rolled the Rary, at great personal expense to himself
> and his health, up to the top of a very high cliff.
>
> He was just about to push the Rary over the cliff when it turned to him
> and said:
>
> "It's a long way to tip a Rary."
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Should this story really annoy you; I take no credit whatsoever for it; my
> father, Donald Mathewson, told it to me when I was about 7,
> and, at the risk of sounding incredibly juvenile, I haven't stopped
> laughing since.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> NOW, Livecode is no longer a UNIX clone of Hypercard with Kevin's GUI
> strapped on the front.
>
> Nor is it anything like what it was 10 years ago.
>
> So, it has to keep growing AND evolving to compete [ THAT is the magic
> word ] . . .
>
> ---------------------
> After all; if it ONLY grows, then it is going to get pushed
> off the cliff soon enough.
> ---------------------
>
> Possibly the next reasonable step is multi-threading ?????????
>
> Let the debate RAGE :)
>
> Richmond.
>
>
>
>
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