[not quite OT] Serving a standalone

[William Prothero]

Richard:
Whoops, I see you said the downloads were erased at the end of each session.
Where do you put the executables? On the Mac, in the Applications folder there would have to be the admin permissions given.
The Documents folder? The Application Support folder inside the user’s Library folder? Or….
Bill

> On Feb 8, 2015, at 2:28 PM, William Prothero <prothero at earthednet.org> wrote:
> 
> Richard:
> This sounds like a great way to go!
> 
> I think I’m getting that the “Splash” app downloads the executables and whatever media is needed, and then these are erased at the end of the session, so that new ones are downloaded each session? Or is it done more like the browser cache, where it can be emptied manually, or regularly, and then new stuff is downloaded if updates are available.
> 
> I’m wondering, though, if the future that Apple has in mind is the iOS-ification of the Mac OS so that sandboxing and downloading of added executables is not allowed. Kay made this comment previously. Just wondering.
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Richard Gaskin <ambassador at fourthworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>> William Prothero wrote:
>> 
>>> Hopefully the coming HTML5 export will make it easier to integrate
>>> Livecode apps into a web delivery. The main advantage of this is
>>> the ease of updating the software.
>> 
>> The HTML output option will be a great thing for many projects, but I think it's safe to say it's many months away.
>> 
>> In the meantime, that main benefit of instant updates is easily achievable with LiveCode right now.
>> 
>> With HTML all code, UI, and data is downloaded over the wire.  With LiveCode we can do the same by merely extending the "anchor window" (or "splash stack") setup to open stacks from URLs rather than local files:
>> 
>> go url "http://yourdomain/stacks/stackfile.livecode"
>> 
>> You can even cut the transfer time by more than half using LC's built-in gzip compression:
>> 
>> go decompress(url "http://yourdomain/stacks/stackfile.livecode.gz)
>> 
>> A majority of the projects I'm working on currently use this setup. They're workgroup collaboration tools where an Internet connection is needed for the data anyway, so we just extended that to download all the stacks as well.
>> 
>> The standalone has only enough code to find the server and download the first stack.  Everything from that point on is handled in stacks that are always up to date, downloaded from the server at the start of each session just like HTML is.
>> 
>> But since we're using LiveCode, we're able to deliver all of the benefits of a UI designed specifically for the task at hand, never having to ponder the sorts of questions we do when we're making web apps, like "How do we handle the Back button?"  And we never have to sweat browser compatibility issues.  The UIs we deliver are fully dedicated for the workflows they support.
>> 
>> I often go a year or more without having to update the client standalone, far less frequent than most browser updates.  On one project we have a client app that's been in use by more than 100 team members for more than two years, and all the new features they're enjoying come over the wire as quickly as I can upload them to the server.
>> 
>> And if you haven't played with the fairly recent securityPermissions global property, you're in for a treat:  lock down everything except network access and your client app is far more secure than most browsers.  So admins are as happy with your security as the project owner is with your rapid deployment and your end-users are with your app's performance and usability.
>> 
>> Net-savvy apps aren't the answer for every need, and there will be a place for Web apps for years to come.
>> 
>> But if there's anything we've learned from the mobile world that we can use in our desktop work, it's that OS-native apps often outperform and provide better usability than cramming a UI inside of a browser window.
>> 
>> And with LiveCode, this is super easy to do right now.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Richard Gaskin
>> Fourth World Systems
>> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
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