screen readers

Richmond richmondmathewson at
Thu Aug 27 04:57:57 EDT 2015

On 08/27/2015 11:29 AM, Graham Samuel wrote:
> I feel a bit Richmond-ish asking this (whether this is a good thing or a bad thing I leave as an exercise for the reader), but what is a screen reader in this context, and how and why has the very wide-ranging term ‘accessibility’ been hijacked in relation to it? I ask as an ignorant observer, but you never know, I might one day want to follow the path that Phil is taking (so far unsuccessfully, but probably it will be made to work in time).

Ha, Ha; now you'll get what you deserve!

As far as I understand "a screen reader in this context" is a piece of 
software that can
turn any text in a LiveCode stack and/or standalone into speech to 
facilitate blind and
partially sighted people.

"Accessibility" is a bit like "Issues" . . .

Woolly thinking reflected in woolly words, or that the people who use 
these sorts of words are
so paranoid about being politically correct they forget that a spade is 
a 'spade' instead of
an "earth relocation instrument", I just don't know!

I think by 'accessibility' . . . 'in this context' . . . it is meant 
that a stack is not 'accessible'
to blind people because they cannot see it, unless a screen reader 
can,somehow,verbalise what is displayed on screen.

Now I need to be belted round the chops for using 'blind' rather than 
'visually challenged'!

> I suppose I’m getting too old to keep up with all this, but if anyone has a moment to explain, I’d be grateful.

I'll send you my spare Zimmer frame by return of post :)

> Graham
>> On 26 Aug 2015, at 20:04, Phil Davis <revdev at> wrote:
>> Has anyone been able to make desktop stacks work with screen readers? I'm experimenting with the Mac's VoiceOver utility (included with OS X), and VO doesn't know how to interact with a stack - it identifies the window as "unknown" and doesn't allow you to interact with its elements/objects.
>> Thanks for any tips or insights you can share any tips from your experience.
>> -- 
>> Phil Davis
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