Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

[Scott Rossi]

Sorry Paul, Mobirise is even out of beta and it's already obsolete:
https://vimeo.com/127926346


Admittedly, it's not free.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 8/21/15, 12:38 AM, "Paul Richards" <paul at smarttsoftware.co.uk> wrote:

>Not a CMS builder, but a drag & drop webpage builder - to quote "No
>coding & free"
>
>http://mobirise.com/
>
>Paul :-) 
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On
>Behalf Of Scott Rossi
>Sent: 19 August 2015 16:42
>To: LiveCode Mail List <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
>Subject: Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card
>
>Here we go: Just 3 minutes ago, I received a announcement from Webflow
>for their new visual CMS:
>https://webflow.com/cms
>
>Building without programming is a popular trend :-)
>
>Regards,
>
>Scott Rossi
>Creative Director
>Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>
>
>
>
>On 8/19/15, 8:35 AM, "Scott Rossi" <scott at tactilemedia.com> wrote:
>
>>This kind of visual drag-and-drop programming UI has been done (and
>>will continue to be done) for decades, and works pretty well for simple
>>logic.
>>The whole "build without writing code" concept is pretty big right now.
>>But visual programming becomes unwieldy and difficult to follow when
>>logic gets complex.  And it's unlikely that a visual interface could
>>handle all the options provided by the LiveCode language.  But for
>>simple projects, this could be useful for beginners, or when quickly
>>building a stack.
>>
>>Apple's Automator has worked this way for years now, and Audio Hijack
>>on OS X is another app that recently employed a visual UI:
>>https://www.rogueamoeba.com/audiohijack/
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Scott Rossi
>>Creative Director
>>Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 8/19/15, 5:20 AM, "Roger Eller" <roger.e.eller at sealedair.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Speaking of workflows, we use a product called Automation Engine in
>>>our prepress shop.  You may not think "programming" when you hear the
>>>word "prepress", but with AE, that is exactly what it is.  We take
>>>business logic, and map it to tasks, loops, forks, file io, error
>>>handlers, etc.
>>>with a graphical workflow editor.  Tasks are listed on the right,
>>>which you drag onto the workspace and arrange and connect them.  Each
>>>task has properties you set by double-clicking to open a panel.  This
>>>would be a slick way to build, or at least connect LC objects to their
>>>inputs/outputs/errors.  Have a look at this short video.  Ignore the
>>>stuff about artwork QC.
>>>
>>>I think a "modern" editor should be something like this... not VB6.
>>>
>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbnaqbH5QK8
>>>
>>>~Roger
>>>On Aug 19, 2015 1:31 AM, "Richard Gaskin" <ambassador at fourthworld.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Richmond wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > My main 'beef' with an IDE of the VB6 type is that it blocks the
>>>> > desktop from view and doesn't seem good if one wants to rearrange
>>>> > where one's palettes sit on the screen.
>>>> >
>>>> > Things might prove a bit awkward if one wants to make a stack as
>>>> > big as one's desktop if one cannot shunt palettes around and about.
>>>> >
>>>> > Of course this is all about taste (meaning it's all in the mouth)
>>>> > so it would seem best, if an all-in-one IDE like the VB6 one is to
>>>> > be introduced to have it as one of 2 options.
>>>>
>>>> I believe it's more than about taste with LiveCode, it's about
>>>>workflow.
>>>>
>>>> LiveCode isn't like other languages, where working with controls is
>>>>little  more than a drawing program because nothing there is LIVE
>>>>CODE.
>>>>
>>>> For us, it's less like building an app inside of an IDE as it is
>>>>running  an IDE along side our apps.  Our windows are separate
>>>>because they're real  windows, not just inert proxies.
>>>>
>>>> I went into this in greater detail a couple months back:
>>>> <http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2015-May/214703.html
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> The Viewer widget needed for that UI will be very nice for us, but I
>>>>fear  making an IDE based around it, as it would no longer be truly
>>>>LIVE CODE.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>  Richard Gaskin
>>>>  Fourth World Systems
>>>>  Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the
>>>> Web  
>>>>____________________________________________________________________
>>>>  Ambassador at FourthWorld.com                http://www.FourthWorld.com
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