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scott at tactilemedia.com
Wed Aug 19 17:41:48 CEST 2015
Here we go: Just 3 minutes ago, I received a announcement from Webflow for
their new visual CMS:
Building without programming is a popular trend :-)
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
On 8/19/15, 8:35 AM, "Scott Rossi" <scott at tactilemedia.com> wrote:
>This kind of visual drag-and-drop programming UI has been done (and will
>continue to be done) for decades, and works pretty well for simple logic.
>The whole "build without writing code" concept is pretty big right now.
>But visual programming becomes unwieldy and difficult to follow when logic
>gets complex. And it's unlikely that a visual interface could handle all
>the options provided by the LiveCode language. But for simple projects,
>this could be useful for beginners, or when quickly building a stack.
>Apple's Automator has worked this way for years now, and Audio Hijack on
>OS X is another app that recently employed a visual UI:
>Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>On 8/19/15, 5:20 AM, "Roger Eller" <roger.e.eller at sealedair.com> wrote:
>>Speaking of workflows, we use a product called Automation Engine in our
>>prepress shop. You may not think "programming" when you hear the word
>>"prepress", but with AE, that is exactly what it is. We take business
>>logic, and map it to tasks, loops, forks, file io, error handlers, etc.
>>with a graphical workflow editor. Tasks are listed on the right, which
>>drag onto the workspace and arrange and connect them. Each task has
>>properties you set by double-clicking to open a panel. This would be a
>>slick way to build, or at least connect LC objects to their
>>inputs/outputs/errors. Have a look at this short video. Ignore the
>>about artwork QC.
>>I think a "modern" editor should be something like this... not VB6.
>>On Aug 19, 2015 1:31 AM, "Richard Gaskin" <ambassador at fourthworld.com>
>>> Richmond wrote:
>>> > My main 'beef' with an IDE of the VB6 type is that it blocks the
>>> > desktop from view and doesn't seem good if one wants to rearrange
>>> > where one's palettes sit on the screen.
>>> > Things might prove a bit awkward if one wants to make a stack as
>>> > big as one's desktop if one cannot shunt palettes around and about.
>>> > Of course this is all about taste (meaning it's all in the mouth)
>>> > so it would seem best, if an all-in-one IDE like the VB6 one is
>>> > to be introduced to have it as one of 2 options.
>>> I believe it's more than about taste with LiveCode, it's about
>>> LiveCode isn't like other languages, where working with controls is
>>> more than a drawing program because nothing there is LIVE CODE.
>>> For us, it's less like building an app inside of an IDE as it is
>>> an IDE along side our apps. Our windows are separate because they're
>>> windows, not just inert proxies.
>>> I went into this in greater detail a couple months back:
>>> The Viewer widget needed for that UI will be very nice for us, but I
>>> making an IDE based around it, as it would no longer be truly LIVE
>>> Richard Gaskin
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