Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

Roger Eller roger.e.eller at sealedair.com
Wed Aug 19 14:20:41 CEST 2015


Speaking of workflows, we use a product called Automation Engine in our
prepress shop.  You may not think "programming" when you hear the word
"prepress", but with AE, that is exactly what it is.  We take business
logic, and map it to tasks, loops, forks, file io, error handlers, etc.
with a graphical workflow editor.  Tasks are listed on the right, which you
drag onto the workspace and arrange and connect them.  Each task has
properties you set by double-clicking to open a panel.  This would be a
slick way to build, or at least connect LC objects to their
inputs/outputs/errors.  Have a look at this short video.  Ignore the stuff
about artwork QC.

I think a "modern" editor should be something like this... not VB6.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbnaqbH5QK8

~Roger
On Aug 19, 2015 1:31 AM, "Richard Gaskin" <ambassador at fourthworld.com>
wrote:

> Richmond wrote:
>
> > My main 'beef' with an IDE of the VB6 type is that it blocks the
> > desktop from view and doesn't seem good if one wants to rearrange
> > where one's palettes sit on the screen.
> >
> > Things might prove a bit awkward if one wants to make a stack as
> > big as one's desktop if one cannot shunt palettes around and about.
> >
> > Of course this is all about taste (meaning it's all in the mouth)
> > so it would seem best, if an all-in-one IDE like the VB6 one is
> > to be introduced to have it as one of 2 options.
>
> I believe it's more than about taste with LiveCode, it's about workflow.
>
> LiveCode isn't like other languages, where working with controls is little
> more than a drawing program because nothing there is LIVE CODE.
>
> For us, it's less like building an app inside of an IDE as it is running
> an IDE along side our apps.  Our windows are separate because they're real
> windows, not just inert proxies.
>
> I went into this in greater detail a couple months back:
> <http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2015-May/214703.html>
>
> The Viewer widget needed for that UI will be very nice for us, but I fear
> making an IDE based around it, as it would no longer be truly LIVE CODE.
>
> --
>  Richard Gaskin
>  Fourth World Systems
>  Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
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