Business Application Framework
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Thu Aug 13 01:10:33 CEST 2015
Monte Goulding wrote:
>> 1. Why hasn't this been more widely promoted?
> It's only been promoted on the lists, forums and Facebook. For
> a while RunRev were going to buy it, then they decided to do
> their own so I stopped pushing ahead with lcVCS as it appeared
> to be a waste of time. Now this and maybe it's back in the game..
> Not sure yet.
It seems that it's very much in the game. Peter's post was especially
helpful for two reasons:
- It confirms the inherent difficulty in creating a general-purpose
VCS tool that covers all edge cases.
- It clarifies that LiveCode's solution is even more limited in terms
of applicable uses cases, specialized for use in this very specific
business framework system.
Given this, I think it's well past time for us all to give lcVCS a
second look as the community's solution for version control.
IIRC the edge cases it may not handle are relatively uncommon anyway,
and the value it provides has been strong enough for Trevor to write
some very glowing things about.
Let's embrace it, enhance it, and make it a centerpiece for all of us
who use Github.
>> 2. Why hasn't it been submitted to the only resource-sharing tool we
>> have built into the IDE?
> I'm not sure I've ever looked in there... Is it worthwhile?
"Sample Stacks" is a bit of a turn-off, and the older "RevOnline" name
wasn't much better. But the role is very very worthwhile: it's where all
of us can share stack files easily.
In a recent meeting with Kevin it was clear he recognizes the value of
that role, and we both agree the name needs to be changed one more time
to make sure it reflects the useful role for us to share things. He's
working with the team to see if that can happen soon.
In the meantime, any of us can upload it there, esp. given your generous
choice of GPL for its license. But one of the nice things about your
posting it is that it reflects your name, and given how much work you
put into it I'm all in favor of anything that provides as much
recognition as possible for you.
> Before you get excited lcVCS doesn't support LC 8 yet because I'd
> need to depend on IDE code to do it at the moment and that seems
> risky. That and there appeared to be no point working on it until
I wouldn't worry about v8 just yet. It's a very exciting set of new
technologies, but it's going to be some months before it's as robust and
performant as the current version, and there are still a few design
decisions to be completed.
For now the company's revenue is dependent on the current version, v7,
and with v6 soon to be EOL'd we all need to make sure v7 is rock solid
for us anyway.
So lets dive in with lcVCS in v7 today, and with any luck the project
will attract enough contributors that they'll be able to handle at least
some of whatever work may be needed to port it to v8 later, allowing you
to maximize the time you spend on your externals which the community
depends on as well.
LiveCode Community Manager
richard at livecode.com
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