how to disturb newbies

[larry at significantplanet.org]

Richard,
It appears to me that you missed my point.
I do not see how me adding a note to my OWN Dictionary causes a spam issue.
Right now if I want to add a note to the Dictionary I have to log in. Then 
the note is submitted for approval (I don't know to whom.)
Then if the note is approved by (whomever) it gets added to the Dictionary 
for everyone. Is that the spam you're talking about? Because that is already 
in place.
I am NOT talking about Dictionary policing.  I am saying that I want to only 
edit MY PERSONAL copy of the Dictionary.

Also, it would be nice to search on the body and notes of the Dictionary. If 
that is currently possible (in 6.1.1) I do not know how to do it.
Thanks,
Larry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Gaskin" <ambassador at fourthworld.com>
To: <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: how to disturb newbies


> larry wrote:
>
> > I appreciate all this effort to improve the Dictionary.
> > But I feel the discussion about allowing EACH LC user to personally
> > modify the Dictionary with his/her own notes is being overlooked.
> > I think it is crazy that LC only allows notes in the Dictionary that
> > have been reviewed by the staff.
>
> It may seem crazy until you consider the alternative:  once any 
> communications venue is open for unmoderated posting by everyone, it 
> becomes a spam magnet.
>
> If it weren't for the daily efforts of the volunteer forum moderators, the 
> LiveCode forums would be an unusable cesspool of spam.
>
> Like the forums, an unmoderated Comments facility in the Dictionary would 
> require significant manual effort from a sizable team to keep it in check.
>
> We often don't think about spam as an issue, but that's only because of 
> the team of moderators working across multiple time zones culling such 
> posts and banning those accounts almost as soon as they come in, every 
> day.
>
> Personally, I find the forum spam moderation more than enough work for me, 
> and I'd guess Klaus and the mods feel the same.  Adding Dictionary 
> policing to that task load would take resources away from the community 
> that could be better applied to more interesting things, like:
>
>
> > I WANT to add my own notes to the Dictionary, edit the examples,
> > etc.  In short, I don't want to wait around for the LC Community
> > to fix MY Dictionary.
>
> I can't fault others for wanting to share the benefits of their learning 
> with the rest of the community.  That desire for sharing is what's 
> motivating the focus around an enhancement process that benefits everyone. 
> LiveCode is a relatively recent entrant into the open source world, but as 
> we move forward we're finding ever better ways to coordinate the desires 
> of community members to help others for maximum benefit for all.
>
> That said, I recognize that from time to time folks may have a desire for 
> something more specialized, in your case for local personal notes. 
> Thankfully Peter Haworth (whom I had the pleasure of finally meeting in 
> person at RevLive last month) seems to have come through for you - this is 
> from a post he made here yesterday:
>
> > I have a free plugin that allows you to enter your own notes
> > and tags about a dictionary entry.  They are local to you so
> > not available to all users.
> >
> > If interested, you can find it at
> > http://www.lcsql.com/free-stuff.html
>
> Thank you, Peter, for taking the time to craft that tool and your 
> generosity in sharing it with the community.
>
> -- 
>  Richard Gaskin
>  LiveCode Community Manager
>  richard at livecode.org
>
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