hair-pulling frustration

[Dr. Hawkins]

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Richard Gaskin <ambassador at fourthworld.com>
wrote:

> Dr. Hawkins wrote:
>
>  On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>>
>>  Any other specific issues you feel are show-stoppers may well be worth
>>> looking into, and I'd be happy to help if I can.  But to do that I'd need
>>> to know what they are.
>>>
>>>
>> That the IDE doesn't work?
>>
>
> I'll run a search for "IDE doesn't work" and see what I can come up with.
> ;)
>

:)


>
>
> For those following this the breakpoint bugs are:
> http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13997
> http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13998
> http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13999
>
> I did a quick triage on those:
>
> The first one ('97) was especially interesting because in all the years
> I'd been using LC I'd never used that particular feature.  The description
> of that feature on p68 of the User Guide does seem to match your
> expectations, and I was able to confirm your report.
>

The only reason *I* found it (the feature) was that I was trying to set
breakpoints, and my usual ways didn't work.


> The second one ('98) was one that could benefit from others here who've
> used the debugger more than I have (Jacque, that means you <g>).  I'm not
> sure if it's a bug or merely needs more explanation in the docs.
>

I suspect it may need someone running livecode itself in another debugger,
or massive checkpoint dumping in the IDE code.


> The last one ('99) I was unable to reproduce, but if there are any
> additional steps I can follow to reliably reproduce I'd be happy to submit
> my notes there.
>

It seems to be some level of corruption that survives saving and reloading.


>
>
>  And how many years has it been since a current version can watch a global
>> variable without crashing? or the false failures to compile over shadowed
>> names?
>>
>
> Bug #s?
>
> Anyone else experience those?
>
>
These get discussed here every few months.


> There was a recent comment about shadowed name warnings in the Facebook
> group recently, but that seemed related to turning on the feature to warn
> about those (Prefs -> Script Editor -> Strict Compilation Mode).  The
> person who noted the issue reported back that after restoring that feature
> to its default "off" setting he was happy.  Is that not working for you?


!!!

No, not having strict compilation can't make me happy; I depend upon such
things.  (I don't even like the lack of case sensitivity in names, or the
inability to apply types, but those only bite on the database side, and I
have scripts that watch my stacks for those on every build.
-- 
Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq.
(702) 508-8462