[OT] SWIFT

Erik Beugelaar ebeugelaar at gmail.com
Mon Jul 14 17:36:33 EDT 2014


I always get tired of this kind of announcements concering 'new halleluja" program languages... the only real language ever born was C and to be more specific: plain C. Even C++ with only new so called OO (just another notation of writing seperation of data and methods just as Swift now with another syntax) was never invented without C... The rest is history. One exception I want to make is for LISP. Mother of all 'human like writing' of software development tools.

 Richmond <richmondmathewson at gmail.com> wrote:

>On 14/07/14 23:45, stephen barncard wrote:
>> Apple is touting this like the second coming....
>>
>> but... haven't we been doing this for a while in Revolution/RunRev/Livecode
>> ?
>>
>> typeless
>> just in time compiling
>> prefab blocks
>> easier than Obj C
>> VERY FAST
>> " it lets you write code on one side of your computer screen and see the
>> results appear on the other side. In other words, you can watch your
>> program run as you write it."
>>
>> wow. But it might not be cross platform.
>>
>>
>
>‘People will jump to this new language because it’s so much easier to 
>code in. They have to use either Objective-C or Swift, and most people 
>will go for Swift.’
>
>This is, of course, a silly trick: "either Objective-C or Swift"; let's 
>quietly ignore Livecode, Supercard
>and a whole slew of other languages:
>
>There are NOT only 2 object oriented/based computer languages.
>
>What a lot of hype based on a bit of false logic!
>
>"it's so much easier to code in." easier than WHAT? Bl**dy silly; no 
>point of comparison.
>
>‘A lot of people were really put off by Objective-C and its unusual 
>syntax. Swift, with its more regular syntax, standard syntax, can really 
>help with getting those people interested.’
>
>"9 out of 10 housewives surveyed wash their husbands underpants with 
>new, whiter, Swift."
>
>These statements have absolutely no objective value whatsoever; only of 
>any use if they can
>reel in the suckers who cannot tell valid statistics from cobblers.
>
>---------------
>
>Swift may be jolly good, and so on; but that article stinks of all the 
>cheap journalistic tricks in the book.
>
>----------------
>
>"Coders still need good reasons to make the switch from Objective-C to 
>Swift."
>
>Really? What about the thousands, millions of coders who either have 
>never used Objective-C,
>or have already 'switched' to another programming language?
>
>-----------------
>
>Surely the sensible way to assess Swift is NOT to read silly articles, 
>but to download the language and
>give it a try:
>
>https://developer.apple.com/swift/
>
>There goes next weekend!
>
>Richmond.
>
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