Defining Pet Features and Essentials

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Ender.


I was the cause of the previous flame war. Caught me by surprise as well.


I have no doubt of your integrity, and that is all that matters. These hassles occur now and then. There is no reason to belabor this. We are glad to have you in this community.


Back to LC. Now that is something we can all agree needs disciplining.


Craig



-----Original Message-----
From: Ender Nafi Elekcioglu <endernafi at keehuna.com>
To: LiveCode Forums <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
Sent: Wed, Feb 12, 2014 2:37 pm
Subject: Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials


Once again, I hit that 15kb. barrier.

Repeating myself without quoting Jacque’s reply; I hope this will be short 
enough for the mail-list :)


Hi Jacque,

Actually we talked about it in detail with Richmond.
I already removed the post from nabble; 
pity that I can’t remove it from your individual inboxes, too.

Cultural differences can be confusing.
Names of genital organs are little insulting, if any, in our culture, for 
example.
They are been used actively as part of small-talk, vulgar;
but most of the time, they mean close to “buddy, pal, …”
Funny, isn’t it?


Whereas “pig” is condescending, “ox” means dumb, “dog” is pretty insulting.
I can understand “pig”, both Jews and Muslims consider it as dirty and 
un-kosher/not-halal.
I just don’t know why “dog” is a curse.
Believe me, it’s really harsh to a degree that it’s one of few reasons which 
make me physically fight with someone.
It’s hard-coded to my neurons, collateral effects of my culture.
In fact, I love dogs as animals; they’re cute, loyal, fun, smart.
But as a swear, it’s rough.
And I’m not a touchy guy, usually don’t take swears serious; they’re just 
childish for me not a reason to argue.

I should have thought about the nuances between cultures.
That was clearly my mistake.


Another important thing about this issue is *being over-touchy / short-tempered 
of Middle Eastern people*.
Richmond expressed this very well and I’m quoting from him, I hope he’s ok with 
it:

What never ceases to amaze me is how it is perfectly acceptable for non-WASP 
cultures to make supposedly off-colour remarks about WASP culture,
while the other way round is jumped on like crazy whether it is or is intended 
to be offensive in reality or not


He’s absolutely right.
We call this behavior as “playing the aggrieved card”.
It’s a common approach in this part of world.
Even the richest businessmen and strongest politicians use this.
They use because it’s proven as effective and it’s part of our culture, how 
we’ve been raised.
Hard-coded, if I may.

I was completely against it, yet I did it myself
Because I belong to this culture and my culture’s shackles have bounded me since 
my childhood.
Despite how much I try to free myself from those, I can’t succeed always.
Shame for me :/


~ Ender
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