[OT] will amuse you Linux fans

[Richmond]

On 08/02/14 18:11, Andrew Kluthe wrote:
> Gmail handles replies to list email a little differently. Unless  I
> specifically hit reply on bobs email it just quotes the last one in the
> thread.

Dunno about that: I use Gmail and view it via ThunderBird where each 
emial comes in non-threaded: I find
that a lot easier than viewing it in a browser or a threaded system.

Cannot recommend it enough: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/

Richmond.

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> Andrew
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> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Andrew Kluthe <andrew at ctech.me> wrote:
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>> Richmond,
>>
>> My response was directed towards Bob.
>>
>>
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>> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Richmond <richmondmathewson at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/02/14 17:51, Andrew Kluthe wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Those who choose to obey the laws" are either those who are the
>>>> beneficiaries of such instruments, or to whom the instrument has rendered
>>>> all other choices and possibilities unworthy of consideration. The point
>>>> is
>>>> that even in western democracies, people don't actually have a choice in
>>>> the matter. You obey or you are punished. That is the presupposition of
>>>> the
>>>> whole concept: removal (whether it is perceived as voluntary or
>>>> otherwise)
>>>> of choice to those who know properly how to do the choosin'.
>>>>
>>>> Government in North Korea is maintained by the same force and threats as
>>>> it
>>>> is in most any western democracy. The difference being that in western
>>>> democracies the populace is encouraged to take an actionable role in
>>>> their
>>>> own subjugation and the subjugation of others in an attempt to feel like
>>>> we
>>>> belong and have agency in such matters. We are allowed to choose
>>>> wallpaper
>>>> patterns for the homes we are allowed to live in by being obedient enough
>>>> to be granted some kind of economic privilege. In exchange for our
>>>> co-operation, we earn a chance at a more personally satisfying (to some)
>>>> servitude. Should any groups of people in a western democracy decide
>>>> against being servile, we know for sure that force will arrive there to
>>>> restore servility.
>>>>
>>>> I'd prefer not to allow my liberty to be (or at least work to prevent
>>>> from
>>>> being) bound by involuntary contracts like constitutions, writs and the
>>>> like.
>>>>
>>>> And after reading over the thread again I'd like to point out:
>>>>
>>>> "Those who choose to obey the laws (that they themselves are protected
>>>> by I
>>>> might add) do not need to be compelled."
>>>>
>>>> This phrase strikes me now as something very similar to what a gangster
>>>> might say when attempting to expand a protection racket.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not suggesting that you
>>>>
>>> To whom does "you" refer to?
>>>
>>> Unless that is cleared up somebody is going to feel their nose has been
>>> put out of joint :)
>>>
>>> Richmond.
>>>
>>>
>>>   are a gangster or run a protection racket, of
>>>> course, but that the logic being implied by your concept of governance
>>>> lines up perfectly with what I am describing. I think that we are in
>>>> agreement about function but just have different biases and perspectives
>>>> into those functions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Richmond <richmondmathewson at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   On 08/02/14 07:06, Bob Sneidar wrote:
>>>>>   Only upon the lawless. :-) Those who choose to obey the laws (that they
>>>>>> themselves are protected by I might add) do not need to be compelled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   There is a small problem there.
>>>>> I am sure that most of us here on the Use-List would applaud a North
>>>>> Korean who broke certain of that
>>>>> country's draconian laws,
>>>>>
>>>>> and, furthermore,
>>>>>
>>>>> do not feel groovy about the sort of compulsion that goes on there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now that is one end of a continuum, and the question is, and always has
>>>>> been,
>>>>> where one should decide breaking a law is legitimate protest and where
>>>>> it
>>>>> is
>>>>> a crime.
>>>>>
>>>>> Richmond.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Andrew Kluthe
>> andrew at ctech.me
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