resetting preferences in 7.0.1 rc4 (Windows 7)

[Bernard Devlin]

Mike, I'm extremely grateful for your help on this matter.  And I have
finally got some kind of explanation of what is going wrong.

Hearing that the native appearance manager worked for you on Win7/64 -
which is what I'm on too - I created another user account and logged in
there.  LC7 RC4 "native theme" works when using that account. That was a
breakthrough.

So I returned to my normal account and checked if I had switched off Aero
or something else.  I hadn't.  But what I had done was had set an image as
my desktop background.  I saved that "theme", and reverted to the default
Windows 7 theme, and now "native theme" works within LC7.  Having a plain
themed background has not been a problem on LC 5.x or 6.x.  I was working
on this Win7 PC with LC 5.5 for about 3 years.

If I revert back to my old desktop theme, with LC7 open, the "view" menu
gets completely screwed up in LC7.  Basically, it looks like a wreck -- it
has different colours from the other LC menus and is neither a Win95, OS X
nor Motif theme.  Restart LC7 with my themed desktop, and I'm back to a
Motif appearance and the problem of the "native theme" option not working.
If I switch to any of the other provided themes which are installed on
Win7, then it is only after a restart of LC7 that the appearance reverts,
and "native theme" works.

I guess this must mean I'm the only LC user who has created a theme of
their own.  Mine was nothing more than a graphic I used as the backdrop for
the desktop.

I can at least enter this in the bug report.

Regards,
Bernard



On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Mike Bonner <bonnmike at gmail.com> wrote:

> Can't test on 7.0.1 stable, but on rc4 it has an affect. in rc4 from the
> menu, it does appear to work for me, setting back to the native appearance
> manager look.
>
> I looked at this though:
> The "Appearance Manager" option can be used only on Windows XP, Mac OS and
> OS X systems. If you set the lookAndFeel to "Appearance Manager" on a Unix
>  system, it is reset to "Motif". Similarly, tf you set the lookAndFeel to
> "Appearance Manager" on a pre-Windows XP system, it is reset to "Wondows
> 95".
>
> It is still behaving as if the engine doesn't think you're on windows.
> Since you can set it, and it is then "reset", somewhere in there it must be
> checking the platform and failing.  At this point, since you checked the
> platform from the msg box, I have NO idea why it might be doing that.  So
> color me stumped.
>
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Bernard Devlin <bdrunrev at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The suggestion about a system proxy was a good one!
> >
> > That proxy was disabled on a system-wide basis on Windows; the values for
> > the proxy were still in the boxes (but grayed-out).  It appears all the
> > browsers were ignoring these values, as the Internet Options said to not
> > use a proxy.  Livecode seemed to get that value still.  After setting
> that
> > to empty on a system-wide basis, then saving revPreferences, the proxy
> > value is now empty in LC across restarts.
> >
> > Alas the lookAndFeel is still not working.  I took your suggestion
> > seriously, and did a restart. But still no change on this front.
> >
> > If I put the platform, it is "Win32".  If I change the lookAndFeel
> through
> > the menu, then the lookAndFeel reports "Windows 95".  But this does not
> > persist across restarts.  You may be right, that the lookAndFeel is not
> > saved with revPreferences.  But then the conundrum is why this would look
> > like "Motif" by default, whereas on LC 6.7 and earlier it correctly stays
> > as "Windows 95"
> >
> > Incidentally, do you find that clicking the "native theme" on the View
> menu
> > has any effect, i.e if you choose "Motif", then after that choose "Native
> > Theme", does it display the appropriate appearance for your platform?
> When
> > I try this on 6.7 and 7.0.1, it changes nothing.
> >
> > Bernard
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:47 PM, Mike Bonner <bonnmike at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Reading up on some stuff. You might check to make sure that windows
> > itself
> > > doesn't have a stuck proxy setting (not likely, since you'd notice it
> > > elsewhere, but worth a check) because liburl will use the windows
> setting
> > > of it isn't set specifically with code.  At least it's something to
> > > eliminate.  Might also (if you didn't) confirm that "the platform" does
> > > indeed return win32 to eliminate that also.  I haven't yet found where
> > the
> > > "lookandfeel" is stored if at all, doesn't look like it is so far,
> hence
> > my
> > > re-asking about the platform. I looked at what the menu selection does,
> > and
> > > it appears that all it does is "set the lookandfeel to ..whatever" but
> > > there could be a setprop somewhere that I haven't found yet.
> > >
> > > Worst case (I know its a pain) setup a plugin that sets the lookandfeel
> > to
> > > "appearance manager" as well as setting the proxy to empty.
> > >
> > > Another silly thought, but.. this is windows.  Have you restarted
> lately?
> > > About out of ideas, but i'll keep poking around and maybe get lucky.
> > >
> > >
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