SQLite, Unicode & LC

Kay C Lan lan.kc.macmail at gmail.com
Wed Apr 9 23:28:29 EDT 2014

On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Devin Asay <devin_asay at byu.edu> wrote:

> Yep, that's the way to do it for now.
> OK, well that solved my current problem but isn't a solution.

Pete said:

1) Exports from iTunes and gets a word like eÜjûzëiÇoò [hope it displays
with all the accents] with all the accented chars as garbage.
2) I don't know how those displayed for him in a LC variable or field.
3) He imports that data into SQLite and gets those same carbage chars.
4) He used unidecode(uniencode()) to convert the garbage and display
correctly in SQLite Management software

In my case, when I orginally wrote my script (6.1.x) I never used any
uniencode or unidecode:

1) Exported a file and a word like eÜjûzëiÇoò appeared exactly like that in
a BBEdit text file that reported it as UTF8 and Unix CRs.
2) Put it in a LC variable and field and it looked exactly the same.
3) Imported into SQLite UTF8 db and the word looked exactly the same.
4) When I SELECTED the record and displayed it a LC field it looked exactly
the same.

NOW, since updating to LC 6.6.1GM (which has updated SQLite)

1) In SQLite original records with accented words look correct.
2) When I SELECT I have to use the mentioned unidecode(uniencode()) to
display correctly.

BUT NOW in 6.6.1GM if I

1) Take a BBEdit UTF8 Unix CRs text file with the word eÜjûzëiÇoò
2) Put it in an LC variable or field it still looks correct
3) Import it into SQLite without any uniencode and/or unidecode it looks
like this e j z i o  --blank where accented chars should be
4) When I SELECT the record and display it in an LC variable or field
without using uniencode and/or decode it displays correctly.
5) So the only problem here is it doesn't display correctly in SQLite

6) On the other hand if I employ unidecode(uniencode()) I get this in the
db: ejzio
7) When I SELECT the record and display it in LC I get ejzio with or
without using unidecode(uniencode()) or worse if I use any combination of
uniencode or unidecode.

So Pete reported accents incorrectly displaying in his text file, and he
can correct those by employing unidecode(uniencode()) to look fine in

I on the other hand have correctly displayed accents in text files, but
can't get those to appear in SQLite correctly using your suggested solution.

In the long term, unless LC 7.x stuffs things up further, for me the
simplest solution seems to be to ignore unicode all together, just import
it into SQLite, and not look at it using an SQLite Manager software, if I
need to look at it I'll simply extract the data using LC or I notice that
if I Export the data to a UTF8 Text file all the accents appear correctly.

The problem to me seems to revolve around what happened when LC 6.6.x
upgraded SQLite, which now seems to prevent my SQLite Management software
(tried 3) from correctly displaying accents when it obviously still can.

I'm on OS X 10.9.2, LC 6.6.1GM

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