"Introducing New LiveCode Licenses"

Mark Schonewille m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com
Mon Oct 28 21:00:04 CET 2013


Hi Richmond,

I kind of agree that Heather seems to suggest that the $20 license and 
the open source license are similar, but she doesn't actually say so. 
She only says that product A was replaced with product B.

I do think, though, that RunRev needs to bring back the option of 
licensing single platforms or another way to acquire a low-budget 
license, such as PayG. RunRev seems to think that only companies need 
licenses, but hobby developers have a need for (single-platform) 
licenses too and they don't have a big budget.

I have an ongoing survey at http://qery.us/40u and the results very 
clearly show that a vast majority of RunRev users who are willing to 
invest a little money consists of hobby programmers and not companies: 
44% of the respondents are hobby programmers and only 14% use LiveCode 
as the main tool to make a living; 20% are software developer but don't 
use LC (as the main tool or at all), 11% didn't indicate whether they 
use LC and the remaining 11% are teachers and students.

RunRev is at risk of losing customers because hobby programmers want to 
be able to release a commercial app once in a while and there are less 
expensive alternative options for this.

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On 10/28/2013 20:09, Richmond wrote:
> On 10/28/2013 07:38 PM, Heather Laine wrote:
>> We replaced it with the free, open source edition.
>
> A free, open source edition is NOT in any way whatsoever the same or the
> equivalent of a $20 a month
> commercial licence, and it is slightly disingenuous to suggest they
> might in some way be equivalent.
>
> One offers the ability to produce close source work which other people
> will find hard to steal, while the other produces open source work that
> is up for grabs for anybody who wants it.
>
> Why not say this sort of thing?
>
> The $20 a month wasn't bringing in the sort of moolah we need, so what
> we did was dump it, and you can either go for the open source solution
> (with the concommitent risks involved if you decide to try to make money
> out of your open source offerings) or stump up a rather larger sum for
> the, undoubted, benefits you will get from the commercial version.
>
> Also, RunRev may have got wind of sneaky characters like myself, who
> would work on a bit of software as long as they liked on the community
> version until it were "just right" and then pay ONLY $20 for a month's
> go with the commercial version to pump out a code-protected standalone.
>
> Now, if that is the case, I cannot but agree with RunRev; they were
> leaving themselves wide open to abuse.
>
>>
>> Great to hear you're giving a talk, we'd love to hear how that goes!
>> Please do feel free to email support at runrev.com if there is some way
>> we can assist either with materials or license options.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Heather
>>
>> On 28 Oct 2013, at 17:11, Rick Harrison wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> What ever happened to the $20 per month pay as you go commercial
>>> license?
>>>
>>> I have to give a talk about LiveCode to a bunch of developers this
>>> coming week, and that was an attractive license for them to get started.
>>> Is that gone now?
>
> Hey, want to hear a very old story about the chap who gave with one hand
> while taking away with the other?
>
> Or, put another way: you cannot keep all the people happy all the time.
>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
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>> Heather Laine
>> Customer Services Manager
>> http://www.livecode.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Richmond.
>
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