"Be This Guy"

Ray ray at linkit.com
Sat Oct 12 14:56:59 EDT 2013


I don't know Richmond - I kind of disagree with you, albeit respectfully 
so.  You've apparently taken some time to write down your concerns here 
and that's to be respected.  I'd just create a junk mail filter and be 
done with it.

Actually, I'd kind of like to see the masses get into scripting more.  
I've always found it fascinating and I don't view myself as a brain at 
all.  I don't even know what the word prognathous means :-)

Best wishes and please stay with the community as it changes along with 
the relentless passage of time.

Ray Horsley
LinkIt! Software

On 10/12/2013 2:49 PM, Richmond wrote:
> Why do I feel that RunRev have been scraping the barrel recently?
>
> I wonder if the, unintended, result of their open source initiative is 
> that their income has
> dropped considerably; hence the rather childish adverts.
>
> My e-mail inboxes (I have 2 e-mail addresses that are personal and one 
> for my Devawriter)
> seem to get at least one RunRev advert a day, and, as such, I don't 
> mind that.
>
> But there is something I don't like; the implication of these adverts 
> seems to be that any old moron
> can write computer programs ; something that is palpably not true. And 
> my ego feels bruised by
> the corollary that if any old moron can write computer programs with 
> Livecode then I must be any old moron (and I'm not; I'm a special type 
> of moron in a category of my own).
>
> Certainly that "BE THIS GUY" (Who would you rather be? and the answer 
> is 'anybody else') advert does not
> do RunRev many favours; it comes out of the British 'dumb everything 
> down to the stage where its just simply insulting' school of thought 
> that seems to be pretty well all pervasive throughout the British Isles.
>
> This started with the slightly prognathous girl on the new RunRev 
> website who is spacing out with her
> mall-rat friends (Scottish valley girls; the open sewer that runs 
> between Edinburgh and Glasgow, starting
> with Westerhailes [heroin capital of the world] and moving through 
> Hamilton [Buckfast tonic wine capital
> of the world]; 2 national disgraces and social bombsites whichever way 
> you look at them) and has moved slowly down-market from there ("'down 
> market' from Westerhailes" I hear you ask; well, I did see somebody 
> injecting themselves with heroin in a carpark right smackdown by the 
> river Tay in Dundee in 2003; so, if one thinks about parts of Lochee 
> and Hilltown, it is just about possible).
>
> As somebody who has learnt about 9 programming languages (and most of 
> the people on the RunRev use-list will better me there), I am well 
> aware that learning to program is NOT for any old moron, and to imply so
> with "Tracy Beaker on Speed" types of adverts is disingenuous insofar 
> as it gives any moronic programmer wannabees out there a distinctly 
> wrong impression, and it will drive away more intelligent and 
> motivated typoes towards programming languages/IDEs/packages that 
> don't promote themselves through kiddy-crap.
>
> The whole thing reminds me of a Steve Martin film called "The Jerk", 
> where, at one point, Steve Martin, playing the epynomous lead 
> character, is drinking some multicolored cocktail out of a glass with 
> a paper umbrella in
> it, and pointing at an advert the same cocktail saying "be somebody".
>
> "With 8 x 1 hour long lessons and a 1 hour 1-1 Skype Session and a 
> Live Q&A Session every week you could produce the #1 selling app."
>
> Possibly; but not if you are a person who wants to "be somebody" in 
> the way the advert presents things.
>
> RunRev produce a fantastic product; a product that can produce simple 
> Powerpoint-like slideshows to incredibly complicated stuff (my 
> Devawriter being about 25% along that line); so advertising Livecode like
> this is just doing RunRev a disservice.
>
> ------
>
> Jump on me.
>
> Agree.
>
> Disagree.
>
> BUT; Please, don't keep quiet.  I do feel that as parts of what RunRev 
> choose to call a 'community' and
> like to tell us that we have some sort of say and input on what their 
> company does, we should voice our opinions in this respect (as well as 
> all the others).
>
> ------
>
> Richmond.
>
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