Mark Schonewille m.schonewille at
Thu Nov 7 06:47:58 EST 2013

Hi Mark,

Of course I have heard of packet sniffers. However, if two people decide 
to make a direct connection between two computers, using one direct 
cable, they might as well ask their friend what is going through the 
cable instead of using a packet sniffer :-)

Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

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On 11/7/2013 12:27, Mark Wilcox wrote:
> Mark Schonewille <m.schonewille at> wrote:
>>> If one would always use a direct connection without any proxies and servers, one wouldn't need the https protocol.
> No. Haven't you ever heard of a packet sniffer? If you expand your statement to mean that packets go direct from one computer to another without passing through any other devices at all then it's closer to true but we'd need every computer in the world to have a physical wire connecting it to every other one and trust that no-one ever tampered with those wires. This is just absurd which is why it's such a big deal that the NSA has broken SSL and hence HTTPS.
> In the real world the internet only works because our data packets can be delivered to their destination down multiple routes through several intermediate devices.
> I wasn't aware of this lack of CONNECT before this thread - considering many major internet services have switched to HTTPS only in the last few years I'm surprised it hasn't been a big problem.
> Mark
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