Michael Hatch hatchfactory at
Fri Mar 8 14:25:38 EST 2013

I for one applaud Montes efforts in increasing the web presence of
Livecode. :-)

   I believe it is of upmost importance that programmers of other languages
see that Livecode is serious business and a viable tool and option.
Increasing the popularity, image and the amount of users is in all
Livecoders best interests.

   If you Livecode for work it increases the security of your personal
investment. If your a hobbyist, then more users = better livecode, more
documentation, more community examples, demand for better features etc.
etc. Apple's Hypercard was a great tool with incredible potential. Towards
the end of it's life Apple couldn't communicate the vision "everyone can
and should program (not just for an elitist group of buddies)" or maybe
they had their sights set elsewhere.

    It seems that RunRev has the right idea currently and the source going
open is "opening" :-) the flood gates to many new users - who - will need
help from experienced mentors, tutorials and examples. Experienced users
should be active answering in the forum, and it is a great place to find
answers. StackOverflow isn't a replacement for the official forum but SO
viewers or Google searchers will see replies and say "Oh, I didn't know
Livecode could do that."

On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Andrew Kluthe <andrew at> wrote:

> 90 percent of the issues I am trying to search and fix in other programming
> languages end up being found on StackOverflow. I am not a big user there,
> but it seems that it is quickly becoming the most popular help forum
> directed at developers of all kinds. I think the attempt is to get the
> development industry at large to notice livecode by making sure there is a
> presence there.
> Andrew
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Marek Niesiobedzki <nm at> wrote:
> > Hi Monte,
> >
> > Maybe I don't understand something, so sorry in that case.
> >
> > Please explain in which is StackOverflow better than our forums or
> > use-livecode list? Why should we make next place to ask and look for
> > answers? I tried to visit StackOverflow links you posted and only
> > experience is that StackOverflow service is:
> > - ugly,
> > - difficult to navigate and find any info
> > - full of advertisements
> >
> > I prefer, as opposite experience I have, to still use our forums as well
> > organised, clear of what is not needed and interesting for visitors.
> > Specially the most useful is possibility to quick find unread messages
> and
> > treads. It's my favourite tool to contact with other LC users and I don't
> > need anything else. Also searching in old content is quick and effective
> > there.
> >
> > Little less comfortable in use are raw user lists, but still much better
> > than colourful but not readable StackOverflow.
> >
> > So if there is not any more reasons than just fashion, I don't want to
> > vote or use it. Why to change what is well working if new solution is not
> > better?
> >
> > Marek
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> Andrew Kluthe
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