LiveCode and WebSockets

[Phil Davis]

On 7/8/13 11:51 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote:
>>> However, we don't have proper sockets support on mobile (without
> externals at least)
>
> I am mainly interested in desktop apps at the moment simply because we are
> doing most of our mobile apps as mobile web apps.
>
> However, this will change likely in the next few years if we were to see
> sockets and UI (resolution independence, etc) improvements on mobile.
>
>
>>> and websockets are very definitely not the same thing as standard sockets.
> I am having a hard time just finding straight forward info on the lower
> level websocket information. As of right now all the information I am
> finding is how to use websockets within this framework or that framework
> and nothing really about the differences between websockets and standard
> sockets.

Hi Andrew,

Maybe this will help some:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebSocket

Phil Davis

>
> Also, socket programming in general (and in livecode) is new to me because
> up until now I have wrote most of my applications using http interfaces.
> Not having a non-blocking http client is really getting in the way of some
> of the things I want to do with livecode and I really would like realtime
> notifications, broadcasting, etc.
>
> Would you care to discuss the difference between websockets and the sockets
> we work with in livecode or point me to some basic information on the
> websocket implementation you think we could implement in pure livecode?
> What things would keep it from working very efficiently?
>
> Thanks for taking the time to respond,
>
> Andrew
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Mark Wilcox <m_p_wilcox at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> We know, I'm interested in websockets for realtime comms between apps.
>> Right now I think it'd be possible to implement one or more of the
>> supported transports for socket.io in pure LiveCode but maybe not very
>> efficiently. An alternative would be to wrap existing native
>> implementations as externals. I've not looked into it in any great depth as
>> I'm basically waiting for the engine refactoring to be completed before
>> trying to hook new stuff in.
>>
>> Pierre Sahores <sc at sahores-conseil.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The HTTP(S) REST architecture is full supported on any LC desktop or
>> mobile platform, iOS and Android included. They can be set to act as
>> clients of any kind of nTier server side application (LC-Server, PHP, RoR,
>> etc...).
>>> Le 8 juil. 2013 à 18:19, Mark Wilcox a écrit :
>>>
>>>> I'm interested in using something like socket.io as part of a backend
>> for mobile (and maybe also desktop) apps.  However, we don't have proper
>> sockets support on mobile (without externals at least) and websockets are
>> very definitely not the same thing as standard sockets.
>>>> What do you have in mind?  I'm certainly interested in discussing it.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Andrew Kluthe <andrew at ctech.me>
>>>> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, 8 July 2013, 16:05
>>>> Subject: LiveCode and WebSockets
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have been learning a little bit about websockets lately for a project
>> and
>>>> I have never really played around with livecode's socket communication
>>>> methods. This makes me curious.
>>>>
>>>> Is there anyone else on the list that might be more familiar with both
>> that
>>>> would be interested in discussing using something like socket.io as
>> part of
>>>> a backend for livecode desktop applications?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Andrew Kluthe
>>>> andrew at ctech.me
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>>>
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