On 09/07/2013, at 8:12 AM, Thomas McGrath III <mcgrath3 at mac.com> wrote: > put the number of groups of group "MainGroup" into tGroups If you are using LC 6.1 you can iterate the childControlIDs of group "MainGroup" -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - software development services mergExt - There's an external for that!