Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

Peter Bogdanoff bogdanoff at me.com
Fri Feb 1 18:22:12 EST 2013


Hi,

What I don't quite understand is the physical difference between a commercially-licensed and an open source-licensed RunRev application.

Is the first just like it is presently, but the second is....?

Or the LiveCode application has two versions...?

Peter
UCLA

On Feb 1, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Peter Haworth <pete at lcsql.com> wrote:

> Thanks Monte.  I guess I was thinking of new features rather than bug
> fixes, e.g some sort of new control.  But I guess the principal is the same.
> 
> As you say, it will be interesting to see how all this unfolds.
> 
> 
> Pete
> lcSQL Software <http://www.lcsql.com>
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Monte Goulding
> <monte at sweattechnologies.com>wrote:
> 
>> I believe the intention is to have a rewards for contributors to the
>> engine. Points that go towards commercial licenses. That's just a bonus
>> though. I think what's most likely to happen is something like this:
>> 
>> RunRev will do most feature development
>> A developer hits a bug when working on an app
>> If they know C++ then they might try and fix it. If not they might report
>> it.
>> If RunRev are too slow and it's a blocker the developer could pay someone
>> to fix it and submit to RunRev.
>> 
>> I'm still waiting for RunRev's response on the last point relating to how
>> the Enterprise license fits in here. For example, if I could own the
>> enterprise license and fix a bug for someone then send a pull request
>> against the GPL repo and build for people with commercial licenses there
>> could be some work there but I don't know how the restrictions apply. Do my
>> clients also need enterprise to release with the modified engine. Am I
>> permitted to distribute LC with a modified engine. Perhaps RunRev would
>> like to keep this kind of quick turnaround paid bug fixing service for
>> themselves which is entirely in their rights to do and might be a good
>> business decision for them.
>> 
>> One interesting idea for RunRev would be for them to allow Enterprise
>> license holders to name their C++ developer. It's a single seat license but
>> perhaps its reasonable (seeing as C++ knowledge is rare around here) that
>> the source access could be given to a third party thereby enabling only
>> distribution of the modified engine between the C++ dev and the Enterprise
>> license holder. I guess this could be done using the extra seat which I
>> think is going to be $2500. So perhaps if someone wants me to be their C++
>> dev on engine work they need to buy enterprise then buy me a seat on their
>> license??? Not sure how it's all going to work but I do know there's lots
>> of new possibilities that will come out of all of this so it's going to be
>> fun working it all out.
>> 
>> On 02/02/2013, at 8:06 AM, Peter Haworth <pete at lcsql.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> OK, makes some kind of sense.
>>> Pete
>>> lcSQL Software <http://www.lcsql.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Mark Schonewille <
>>> m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Pete,
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah, you're missing the point, kind of. Everyone who contributes can
>> also
>>>> use all contributions by everyone else and when you contribute, you
>> make it
>>>> more attractive to others to cntribute too. That's the reward of
>>>> open-source software and there is no reason for any additional
>> compensation.
>> 
>> --
>> Monte Goulding
>> 
>> M E R Goulding - software development services
>> mergExt - There's an external for that!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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