Raspberry PI

[Andre Garzia]

Folks,

When I said "it can't be done", I meant "You can't deploy LiveCode apps on
the Pi". Meaning since we don't have an engine for ARM Linux, currently is
impossible to develop for raspberry pi using LiveCode. Building a LiveCode
ARM Engine is surely doable since we already have an Android one but this
is something for RunRev to do and the community can't do anything about it.

Now, if we want to be practical and propose RunRev with a plan that is
doable then instead of requesting an LiveCode ARM Engine, we should request
a LiveCode Server for ARM Linux. The server engine does not require X11 or
the other graphical shenanigans that are different from distro to distro. A
small Raspberry Pi or Sheevaplug makes a wonderful tiny server and being
able to run LiveCode Server in it would be a fantastical thing. Also it is
easier for them to recompile LiveCode Server than to recompile and port all
the graphical stuff.

It is not about what we want (hey I want LiveCode for Haiku and webOS but I
will never have it), it is about what is easy enough for them to do and
still earn money. The ARM machines market is small, 300k Rasp Pi is not a
sizable market when they are not all running the same distro. I think a
server engine would be better.

=)

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Richard Gaskin
<ambassador at fourthworld.com>wrote:

> Skip wrote:
>
>> Has anybody got LiveCode running on a Raspberry PI yet?  The worlds
>> cheapest computer combined with a powerful, simple programming
>> language with both companies having a mission for programming and
>> education..... Seems like a perfect fit unless I am missing
>> something....
>>
>
> At this time the Raspberry Pi ships with only 256MB RAM,
> and to keep costs down they use a version of ARM so old that not even
> Ubuntu can run on it.
>
> So while it's theoretically possible for RunRev to make an ARM compile of
> their Linux IDE engine, the scope of things one can do withing such limits
> would be very narrow at best.
>
> If Intel comes through on their claims of being able to beat ARM with an
> x86 implementation that's both more powerful and consumes less power than
> ARMs best by 2014 or earlier, all bets are off.
>
> If this happens the impact on small computing will be unpredictably
> immense.  Considering that only Apple has committed to a completely
> bifurcated ecosystem (x86 on the desktop with ARM on mobile), while Linux
> and Windows are betting on meeting increased form factor diversity through
> a single OS that scales and adapts to the devices it runs on, the ubiquity
> of x86 across all devices will be at least disruptive, possibly
> accelerating what some believe will be an inevitable move by Apple to
> integrate iOS and OS X into a single OS within the next few years.
>
> But all that's down the road, and it remains to be seen if Intel can pull
> it off.
>
> In the meantime, I've been looking into small-form-factor computers with
> an emphasis on low-cost, low-power machines to use as dev servers, and have
> begun posting notes about current options for LiveCode developers looking
> for x86 support in such systems:
>
> <http://www.fourthworld.com/**garage/ <http://www.fourthworld.com/garage/>
> >
>
> I currently have only one such system there now with a parts list that
> totals $249.97 (the system we raffled off at RevLive), but for folks with
> more modest needs I've been parting out another couple system which are
> even cheaper; time permitting I'll add those there next week.
>
> --
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