Readability testing

Richmond richmondmathewson at gmail.com
Mon Dec 31 09:25:26 CST 2012


On 12/31/2012 05:23 PM, Mike Bonner wrote:
> Interestingly enough, I just looked a few words up in the dictionary on my
> mac (the built in dict) and it has syllable breaks indicated in all but 1
> case so far.  Also was curious and did some googling. A good answer would
> probably be to find a dictionary that has most words done, snip the info,
> and build a lookup table.

Well said that man!

>
>
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Richmond <richmondmathewson at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On 12/31/2012 03:51 PM, Mike Bonner wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.howmanysyllables.**com/howtocountsyllables.html<http://www.howmanysyllables.com/howtocountsyllables.html> A starting point
>>> for syllable counting perhaps.
>>>
>> Certainly a start . . .
>>
>> But how a computer would:
>>
>> "Usually divide before a single consonant.
>> o/pen, i/tem, e/vil, re/port.
>> The only exceptions are those times when the first syllable has an obvious
>> short sound, as in "cab/in"."
>>
>> be able to work out when a vowel is pronounced as "an obvious short sound"
>> or not escapes me.
>>
>> The "problem" about all languages is that they are never written
>> phonetically (with the possible exception of
>> language written in the IPA, which bravely attempts to represent each
>> sound with a single symbol - of course
>> once one gets into supra-segmentalism one is in a hell only enjoyed by
>> really 'kinky' linguists) and, as such,
>> a computer cannot do that sort of thing as it is incapable of making a
>> subjective judgement call . . .
>>
>> . . . arguably what will always prevent computers being able to imitate
>> human reasoning completely is
>> just that; a computer cannot ascribe subjective value (good, bad) to
>> something.
>>
>> It would be interesting to know how the Java mages worked out how to count
>> syllables, and how accurate that is.
>>
>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Richmond <richmondmathewson at gmail.com>**
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Here's a whole new can of worms:
>>>> http://www.editcentral.com/****gwt1/EditCentral.html<http://www.editcentral.com/**gwt1/EditCentral.html>
>>>> <http://**www.editcentral.com/gwt1/**EditCentral.html<http://www.editcentral.com/gwt1/EditCentral.html>
>>>> "wordCount is the number of words in the text.
>>>> sentenceCount is the number of sentences in the text.
>>>> syllableCount is the number of syllables in the text.
>>>> letterNumberCount is the number of letters and numbers in the text.
>>>> complexCount is the number of words of three or more syllables in the
>>>> text."
>>>>
>>>> the necessary formula for all the different readibility methods are
>>>> given,
>>>> in Java, on the webpage,
>>>> but they presuppose wordCount, snetenceCount and so on.
>>>>
>>>> Now, while one can effect a wordCount with no problem at all in Livecode,
>>>>
>>>> and one can effect a sentenceCount by looking at strings ending in . ! ?
>>>>
>>>> and one can effect letterCount.
>>>>
>>>> I am completely unsure how one would manage a syllableCount.
>>>>
>>>> Something to chew over as we go into the New Year!
>>>>
>>>> Richmond.
>>>>
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