Mobile sockets crowd funding opportunity

Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150811 at m-r-d.de
Mon Dec 10 10:59:49 EST 2012


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Am 10.12.2012 um 16:50 schrieb Mike Kerner <MikeKerner at roadrunner.com>:

> Just in case anybody over here was leery of being an early in, we're in.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Monte Goulding
> <monte at sweattechnologies.com>wrote:
> 
>> Hi LiveCoders
>> 
>> A number of LiveCode developers need sockets on iOS and android. The
>> subject of developing an external for this feature came up recently on the
>> LiveCode Developer Program list. It was proposed by a number of developers
>> that the external would be a good candidate for crowd funding. As part of
>> the discussions RunRev was asked for comment and we were given permission
>> to publish the reply:
>> 
>> "I would go ahead and develop this if you receive the funding. We are not
>> working on mobile sockets as a feature at the moment and it may be some
>> time before we can commit resources to it." Ben Beaumont (LiveCode Product
>> Manager)
>> 
>> The current situation for sockets is a TCP client is able to be
>> implemented on iOS using the rresocket external that is available in the
>> iOS Externals SDK. This external is implemented using NSStream and won't
>> port to android when the android external sdk is published.
>> 
>> The proposal is to implement a sockets external in portable C++ code based
>> on the boost.asio library in the hope that once the android external sdk is
>> released it would port with minimal changes. The expectation is that $1000
>> to $1500 of funding will be sufficient to implement the bulk of the
>> external, however, to ensure we are implementing the highest priority
>> features first the external would be implemented in the following order:
>> - UDP client
>> - TCP server
>> - UDP server
>> - TCP client (last because of the availability of rresocket)
>> 
>> mergExt is about implementing features the LiveCode community needs when
>> you need them. Some comments from members of the LiveCode Developer Program
>> about why this external is worthwhile finding:
>> 
>> "Currently, mobile network actions are severely limited by the lack of a
>> socket library.  There is no way, for instance, to send mail without using
>> the built-in mail app, even though having the user have a chance to read a
>> system message and mess it up is not desirable.
>> 
>> We have an application where we would like to be able to communicate with
>> a network-enabled appliance.  it does not have bluetooth, and it does not
>> use a standard http protocol, so without a network stack/sockets, I am
>> dead-in-the-water." Mike Kerner (R. M. Kerner Co.)
>> 
>> "I will definitely take part on the funding. I think socket support is an
>> essential feature for LiveCode Mobile." Matthias Rebbe
>> 
>> "I'm In." Ralph DiMola (Evergreen Information Services)
>> 
>> "Mine included there are at least three votes. Anyone else?" Ralf Bitter
>> (author of revIgniter)
>> 
>> "Please add my vote to this." Pierre Sahores
>> 
>> "I am sure there are a number of people that would like to help fund a
>> sockets external.  I for one would be more than happy to dive in should you
>> decide to look for funders for this external.  I have a feeling this
>> external will reach the funding value very quickly." Mark Talluto (Canela
>> Software)
>> 
>> There are 3 choices for funding. All options come with the access to the
>> pre-release versions and the final version for iOS. Each level of funding
>> gives you access to special discount rates on the mergExt store for the
>> next 3 months. All funders (unless they don't want to) will be thanked for
>> their generous contribution in the documentation under their funding level.
>> 
>> - Bronze: $80 funding and 10% off
>> - Silver: $160 funding and 20% off
>> - Gold: $240 funding and 30% off
>> 
>> Please note that as the android externals sdk is currently an unknown
>> variable there can be no guarantee that more funding will not be required
>> when it's released. It is, however, the intention that the external be
>> implemented so that it should cross compile for android. It is also not
>> possible at this stage to estimate a date for an android version to be
>> provided.
>> 
>> After 90 days if the project has not met it's target the funders will be
>> offered credit at the mergExt store to the value of their funding.
>> 
>> To get involved go to http://mergext.com/fund/sockets
>> 
>> For anyone interested in the progress of the Game Center crowd funding
>> effort the external will be be released shortly and funders are currently
>> making use of it to implement a number of games. The external is still open
>> to funding to cover turn based matches and matchmaking.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> --
>> Monte Goulding
>> 
>> M E R Goulding - software development services
>> mergExt - There's an external for that!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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