Having fits with the menu bar

John Dixon dixonja at hotmail.co.uk
Sat Mar 12 17:47:29 EST 2011


How different do you want to change the menus ?... and really why ?... Apple's HIG have served dvelopers well over the years, users know just what to expect from an application and know where to go when they want to perform 'everyday' application functions like 'Open, New, Close' and 'Cut, Copy, Paste', for example. Microsoft on the other hand has let developers do what they want and look at the mess it sometimes causes...

But on the other hand, if you insist  on being a total non-conformist and confusing your user you can... I have just created a stack and using the menu builder made the menus .... "AppName', 'Wassock' and 'Pooh', instead of 'LiveCode', 'File' and 'Edit'...

John Dixon

> Subject: Re: Having fits with the menu bar
> From: bobs at twft.com
> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:30:51 -0800
> To: use-livecode at lists.runrev.com
> 
> I think the question is, would the OS actually allow it? It may not. I remember years ago, while working with FoxPro for the mac, that because Microsoft wanted to have compete control over their menu structure, their menus were not actually "menus" at all. Because of that, any utilities that did custom menu modifications would not work with FoxPro. QuicKeys comes to mind. I was not able to create an action involving menus, because there were no "Menu's" per se. 
> 
> Something to chew on I guess. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Mar 12, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
> 
> > I almost replied on this topic a couple of days ago when there was another user confused by this.
> > 
> > I do agree that the way Livecode arranges menus for the Mac is standard behavior for OSX according to Apple's Human Interface Guidelines.  My problem with what Livecode does is that "standard" and "guidelines" mean just that, by which I mean that Livecode should provide a way to do non-standard things that don't conform to the guidelines if that's what I want to do.  It's fine to use the guidelines as a default but there should be a way to not take the default and I don't think LiveCode provides one.
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