AW: OT: On-Rev antispam (& reCAPTCHA)

Tiemo Hollmann TB toolbook at kestner.de
Mon Mar 7 11:34:42 EST 2011


Hi Björnke,

the business with email harvesting and nasty links are of those business
models I know. But just entering a stupid (probably not working) email
address into my newsletter database or entering senseless entries (without
links) in blogs or guest books - I can't see any sense. Are these
"collateral damages" of their bots or do you see any model of value they
take out of these entries?
Tiemo

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-
> bounces at lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Björnke von Gierke
> Gesendet: Montag, 7. März 2011 15:39
> An: How to use LiveCode
> Betreff: Re: OT: On-Rev antispam (& reCAPTCHA)
> 
> They make a lot of money. Normally there's some url hidden in the crap,
and if
> people go there they make 2 cents from google adverts. If they spam 2
million
> per day, and the turnaround is 0.1 percent, then they get a good income.
> Sometimes they also harvest email replies, and working email addresses can
> also be sold to other spammers and scammers for about 5-10 cent per piece.
> 
> 
> 
> On 7 Mar 2011, at 12:05, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > what I would like to know is what intention do have bots (the humans
behind
> > the bots) to make useless entries into  blogs or - in my case - in
signing
> > on to get a newsletter with non existent nonsense email addresses. The
only
> > sense in that behavior I can think of is that there must be any kind of
> > forms where robots _do_ have any advantage from and all the other
entries
> > (like in my newsletter) are just "collateral damages"
> > But up to now I couldn't imagine any sense behind that and couldn't find
> > anyone who could tell me. But I am sure you can!
> > Tiemo
> >
> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-
> >> bounces at lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Keith Clarke
> >> Gesendet: Sonntag, 6. März 2011 21:39
> >> An: How to use LiveCode
> >> Betreff: Re: On-Rev antispam (& reCAPTCHA)
> >>
> >> ...I concur, what great ideas:
> >> a) language-independent, random simple maths questions that humans need
to
> >> understand;
> >> b) deliberate hidden password field to capture bots;
> >> c) obscure names for login fields to confuse bots;
> >> d) simple validation repeat fields.
> >>
> >> I've learned so much about programming and logic from the creative
bunch
> > of
> >> people on this list!
> >> Best,
> >> Keith..
> >>
> >> On 6 Mar 2011, at 13:54, Medard wrote:
> >>
> >>> Medard <liste.revo at medard.on-rev.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> What are your thoughts about that?
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for all your responses!
> >>>
> >>> Me too, i dislike Captchas, and I am glad of your suggestions!
> >>>
> >>> Medard
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> lectures.medard.on-rev.com
> >>>
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