[OT ??] OpenXION

Pierre Sahores psahores at free.fr
Tue Jun 21 01:42:31 EDT 2011

Went not Dr Scott Raney the mainly sole developer too of a very impressive MC platform before ? Rebecca Bettencourt seems both very able, ambitious and humble. Here is the report of a recent exchange i had with her and i hope that along or after its university studies, she will get time to provide to our xtalk community its own purpose  for cgi tasks. If this can happen, i'm very confident that the benefits will goes to both OpenXION and LC-Server. In my mind, LC-Server will need to rely on some serious challenger to get a chance to become a more visible and well accepted professional xtalk standard. In this way, i expect that both RunRev and all of our sweet LC dev community should stay tuned and be handy with Rebecca if she need some help from us to build and improve its C/C++ based CLI OpenXION open source xtalk.

>> Hi Pierre,
>> It will still be a while before I even start writing OpenXION 2.0, but
>> I think it would be cool if you could use XION to build web apps, so
>> I'll certainly put 'Apache module' on my list.
>> Thanks for writing,
>> Rebecca Bettencourt
>> Kreative Software
>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:05 AM, Pierre Sahores <sc at sahores-conseil.com> wrote:
>>> Dear Rebecca Bettencourt,
>>> I just discovered your Openxion amazing initiative and i will closely follow the progress of your project. Are you expecting to deliver an Apache module along the C++ based version of your Openxion 2.0 for coming pre-announced version ?
>>> Thanks again for your initiative !
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> --
>>> Pierre Sahores

Kind regards,


Le 21 juin 2011 à 02:26, Björnke von Gierke a écrit :

> Sure,  xion might not be much. But it could be an easy way to use on the server side, if the person making it wants to go that direction. Sure it's a one person project, and probably never going to be a replacement for livecode. But then, maybe it picks up, and that would be a benefit for Livecode too.
> On 21 Jun 2011, at 00:37, Paul Dupuis wrote:
>> On 6/20/2011 6:10 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
>>> On 06/21/2011 12:25 AM, Paul Dupuis wrote:
>>>> On 6/20/2011 3:25 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/openxion/
>>>>> "XION is an xTalk language similar to the ones used by HyperCard, SuperCard, and Runtime Revolution."
>>>> I'd like to know if RunRev has any involvement with this Open Source initiative or what their take on it is?
>>> No, I'm sure they haven't.
>>> OpenXION seems very odd indeed insofar as it is an xTalk dialect WITHOUT the objects and
>>> the stacks on which those objects reside.
>>> Rebecca Bettencourt [who has a long track record with this type of thing] seems to be the driving force
>>> behind it; whether it will go the same way as her TileStack remains to be seen.
>> Okay, from Richard's reply and yours, I can see that OpenXION is nothing I need to pay attention to. I feel compelled to mention why I was interested though.
>> As a company that develops our entire product line in LiveCode, I readily acknowledge we gain many many benefits from doing so - cross-platform deployment, rapid application development, etc. etc. - over using a traditional language like C++. One disadvantage though using almost any proprietary development system is if something happened to the vendor (RunRev). Now, for the record, I find that highly unlikely given current trends. I very much admire RunRev's accomplishments and growth over the last couple of years and consider it a very well managed company likely to be around for a long time. But I would be irresponsible to my own company, if I did not at least take note of developments which might lessen that tiny tiny risk, such as xTalk having a common, open "standard' like C++. Had XION, which I was unfamiliar with, turned out to be a broader initiative to settle on an open standard for xTalk, it would have been something worth following.
>> Thanks for the replies.
>> -- 
>> Paul Dupuis
>> Cofounder
>> Researchware, Inc.
>> http://www.researchware.com/
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