[OT] Apple at it again

Peter Haworth pete at mollysrevenge.com
Wed Feb 16 00:32:38 CST 2011


Well said.  Apple's behavior in recent months has been ridiculous.   If Microsoft tried anything remotely close to this, the Apple lovers would be in an uproar.  This isn't just Amazon, it also applies to newspapers and periodicals who offer subscriptions for online reading of their publications through apps.  No company has a right to tell another company what price they can sell their product for and what outlets they must sell them through.

I'm a big fan of Apple hardware and software but they are becoming dictatorial. I won't use an iPhone or an iPad because of Apple's attitude.  I prefer to use an Android phone and am anxiously awaiting the release of Android tablets, to say nothing of the release of a version of LC that supports Android.

Pete Haworth
On Feb 15, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:

> Colin, if you read the article I referred to, the key issue is the
> part that reads,,
> 
> '"Apple does require that if a publisher chooses to sell a digital
> subscription separately outside of the app, that same subscription
> offer must be made available, at the same price or less, to customers
> who wish to subscribe from within the app," Apple's statement read.'
> 
> Most know Amazon (or for that matter any other mature channel presence
> company) does not have in it's business proformas an extra 30% profit
> on every item sold, to send to Apple. Furthermore, Kindle fulfillments
> are delivered from Amazon's own servers, and I'm sure the buying
> habits, nor privacy details of their customers are not something they
> wish to share with Apple or any other third party.
> 
> Furthermore, Apples states in the article,
> 
> "Publishers and content sellers must remove any links within their
> apps to outside-the-App Store purchasing options, Apple said, a
> requirement that means Amazon.com must eliminate the link to the
> Kindle Store that it currently provides in its iPhone, iPod Touch and
> iPad apps."
> 
> So combine that with the REQUIREMENT they allow for in-app purchases,
> and it appears the decision is already made for Amazon. Please tell me
> where you think I am off base.
> 
> My guess is we'll see some back pedaling b Apple on all this very
> soon. They'll call it "a clarification."
> 
> Hmmm. I wonder how Groupon or other companies like them who use an
> iPad app to sell their services will fare?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, February 15, 2011, Colin Holgate <coiin at verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>> On Feb 15, 2011, at 9:51 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:
>> 
>>> I suspect Kindle will have to be dropped from the iPad and iPhone. I'm
>>> sure Amazon doesn't have 30% in royalties to cough up to Apple for
>>> books sold.
>> 
>> 
>> That's not good logic. For one thing, people are making fortunes off their 70%, and I'm sure Amazon don't making more of a fortune. Also, the 30% applies to subscribers that Apple acquired for the publisher, not ones that the publisher brought to the app. Here's what the deal is supposed to be,:
>> 
>> "“Our philosophy is simple—when Apple brings a new subscriber to the app, Apple earns a 30 percent share; when the publisher brings an existing or new subscriber to the app, the publisher keeps 100 percent and Apple earns nothing,” said Steve Jobs, Apple’s CEO. “All we require is that, if a publisher is making a subscription offer outside of the app, the same (or better) offer be made inside the app, so that customers can easily subscribe with one-click right in the app."
>> 
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