[announcement: WideStep saas web applications builder/publisher : was Fwd: LC --> Website ?]

Sat Aug 27 06:00:18 EDT 2011

Tim,

Fell free to try out the <http://www.widestep.fr> proposal (still in beta). The main goal of this LC-driven saas is to provide to anyone a way to build and publish web applications in using semantic commands instead of having to program them from scratch.

In other words, the proposal is to use a client side LC standalone to store the job logics of your web app on the server-side, inside SQL tables for further direct calls by the publishing LC application server.

Let me know if it can works the way you expect and don't hesitate to ask for help if needed.

Best,

Pierre

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> De : Timothy Miller <gandalf at doctorTimothyMiller.com>
> Date : 27 août 2011 07:12:19 HAEC
> À : How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
> Objet : Rép : LC --> Website ?
> Répondre à : How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
> 
> Thanks, Chipp,
> 
> I was misinformed. Well, to tell the truth, I made a semi-psychotic inference. It is too bad. It would simplify my life. Yes, it would be cool.
> 
> My website is a bit too complex for a self-serve website builder. I understand drag and drop web-building apps tend to make really messy code.
> 
> I'll have to find another way.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> On Aug 26, 2011, at 9:13 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:
> 
>> Hi Timothy,
>> 
>> The simple answer to your question is, nope. You can't just design your website on cards and have it convert to a website-- wouldn't that be cool if you could!
>> 
>> Websites are typically created from HTML, CSS, and sometimes serverside scripting which helps fill in the dynamic portions of the website. Sometimes database calls also need to be made as well.
>> 
>> You can use LC for the serverside scripting, but you'll still need to do the HTML and CSS for the look and feel for your website. If this is all a bit complicated, you may want to try some of the self serve website builders available out there. Many of them require no previous knowledge of HTML, CSS, or scripting whatsoever
>> 
>> Chipp Walters
>> CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc
>> 
>> On Aug 26, 2011, at 8:54 PM, Timothy Miller <gandalf at doctorTimothyMiller.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Kee,
>>> 
>>> I probably don't understand your reply. You overestimated my intelligence ;-)
>>> 
>>> Maybe it's LiveCode Server I want to know about.
>>> 
>>> I don't know how to set up and maintain my own server. Probably a bad idea to try to learn. Will others do this for me for a fee?
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Kee Nethery wrote:
>>> 
>>>> There is a stack from Andre that is a web server. You can hit it with a get or a post and it will process whatever you have scripted and then return a result. I run in on a port other than 80 because I don't want to disable Apache (remember it is it's own web server). The big disadvantage is that it is one user at a time. Command comes in and gets replied to before the next command can come in and get processed. The big advantage is that I can run it in the IDE and step through the code. 
>>>> 
>>>> I'm attempting to learn LiveCode Server specifically because it is more like a "normal" CGI. The commands come into Apache and Apache handles the juggling of all the connections. More mainstream, more industrial, but way less documentation and examples.
>>>> 
>>>> Kee Nethery
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 26, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Timothy Miller wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a vague notion that it's possible to write LC stacks in such a way that they function as websites. If I'm not mistaken, one or more Internet Service Providers support this functionality. I think there's a name for it, but I can't remember.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is this true?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've got a shabby looking professional website I put together using a primitive HTML editor in some ancient version of HTML. It needs upgrading.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I do know how to use LiveCode moderately well. Without much effort, I could make a LiveCode stack that would look and act in the way I want my website to look and act. I suppose it might be possible to make it all shiny like a WordPress template, though I don't know how at the moment.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is it really so easy as that? Is it reasonable to suppose that this is the simplest and most cost-effective way for me to upgrade my website?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've looked at alternatives -- professional website designers, WordPress templates, drag and drop software. All present problems.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What does hosting cost? Any important limitations or gotchas? What are the chances the LiveCode method will still be supported five years from now?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Where do I learn more?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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