[OT] Flash is NOT Dead

Andre Garzia andre at andregarzia.com
Tue Aug 2 18:07:27 EDT 2011


I personally think that flash is a great way to make web games... it has a
huge market penetration and looks like javascript...

:-)



On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Chipp Walters <chipp at altuit.com> wrote:

> Sorry to spoil the celebration, but Flash still has a strong role to play
> on the Internet, albeit not with iOS. Google has graciously given Apple a
> huge head start in the tablet wars, but to call them 'over' would be as
> silly as saying Flash is dead. I seem to recall reading recently that over
> 70% of online videos are compiled with Flash.
>
> I know it was a pleasant surprise when I clicked on a link on my new
> Android Tablet and it went to a website and played the header Flash
> animation, instead of showing a blank div.
>
> Up until recently, Android tablets could no way compete with iPads. That's
> now changing. Just as those who cried "Apple is dead," there will be others
> shouting from the peanut galleries about Flash being doomed.
>
> How ironic to be having this discussion in an LC forum where we all only
> wish we could have one tenth the market penetration of Flash.
>
> Chipp Walters
> CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc
>
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 11:12 AM, "Lynn Fredricks" <
> lfredricks at proactive-intl.com> wrote:
>
> >> It would appear Flash is dead or certainly critically ill.
> >> Happened much quicker than even I expected.
> >>
> >> http://www.telecomtv.com/comspace_newsDetail.aspx?n=47914&id=e
> >> 9381817-0593-417a-8639-c4c53e2a2a10
> >>
> >> And all those people who thought banning Flash would be the
> >> end of Apple, and that it was stifling competition. I can't
> >> count the number of people who've told me they 'must have'
> >> Flash so I've said 'don't buy an iPhone/iPad', but they still
> >> did. Maybe that's why Adobe gave up so quickly, even they saw
> >> the people who wanted Flash weren't prepared to support it?
> >
> > Hey Kay - wow, that site has an annoying pop up. If you don't want to
> join,
> > that pop up doesn't go away and won't let you read the article.
> >
> > Adobe putting out an HTML 5 animation product doesn't mean anything about
> > winning or losing. They are, very wisely, putting out a tool because web
> > interactivity is a market where they already have a strong foothold. Not
> > doing anything is worse. If Adobe can sell you yet another product, it is
> a
> > win - and they have a huge user base to sell to.  There are some other
> HTML
> > 5 products out there already, but its in Adobe's interest that you buy
> from
> > Adobe instead of them. These companies groom sets of customers to sell
> more
> > stuff to, and if you fall outside of that target customer profile, they
> > really don't care.
> >
> > Adobe hasn't given up on Flash at all - they are spending time on
> > developments which can still differentiate Flash from what you can
> achieve
> > with HTML 5, such as Molehill:
> >
> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplatformruntimes/features/stage3d.ht
> > ml.
> >
> > Blocking Flash from iOS has hurt Apple (a little) because its given the
> > Android phone and tablet market a gift, but you are right - so many
> people
> > do not care. The details of the arguments surrounding Apple's walled
> garden
> > strategy, on top of other developer focused weirdness we've all
> experienced
> > at one time or the othe working with Apple, is just static noise to your
> > average iPhone user.
> >
> > One thing you can bank on is that people are more than willing to not
> look
> > beyond the most immediate and self gratifying. I mean, how else can you
> > explain the success of strategies that "reward" you with a sort of
> average
> > discount for 12 months, but still charge you a much higher price for the
> > remainder of a 36 month contract (ie cable companies...)?
> >
> > I see two companies with very smart people coming up with very far
> reaching
> > strategies. Very interesting times we live in.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Lynn Fredricks
> > President
> > Paradigma Software
> > http://www.paradigmasoft.com
> >
> > Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server
> >
> >
> >
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