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[Jerry Daniels]

Apple does not restrict your viewing of the web content. It does restrict web plugins that it believes will eat up battery and processor.

Rodeo is a tool to help you create web pages that work like apps in an iPad web browser. Any browser in the App store can view those pages. No plugin is used. The pages are generated by the Rodeo server.

Apple does care how web pages are made. Will never care as long as something like Flash or revPlugin is not used, because they operate locally, on the device. Rodeo's secret sauce is all on the server.   

Best,

Jerry Daniels

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On May 9, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Peter Alcibiades <palcibiades-first at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> 
> Rene, this is the text in question:-
> 
> 3.3.1 — Applications may only use Documented APIs in the manner prescribed
> by Apple and must not use or call any private APIs. Applications must be
> originally written in Objective-C, C, C++, or JavaScript as executed by the
> iPhone OS WebKit engine, and only code written in C, C++, and Objective-C
> may compile and directly link against the Documented APIs (e.g.,
> Applications that link to Documented APIs through an intermediary
> translation or compatibility layer or tool are prohibited).
> 
> It may be difficult linguistically for non-native speakers, but to a native
> speaker this is (mostly) clear and unambiguous.  What it says is, your
> application
> 
> -- must be originally written in the specified languages.  This is perhaps
> not totally precise, but it is going to allow you to sketch out your ideas
> on paper in whatever you want, to do flow charts in whatever you want, but
> it is not going to allow you to code in anything but the languages specified
> and then translate into them.  Things are 'originally written' in, for
> instance, French, when this was the first version of the novel that was
> written.  Translations into English are not originally written in English. 
> It may seem hard to define exactly, but its clear to most people what does
> and does not count as originally written.
> 
> -- in particular, with regard to Javascript, it is not just any sort of
> javascript, it is only allowed to write originally in "Javascript "as
> executed by the iPhone OS WebKit engine".   This means, your original
> writing if in JS must be in this particular flavor of it.
> 
> -- It next says that you may not compile and link against the documented
> APIs from anything but C, C++ and Objective-C.  That is perfectly clear and
> unambiguous.  You may not arrive at the code in these languages from any
> method but originally writing in them.  Having got your code, you may
> compile and link if and only if it is written in the approved languages.
> 
> In short, do not write originally in anything but the approved languages,
> and if you do, do not compile and link against the APIs.
> 
> -- It finally says that "Applications that link to Documented APIs through
> an intermediary translation or compatibility layer or tool are prohibited". 
> Now, this is a for example, so it is not exhaustive.  But what it is telling
> you is that you cannot use an intermediary translation tool.  You cannot do
> what you are trying to do.  
> 
> What's the bottom line?  You can write your C or C++ using whatever you
> want.  Eclipse or notepad, they do not care.  But you will write C or C++ in
> the editor or IDE of your choice.  You will not write revtalk or anything
> else, and have that translate into C.  
> 
> The sentence is not perfectly clear in one respect, its not clear whether
> compatibility qualifies tool, as well as layer.  It could mean that you may
> not use a compatibility layer or a compatibility tool to link to the APIs,
> or it could be meant more widely, that you may not use a compatibility layer
> or any kind of tool, not restricted to compatibility tools, to link to the
> APIs.  It makes no practical difference either way though.
> 
> Whatever, if you want to comply with the developer contract, this is
> perfectly clear.  It says you need to fire up your brain and start coding
> either in:-
> 
> -- C
> 
> -- C++
> 
> -- Objective C
> 
> -- Javascript as executed by the iPhone OS Webkit engine.
> 
> There is really no doubt about what this means.  As to whether its
> enforceable, the answer is, in the short to medium term, undoubtedly. 
> Because there is an enforcement mechanism, they don't have to let your app
> into the App store, and they don't have to give a reason for refusal.  So
> mere suspicion that you have done it in the wrong language and translated
> it, will get your app barred.  And they are not interested, they simply do
> not care, if they ban some apps incorrectly.  There is nothing you can do
> about it.  They do not even have to tell you what their reason was.
> 
> The only people who will change this will be the courts and the competition
> regulators in the US.  By the time they get around to it, and by the time a
> settlement is worked out, if they overturn it, and by the time the
> boundaries of that settlement are fixed, it will be too late for you as an
> iPhone developer.
> 
> You have to understand that finding some way around the wording does not
> help at all.  Even if you were to find one, which you won't, you will just
> get banned anyway for finding a way around and using it.
> 
> You want to develop for iPhone OS as a business, you now have two and only
> two practical choices.  One, get busy on C or iPhone Java.    Two, develop
> webapps as in Rodeo.  The safest is probably flavors of C.  The quickest is
> probably Rodeo.  Save time, and accept it.
> -- 
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