Regarding Rodeo discussions
jerry.daniels at me.com
Sun Jul 25 23:30:52 EDT 2010
Robert, et al.,
A Couple Observations
1. Rodeo posts often quickly become non-Rodeo posts
One of the more interesting aspects of the Rodeo posts of late is that a great deal of them are often not about Rodeo, but other topics that just get tagged onto a Rodeo-titled thread. Therefore, I think a greater impression of "Rodeo posts" gets created.
Today a post about Rodeo video spawned many posts about ScreenFlow. The same happened earlier in the weekend where a few posts were about Rodeo and 10 times as many ended up covering Mac vs. PC, different VM's people could use...you see my point.
2. Posts that come from genuine enthusiasm are beneficial
As was pointed out earlier, the Rodeo team only post significant announcements here, which actually tend to spawn very few posts, actually. (Btw, we make 10 times as many announcements on our own discussion list.)
Whereas non-team folks post questions, observations, enthusiasm, criticism, etc. as independent threads--to which Sarah and I respond--DO generate lots of posts.
It's actually nice to see folks excited about something. It gets the juices flowing. I should also mention that every post I've seen from anyone has always had the word "Rodeo" quite prominently displayed. I think everyone can read that. It's an easy word to spot.
Rather than take issue with innocent third parties who are enthusing—and on some days dominating this list with topics about Rodeo and non-rev products (like JQuery, HTML5, HyperStudio, FileMaker), maybe we should ask ourselves the following...
3. Why aren't there more posts purely about Revolution? Isn't that the real question, here?
Follow the Rodeo discussion:
On Jul 25, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Robert Mann wrote:
> Ok, I did launch one of the latest big thread about rodeo, relaying the
> ending of the beta program.
> I was aware of the tensions that showed up between Jerry's communicative
> enthusiasm and this list and possibly runrev, and I took the move thinking
> there was more pros than cons. It did attract attention and reactions. That
> means it DID interest quite a few people from this list. As you mention, it
> got out of control!
> What does that MEAN? why is it so? Why is it bringing such NRJ around?
> Well, yes! rodeo was thought of as an alternative to revMobile, and yes! it
> will probably offer a good alternative to revLets for wider "grand public"
> use, and again, rodeo grew from revserver and uses revTalk in the scripts.
> So rodeo could well be just a piece of the revTalk puzzle, like dataGrids
> are.. tRev is... and so on.. and have a place here.
> I must say also that I would hate rodeo to evolve too much out of revtalk
> since I beleive the major interest of it is that it sticks to revTalk
> language as much as possible (for another language we have Ruby on rails !!)
> So I personnaly do beleive with my heart and mind, that there is a very
> strong relationship between runrev and rodeo and that this strong
> relationship is positive for all of us here, including runrev.
> The major underlying issue is what is this list for? runrev exclusiveley..
> or all revTalk related subjects?
> One practical solution could be to clearly label topics related to a third
> party products like [rodeo]. I personnaly always label my topic in that way
> and feel it is a good solution to keep that list opened.
> Should not this be an [OT] discussion?? I always wondered what OT means!! If
> somebody knows..
> Robert Mann
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