Scripting what should be a simple loop...

Richmond richmondmathewson at
Sat Jul 10 06:06:06 EDT 2010

On 07/10/2010 12:52 PM, zryip theSlug wrote:
> Richmond, I'm not sure to appreciated your humor.
> However, with less talent and other circumstances, I had probably write
> something similar somewhere in the net, so I forgive you for this time.
> 2010/7/10 Richmond<richmondmathewson at>
>> On 07/10/2010 11:49 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:
>>> David and Mark,
>>> Yet, repeat for each rules. Whether using arrays is faster than using
>>> regular variables depends on whether your repeat loop is written smartly.
>> Quite; but that looks a bit like circular logic.
>> Everytime I have to write some sort of loop I get out the plastic cups and
>> the beads
>> and play with them on the floor (preferably with a cup of coffee and some
>> music)
>> until I find what I would term the most "economical" way of doing things.
>> So; prior to writing anything "smartly" one has to work out the 'smartist'
>> logic;
>> if you are incredibly good at abstractions you can do that mentally; if not
>> you
>> can do it with a pencil and paper, or with cups and beads - whatever works
>> for you. LEGO is also quite effective.
>> Then; having worked out one's model; one has to represent it in code.
>> If one's model has already been worked out (squares and arrows on paper,
>> cups and beads on the floor, circles and lines on a blackboard) visually it
>> is, generally, easier to track where things go wrong with one's code by
>> comparing it with one's physical model.
>> _______________________________________________

That may appear a joke to you!

HOWEVER: I do often play around with beads and cups on the floor; it really
does help me with conceptualising what I am trying to do on a computer.

About 35 years ago, a brilliant Maths master at my school taught us 
without benefit of a computer (our punch cards were sent to Imperial 
College in London
where my cousin Stephen Mathewson: )
organised things. As 13 year old who had never seen a computer, nor had 
a clue about logic
his attempt at getting us to understand flow charts ('How to boil an 
egg' as far as I remember)
was doomed to failure (perhaps because most of us couldn't boil an egg 
to save our lives).

So, this brilliant man, helped us understand with plastic yoghurt pots 
and off-cuts of wood from
the woodwork classroom.

My only regret is that I have no way of knowing where the man we called 
"Bonehead Barker"
is now, or, even, if he is still alive, so that I can send him a little 
something by way of a thank you
for all the help he has given me.

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