From dave.cragg at lacscentre.co.uk Thu Apr 1 02:59:38 2010 From: dave.cragg at lacscentre.co.uk (Dave Cragg) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:59:38 +0100 Subject: The revTalk Song In-Reply-To: <4BB419D2.40909@smpcs.server101.com> References: <20100330212333.09FD7288708@mail.runrev.com> <4BB419D2.40909@smpcs.server101.com> Message-ID: <9537C326-EAB4-4425-A055-CCAA3FD4E6DB@lacscentre.co.uk> On 1 Apr 2010, at 04:58, RunRevPlanet wrote: > What RunRev needs is a song. (The Java guys and gals have more than one, so why don't we?) You can read about why I have written the revTalk song and follow the links to it from here: > > http://www.runrevplanet.com/the-revtalk-song.html > > Hope you like it. It won't compile. I get the following error: compilation error at line 2 (Commands: bad parameter), char 29 Cheers Dave :-) From rene.micout at numericable.com Thu Apr 1 03:15:49 2010 From: rene.micout at numericable.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Micout?=) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:15:49 +0200 Subject: Interesting discussion on iPad content In-Reply-To: References: <1CF97C48-A885-4B49-9C81-89D4A0B068D3@runrev.com> <5A483AA4-3A2B-49FA-A209-AD069EEEB987@earthlink.net> <0D39038F-FF2B-440F-90AD-287033A7C1E0@m-r-d.de> Message-ID: <09429077-E7E9-41BB-BE5E-DC8E427C41BE@numericable.com> In french... but very fun !! ;-) http://www.mac4ever.com/1eravril/ipad_2010/ Bons souvenirs de Paris Ren? From richmondmathewson at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 03:23:18 2010 From: richmondmathewson at gmail.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:23:18 +0300 Subject: OT?: heavy weather near the Runrev office In-Reply-To: References: <90D92CFE-3DFD-4A38-B87D-7910DE05CDF7@azurevision.co.uk> <4BB3450A.9060105@gmail.com> <4BB39534.2060505@hyperactivesw.com> <4BB39717.8070609@gmail.com> <4BB3A113.1090000@gmail.com> <11E75C28-0575-4407-974E-198DF2DCE9D1@twft.com> Message-ID: <4BB449E6.2000004@gmail.com> On 01/04/2010 01:59, Sarah Reichelt wrote: >> if it is really small or has little seeds all over it, then, it is named >> somethingberry >> if it is bigger than somethingberry or has not enough seeds around it, then, >> it is named somthingcherry >> if it is bigger then somethingcherry and you can throw at those silly guys >> that try to rule you, then it is named somethingapple. > This reminds me of a book I had when expecting my first child. I kept > comparing the size of the baby to a citrus fruit. > > "Your baby is now the size of a lime." > "Your baby is now the size of a satsuma." > "Your baby is now the size of a lemon." > "Your baby is now the size of a orange." > "Your baby is now the size of a grapefruit." > > I think after grapefruit they decided it was probably best to stop > dwelling on how big this thing was getting.... > > Cheers, > Sarah > _______________________________________________ My older son weighed in at approx. 5 kg; a Pomelo! "Ugli fruit" is, presumably, reserved for changelings. From psahores at free.fr Thu Apr 1 03:26:03 2010 From: psahores at free.fr (Pierre Sahores) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:26:03 +0200 Subject: The revTalk Song In-Reply-To: <4BB419D2.40909@smpcs.server101.com> References: <20100330212333.09FD7288708@mail.runrev.com> <4BB419D2.40909@smpcs.server101.com> Message-ID: Le 1 avr. 10 ? 05:58, RunRevPlanet a ?crit : > What RunRev needs is a song. (The Java guys and gals have more than > one, so why don't we?) You can read about why I have written the > revTalk song and follow the links to it from here: > > http://www.runrevplanet.com/the-revtalk-song.html > > Hope you like it. ;-) > -- > Scott McDonald > "Components, Stacks, Tools and Resources for Runtime Revolution" > www.runrevplanet.com > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.woooooooords.com www.sahores-conseil.com From palcibiades-first at yahoo.co.uk Thu Apr 1 03:47:24 2010 From: palcibiades-first at yahoo.co.uk (Peter Alcibiades) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:47:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: Print Card is broken in Linux because of resolution dependence In-Reply-To: <4BB391B4.8050300@fourthworld.com> References: <201003311534.02385.palcibiades-first@yahoo.co.uk> <4BB391B4.8050300@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: <1270108044422-1747783.post@n4.nabble.com> Changing the look and feel doesn't seem to do anything much. The colors change fractionally, but with the size of the IDE what it is, its barely noticeable. Its sort of a very limited theme control apparently. It seems to affect highlight colors, but that's about it. Thanks for the dictionary link. Two hours later, thanks to webttrack, we have a copy of the dictionary that will display locally in a browser window. That will certainly help. Can it be drivers? Its hard to see how. It would have to be the identical problem with the drivers in cups-pdf, in the ppd for the Kyocera, and in the drivers for a Konica Minolta hung off a Jetdirect print server. Can't be, can it? It would also have to be some kind of defect in all these drivers that does not affect either graphics editors, text editors or OpenOffice. How can it be that OpenOffice, regardless of screen resolution or distribution its running on, always prints a document in a given font at the same size on paper, if there is some problem with the print dirvers? Surely, for properly written applications, print rendering is independent of screen rendering? The problem with print card is that what is sent to all the different drivers varies with screen resolution. It is what Rev is sending to the print drivers that is the problem. The drivers themselves are working perfectly. I'll have a look at the revPrintField code. My health will not allow any very intense effort on it, though. Is there really no-one in Edinburgh who can look at this stuff? One young healthy competent programmer with the source code to hand should be able to get to the bottom of it in a couple of days, surely? Anyway, last night I started on plan B, rewriting the print parts to remove all use of Rev printing, and ran into the next thing, which is that when you do cut and paste in the IDE editor, it freezes. Or rather, it seems to go into a loop, the cursor sits there flickering and is locked. Then when you close the editor, it crashes the whole IDE, so you lose work since the last save. The only realistic way to work is thus using an external editor, then copy and paste the code into the Rev editor, which I will have a go with today. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Print-Card-is-broken-in-Linux-because-of-resolution-dependence-tp1746852p1747783.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From barryb at libero.it Thu Apr 1 06:31:59 2010 From: barryb at libero.it (barryb at libero.it) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 12:31:59 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Alt plugins Message-ID: <15048905.748321270117919399.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> I am trying to call up an Altplugin to use in my stack. I have been pressing the Alt key on the keyboard all morning but nothing happens! Any ideas? Barry From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Thu Apr 1 06:43:04 2010 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 12:43:04 +0200 Subject: Alt plugins In-Reply-To: <15048905.748321270117919399.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> References: <15048905.748321270117919399.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Message-ID: <0F28CD5E-29E2-4CEA-B191-8E34E641466E@economy-x-talk.com> Hi Barry, I believe you need to press control-alt on Windows or command-option on Mac to make this work :-) -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development projects. Feel free to contact me for a quote. Op 1 apr 2010, om 12:31 heeft barryb at libero.it het volgende geschreven: > I am trying to call up an Altplugin to use in my stack. I have been > pressing > the Alt key on the keyboard all morning but nothing happens! > Any ideas? > Barry From lists at mangomultimedia.com Thu Apr 1 09:23:02 2010 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:23:02 -0400 Subject: DataGrid Forms, checkboxes and Pull-Down buttons In-Reply-To: <0D99001E-6A10-43CB-9872-FAF8867962A9@mac.com> References: <0D99001E-6A10-43CB-9872-FAF8867962A9@mac.com> Message-ID: <9CA62122-DBC6-4B27-8F4A-BEEA2B7D1794@mangomultimedia.com> On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:08 PM, John Patten wrote: > The problem is with my checkbox button. The script I used is: > > Checkbox Button Column Behavior- > getProp dgDataControl > return the long id of me > end dgDataControl > > on mouseDown pMouseBtnNum > dgMouseDown pMouseBtnNum > setDataOfIndex the dgHilitedIndexes of me, the dgColumn of the > target, (the hilited of target) > end mouseDown > > There are two problems. The first is that when I look at the data in > the Data Grid after highlighting the checkbox, the data from the > datagrid reports that the hilite is 'false." If I uncheck the > checkbox, and grab the data again, the Data Grid reports that the > hilite is 'true." It is reversed from what is normal. Use mouseUp rather than mouseDown. On mouseDown the hilite of the checkbox has not been updated yet. > Second problem is that if I click in the column with the check box, > missing the button, I get an error stating that the (column) does > not have that property (assume it means the hilite property). I > attempted to put an: Don't use 'the target', use 'of me'. When you click in the column but not on the checkbox then the target is not a button with a hilited property. Try this: SetDataOfIndex the dgIndex of me, the dgColumn of me, the hilited of button 1 of me If you just want to update the value when the checkbox itself is clicked on then check the target: if word 1 of the target is "button" then SetDataOfIndex the dgIndex of me, the dgColumn of me, the hilite of button 1 of me end if -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Releasable Revolution Resources for Developers: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com From joef1 at mac.com Thu Apr 1 09:32:47 2010 From: joef1 at mac.com (Joe F.) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 09:32:47 -0400 Subject: Data grids in standalones In-Reply-To: References: <42467AE9-79AF-49F8-BD39-6415DBF81E7A@mangomultimedia.com> Message-ID: <3AE2A57F-6F1C-4F4E-BF0E-DC482B344AC4@mac.com> In my case the project was an existing stack with a datatgrid that had already been built as a standalone, copied and changed many times. Then I decided to try the splash/launcher scheme, so the stack and data grid template became substacks of the main. So there is a stack named "Data Grid Template 12xxxxxxx" (whatever number) At one point I noticed that datagrid template stack has a title: Editing template for group "DataGrid 1" of card id 1002 of stack "/ Volumes/Server Stuff/Joe's Stacks/OriginalStackName.rev" The file name and path are both obsolete. Maybe that has something to do with the problem. Joe F. On Mar 31, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: >>>>> Can I tell the standalone builder to include the data grid library >>>>> even if setting inclusions manually? >>>>> Or do I have to un-protect my stack to get this to work. >>>> >>>> Add a Data Grid Templates substack and the standalone builder will >>>> include >>>> the Data Grid library: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://lessons.runrev.com/spaces/lessons/manuals/datagrid/lessons/7339-What-Do-I-Need-to-Do-To-Deploy-a-Standalone-With-A-Data-Grid- >>> >>> Yes, I read this lesson, but the screen shots showed that you had >>> the >>> Standalone Builder searching for inclusions. >>> When I selected the inclusions manually, there was no option to >>> select >>> the Data Grid library and I did not think it was being included. >>> I was having other problems at the time, so I may be wrong on this, >>> but please could you confirm this. >> >> Confirmed. As long as you have a stack that starts with "Data Grid >> Templates >> " then the data grid library is included. My test: > > > Thanks Trevor. > When it failed for me, there must have been another reason. > > Cheers, > Sarah > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From lists at mangomultimedia.com Thu Apr 1 09:35:31 2010 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:35:31 -0400 Subject: Data grids in standalones In-Reply-To: <3AE2A57F-6F1C-4F4E-BF0E-DC482B344AC4@mac.com> References: <42467AE9-79AF-49F8-BD39-6415DBF81E7A@mangomultimedia.com> <3AE2A57F-6F1C-4F4E-BF0E-DC482B344AC4@mac.com> Message-ID: <264899C8-3881-4692-AFCD-77B49AA50668@mangomultimedia.com> On Apr 1, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Joe F. wrote: > In my case the project was an existing stack with a datatgrid that > had already been built as a standalone, copied and changed many times. > Then I decided to try the splash/launcher scheme, so the stack and > data grid template became substacks of the main. > So there is a stack named "Data Grid Template 12xxxxxxx" (whatever > number) Was the "Data Grid Templates XXXXXXXXX" stack a substack of the launcher stack that you built the standalone stack with or a substack of the mainstack that the launcher loaded after startup? > At one point I noticed that datagrid template stack has a title: > Editing template for group "DataGrid 1" of card id 1002 of stack "/ > Volumes/Server Stuff/Joe's Stacks/OriginalStackName.rev" > > The file name and path are both obsolete. Maybe that has something > to do with the problem. I think the IDE just assigns that title when you edit the row template. I don't think that would cause any problems. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Releasable Revolution Resources for Developers: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com From ambassador at fourthworld.com Thu Apr 1 09:58:12 2010 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 06:58:12 -0700 Subject: Print Card is broken in Linux because of resolution dependence Message-ID: <4BB4A674.3040908@fourthworld.com> Peter Alcibiades wrote: > Changing the look and feel doesn't seem to do anything much. The colors > change fractionally, but with the size of the IDE what it is, its barely > noticeable. Its sort of a very limited theme control apparently. It seems > to affect highlight colors, but that's about it. Did you try printing as well? I wouldn't expect using the Motif lookAndFeel to allow Rev to display with resolution-independence; instead, the goal of that exercise was to see if it would bypass Rev's GTK support sufficiently to allow more consistent rendering to the print buffer. > Thanks for the dictionary link. Two hours later, thanks to webttrack, we > have a copy of the dictionary that will display locally in a browser window. > That will certainly help. Nice. Glad that was useful. > Can it be drivers? Its hard to see how. It would have to be the identical > problem with the drivers in cups-pdf, in the ppd for the Kyocera, and in the > drivers for a Konica Minolta hung off a Jetdirect print server. Can't be, > can it? Not likely, but it's hard to say with certainty until you try. With Windows I had similar complaints to Scott Raney back when he owned MetaCard: Me: This only happens with MetaCard! Never with anything else! Raney: Just the same, please check to see if you have the latest print driver. Me: What a waste of time! This is stupid! How can it be the print driver if everything else is printing fine? Raney: MetaCard is very good at exposing bugs in print drivers. I can't speak for how others write their code that uses them. Just check the driver and let me know how it works out. ::: I went away and found that there was a new version of the driver. ::: Later on, I wrote back to him: Me: Okay, it works now. The problem went away. Why? Raney: I don't know because I don't have access to other people's source. I just know that what we do is on spec and generally works as long as the driver itself has no bugs. But most drivers have bugs, and most printer companies issue regular updates to address them. In my experience, updating drivers on Windows has resolved almost all of the printing issues I've ever had, with the remainder being "user errors" in which I forgot to set the formatForPrinting to true and things like that. Whether any of that applies to Linux is hard to say, but it just seems a good diagnostic move to verify that the driver version is the most recent available. All software always has bugs, and that means not only Rev but drivers too. The Linux world has a bit of a reputation for home-grown drivers of greatly varying quality. But beyond the driver itself, the problem may lie with how Rev is interfacing with it. But again, verifying that the driver is the most recent available will help narrow down the source of the issue. It would also have to be some kind of defect in all these drivers > that does not affect either graphics editors, text editors or OpenOffice. > How can it be that OpenOffice, regardless of screen resolution or > distribution its running on, always prints a document in a given font at the > same size on paper, if there is some problem with the print dirvers? > Surely, for properly written applications, print rendering is independent of > screen rendering? Not entirely. After all, why write two routines to do the same thing? While the specific API calls under the hood will be different, I would imagine that much of the internal routines that write to the display buffer are also used to write to the print buffer. A good many other programs use a similar approach to deliver WYSIWYG printing. > I'll have a look at the revPrintField code. My health will not allow any > very intense effort on it, though. Is there really no-one in Edinburgh who > can look at this stuff? "Can"? Probably. "Would like to"? Almost certainly. But "can afford to take time away from so many items on the front burner while so few people are using Linux?" Not likely. This is a common issue in the Linux community at this early stage toward their inevitable domination of the computing world. Within five to ten years it'll be foolish not to give Linux top priority because it'll be on par with Mac OS with each having at least 35% of the market and Windows will have dropped below them, but the Linux world is still learning about evangelism, so the process will take some time. ;) In the meantime a good many apps aren't available on Linux at all just yet, and many of those that are - like Rev - aren't as feature-complete as their Mac and Windows counterparts. We see this with printer manufacturers as well, which is why so many printer drivers in the Linux world are home-grown - the manufacturer simply hasn't delivered one themselves, so the community steps in and makes it happen. And so it is with RevPrintField: it need not be yourself, but we've had a number of FOSS advocates on this list and I'd like to believe that a good many of them would jump on this opportunity to demonstrate the value of being able to enhance code that's been made available to them. > Anyway, last night I started on plan B, rewriting the print parts to remove > all use of Rev printing, and ran into the next thing, which is that when you > do cut and paste in the IDE editor, it freezes. Or rather, it seems to go > into a loop, the cursor sits there flickering and is locked. Then when you > close the editor, it crashes the whole IDE, so you lose work since the last > save. Feel free to drop a report into the RQCC on that, but unfortunately that's not something I can advise on. I wrote my own script editor years ago (I had line numbers half a decade before Rev did ), and have been happily using it and enhancing it ever since, so I can't remember the last time I've even seen Rev's script editor (though when I did I recall it regularly submarining under Rev's tool palette, which seemed odd given how the Rev IDE narrows the windowBoundingRect; oh well, another mystery for another day). -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv From revlist at azurevision.co.uk Thu Apr 1 11:44:43 2010 From: revlist at azurevision.co.uk (Ian Wood) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 16:44:43 +0100 Subject: Ewoks Ahoy! Message-ID: <4F89C209-2ABE-4EFD-8B86-A2AD9B6463B6@azurevision.co.uk> In case you're not subscribed to the newsletter: http://www.runrev.com/newsletter/april/issue90/newsletter2.php?id=NW0090S15466 Lovely! Ian From bobs at twft.com Thu Apr 1 12:05:20 2010 From: bobs at twft.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:05:20 -0700 Subject: The revTalk Song In-Reply-To: <4BB419D2.40909@smpcs.server101.com> References: <20100330212333.09FD7288708@mail.runrev.com> <4BB419D2.40909@smpcs.server101.com> Message-ID: ooooo-kaaaay. Bob On Mar 31, 2010, at 8:58 PM, RunRevPlanet wrote: > What RunRev needs is a song. (The Java guys and gals have more than one, so why don't we?) You can read about why I have written the revTalk song and follow the links to it from here: > > http://www.runrevplanet.com/the-revtalk-song.html > > Hope you like it. > -- > Scott McDonald > "Components, Stacks, Tools and Resources for Runtime Revolution" > www.runrevplanet.com > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From bobs at twft.com Thu Apr 1 12:12:15 2010 From: bobs at twft.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:12:15 -0700 Subject: Ewoks Ahoy! In-Reply-To: <4F89C209-2ABE-4EFD-8B86-A2AD9B6463B6@azurevision.co.uk> References: <4F89C209-2ABE-4EFD-8B86-A2AD9B6463B6@azurevision.co.uk> Message-ID: <8266561A-8422-44CB-897A-3AF9829EAAE8@twft.com> I LOVE IT! Bob On Apr 1, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Ian Wood wrote: > In case you're not subscribed to the newsletter: > http://www.runrev.com/newsletter/april/issue90/newsletter2.php?id=NW0090S15466 > > Lovely! > > Ian > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From david at dvglasgow.wanadoo.co.uk Thu Apr 1 13:32:34 2010 From: david at dvglasgow.wanadoo.co.uk (David Glasgow) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 18:32:34 +0100 Subject: The RevTalk song In-Reply-To: <20100401170004.8D2F6288AB8@mail.runrev.com> References: <20100401170004.8D2F6288AB8@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: <14B001F9-1AF0-46E2-95E6-AEAC98EBA562@dvglasgow.wanadoo.co.uk> On 1 Apr 2010, at 6:00 pm, Scott McDonald wrote: > What RunRev needs is a song. (The Java guys and gals have more than one, so why don't we?) I thought it was Marc Bolan's Children of the Revolution. Yeah Well you can bump and grind It is good for your mind Well you can twist and shout let it all hang out But you won't fool the children of the revolution No you won't fool the children of the revolution, no no no David Glasgow From rjearp at hotmail.com Thu Apr 1 16:18:17 2010 From: rjearp at hotmail.com (Bob Earp) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:18:17 -0700 Subject: Glass Globe - Kudos Scott !! Message-ID: Many thanks Scott for the Glass Globe demo in RevUp #89. Apart from being the usual very cool looking stuff you produce, it was (once again) and extremely elegant solution. I really appreciate the chance to learn... best, Bob... Bob Earp - Ashford Technologies Inc.White Rock, British Columbia. _________________________________________________________________ Check your Hotmail from your phone. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712957 From scott at tactilemedia.com Thu Apr 1 17:14:24 2010 From: scott at tactilemedia.com (Scott Rossi) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 14:14:24 -0700 Subject: Glass Globe - Kudos Scott !! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7171DD91-F30F-4A6F-B9A1-01CE73E97FCB@tactilemedia.com> Glad you enjoyed the article Bob. I didn't create the technique, but I thought it was interesting enough to share. Thanks for the kind words. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On Apr 1, 2010, at 1:18 PM, Bob Earp wrote: > > Many thanks Scott for the Glass Globe demo in RevUp #89. Apart > from being the usual very cool looking stuff you produce, it was > (once again) and extremely elegant solution. > I really appreciate the chance to learn... > best, Bob... > Bob Earp - Ashford Technologies Inc.White Rock, British Columbia. > _________________________________________________________________ > Check your Hotmail from your phone. > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712957_______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Thu Apr 1 17:24:28 2010 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:24:28 -0500 Subject: Glass Globe - Kudos Scott !! In-Reply-To: <7171DD91-F30F-4A6F-B9A1-01CE73E97FCB@tactilemedia.com> References: <7171DD91-F30F-4A6F-B9A1-01CE73E97FCB@tactilemedia.com> Message-ID: <4BB50F0C.4080102@hyperactivesw.com> Scott Rossi wrote: > Glad you enjoyed the article Bob. I didn't create the technique, but I > thought it was interesting enough to share. Thanks for the kind words. It was gorgeous, like everything you do. But... Today is April Fool's Day. The lead story was about Darth Vader speaking at the RevLive conference, and I am pretty sure that they aren't going to find him, nor any ewoks. And then in your article you say the world is round. Well, now I don't know what to believe... -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com From palcibiades-first at yahoo.co.uk Thu Apr 1 17:46:48 2010 From: palcibiades-first at yahoo.co.uk (Peter Alcibiades) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:46:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Print Card is broken in Linux because of resolution dependence In-Reply-To: <4BB4A674.3040908@fourthworld.com> References: <201003311534.02385.palcibiades-first@yahoo.co.uk> <4BB4A674.3040908@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: <1270158408689-1748632.post@n4.nabble.com> Well, on the driver front, I am running Debian Squeeze. It will have the latest drivers that have found their way into Debian, I don't know what more up to date anyone could need than that. Or even where they would get any more up to date drivers. No-one installs printer drivers on Linux, you just use what's in the distribution. If Rev wants to fix this, and they think its a driver problem, let someone there install Mandriva RC or some other leading edge distro and verify that it makes no difference. I'm the customer. I want to see some sign that someone else is doing some work on this besides me, Richard and Richmond. Someone in Edinburgh. Just to satisfy Richard, I will go in the next couple of days and repeat the experiment with Motif selected. It won't make any difference, but I'll do it. Now, one fundamental point. This is not about Linux. This is not about the profitability of the Linux version, or Linux market share or any of this stuff. This is about Rev as a company. Is it a quality producer or not? If so, it cannot release buggy software with features that do not work, in one of its products. It does not matter whether these products are profitable or not. That is not my problem. Rev decided to release a Linux version. Fix it! Peter -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Print-Card-is-broken-in-Linux-because-of-resolution-dependence-tp1746852p1748632.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From andre at andregarzia.com Thu Apr 1 18:00:32 2010 From: andre at andregarzia.com (Andre Garzia) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 19:00:32 -0300 Subject: Glass Globe - Kudos Scott !! In-Reply-To: <4BB50F0C.4080102@hyperactivesw.com> References: <7171DD91-F30F-4A6F-B9A1-01CE73E97FCB@tactilemedia.com> <4BB50F0C.4080102@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: FANTASTIC!!!!!! :-O I will make a plugin of it to look while I am pondering over the bugs in my code... On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:24 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Scott Rossi wrote: > >> Glad you enjoyed the article Bob. I didn't create the technique, but I >> thought it was interesting enough to share. Thanks for the kind words. >> > > It was gorgeous, like everything you do. But... > > Today is April Fool's Day. The lead story was about Darth Vader speaking at > the RevLive conference, and I am pretty sure that they aren't going to find > him, nor any ewoks. And then in your article you say the world is round. > Well, now I don't know what to believe... > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. From zryip.theslug at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 18:08:43 2010 From: zryip.theslug at gmail.com (zryip theSlug) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 00:08:43 +0200 Subject: Glass Globe - Kudos Scott !! In-Reply-To: References: <7171DD91-F30F-4A6F-B9A1-01CE73E97FCB@tactilemedia.com> <4BB50F0C.4080102@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: Great! I let it turn for the pleasure ;) -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc From josh at dvcreators.net Thu Apr 1 18:19:47 2010 From: josh at dvcreators.net (Josh Mellicker) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 15:19:47 -0700 Subject: [OT] fulltime Rev developer needed Message-ID: <67E9CE6B-24D1-42A7-995D-527807F97532@dvcreators.net> Need to hire a fulltime Rev developer ASAP. Prefer expert in one or more of the following areas: - video - data grid/UI - communicating with external processes but will train the right person. Compensation determined by expertise. Please respond offlist to josh at dvcreators.net From johnpatten at mac.com Thu Apr 1 18:50:24 2010 From: johnpatten at mac.com (John Patten) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:50:24 -0700 Subject: Images, icons and Objects and Data Grid Tables? Message-ID: Hi All... I have a folder full of images that are named with a specific number id. I'm attempting to insert each image based on its name (number id) that is pulled from the pData into the Data Grid Table. These images are not part of the stack, and will be stored in a directory outside of the stack. I can poll the data grid for the correct image id by changing the column object from an image object to a button object and using the column behavior script: set the label of button 1 of me to (pData) ... so I know i have the correct name being reported by the pData data.The result is a the name of the image. I don't appear to be able to set the button icon based on the image path of the image in the folder and there is no way from a script to set the imageSource for an image object via a path (like you can when you open the image properties and select the button folder). If pdata is returning the name of my image correctly, how can I use that to display the image in my DataGrid table? As an image object? As the icon of a button? Thank you! John Patten From gbojsza at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 19:20:25 2010 From: gbojsza at gmail.com (Glen Bojsza) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 16:20:25 -0700 Subject: Rev Video and RTSP streams Message-ID: Hello, I am trying get get Rev Video to view a rtsp stream. In QuickTime I use File--> Open URL and enter rtsp://192.168.0.12:10000/test.sdp and the video starts to play. Has anyone gotten this to work in Rev? thanks, From bobs at twft.com Thu Apr 1 19:57:38 2010 From: bobs at twft.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 16:57:38 -0700 Subject: Glass Globe - Kudos Scott !! In-Reply-To: <4BB50F0C.4080102@hyperactivesw.com> References: <7171DD91-F30F-4A6F-B9A1-01CE73E97FCB@tactilemedia.com> <4BB50F0C.4080102@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: <5E9829A3-552B-4864-A876-9131999FC273@twft.com> The earth IS flat!!! It's our minds that are warped around it. Bob On Apr 1, 2010, at 2:24 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Scott Rossi wrote: >> Glad you enjoyed the article Bob. I didn't create the technique, but I thought it was interesting enough to share. Thanks for the kind words. > > It was gorgeous, like everything you do. But... > > Today is April Fool's Day. The lead story was about Darth Vader speaking at the RevLive conference, and I am pretty sure that they aren't going to find him, nor any ewoks. And then in your article you say the world is round. Well, now I don't know what to believe... > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From dougtechie at tiscali.co.uk Thu Apr 1 20:28:52 2010 From: dougtechie at tiscali.co.uk (Douglas) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 01:28:52 +0100 Subject: Life-cycle of paper clips In-Reply-To: <16752036281.20100330155630@ahsoftware.net> References: <20100228180004.404A628802E@mail.runrev.com> <8CC870F73740950-4760-17F73@webmail-m086.sysops.aol.com> <1641213265.20100301113447@ahsoftware.net> <4B8C18D5.50200@gmail.com> <4BB26BD4.6080509@tiscali.co.uk> <16752036281.20100330155630@ahsoftware.net> Message-ID: <4BB53A44.6070905@tiscali.co.uk> OK guys, I suppose I walked into several of those points. - ouch! (bare feet) On a slightly different note, but strangely connected! - Way back in the last century when I was a lad, I was talking to the Senior Design Engineer for Hoover UK. (The people that make washing machines and vacuum cleaners that also eat socks.) (I don't think they were very keen on the taste.) Anyway, I pointed out to him that the company was spending a very large part of the R&D budget designing customised controllers for each version of their products. I thought it would be better to design one good general purpose programmable microcontroller and just stick a different ROM in for each different product. He got really angry and said that the company stayed at the forefront of technology by designing custom chips "We will never produce anything that could be called "General purpose" " I don't know if he still has a job. Douglas ps. Honest, I am intending to post something that is relevant to using RunRev soon! On 30/03/2010 23:56, Mark Wieder wrote: > Douglas- > > Welcome to the list community... > > Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 2:23:32 PM, you wrote: > > http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_do_all_those_darned_left_socks_keep_going > > >> Douglas . (A first time poster who does the washing and also programs >> in RunRev) >> You do the washing in RunRev? I'm seriously impressed... >> >> From lan.kc.macmail at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 20:32:35 2010 From: lan.kc.macmail at gmail.com (Kay C Lan) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 08:32:35 +0800 Subject: [ANN] revSparkle minimalist web framework for RevServer In-Reply-To: <7c87a2a11003280633x1406d95aua59caf276ba5b6e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c87a2a11003251351m5fec0cfam800788bbb75b67dd@mail.gmail.com> <7c87a2a11003261210t3dd17908j889d89de71500727@mail.gmail.com> <7c87a2a11003280633x1406d95aua59caf276ba5b6e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Andre, Thanks so much, now it all makes perfect sense to the cogs, springs and levers that make up this old brain ;-) On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: > Kay, > > I made a bug if clause in the hello.irev code. > > If clauses execute in order and I had something like: > > if match_get("/:name") then > ... > end if > > before something like > > if match_get("/hi") then > ... > end id > > I've also renamed the folder from hello to helloworld, because people were > mixing the folder with the url being matched. So now, you can try things > like: > > http://andregarzia.com/revspark/demo/helloworld/ > http://andregarzia.com/revspark/demo/helloworld/source > http://andregarzia.com/revspark/demo/helloworld/hello > http://andregarzia.com/revspark/demo/helloworld/hi > http://andregarzia.com/revspark/demo/helloworld/hello/Andre+Garzia > http://andregarzia.com/revspark/demo/helloworld/sum/1/2 > > Cheers > andre > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Kay C Lan >wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Kay C Lan > > wrote: > > > > > Andre, > > > > > > If my name was Hello, I don't get Hello Hello, but I get Hello World. > > > > > > For clarification, if I 'Hello/Hello' I don't get Hello Hello but Hello > > World. > > > > So: > > > > 'hello/hello' doesn't match > > http://andregarzia.com/revspark/demo/hello/hello but matches > > http://andregarzia.com/revspark/demo/hello< > > http://andregarzia.com/revspark/demo/hello/hello> > > > > 'hello/hi' doesn't match > http://andregarzia.com/revspark/demo/hello/hibut > > matches http://andregarzia.com/revspark/demo/hello/hello > > > > Why? > > _______________________________________________ > > use-revolution mailing list > > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > > > > -- > http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From mwieder at ahsoftware.net Thu Apr 1 20:40:46 2010 From: mwieder at ahsoftware.net (Mark Wieder) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 17:40:46 -0700 Subject: Life-cycle of paper clips In-Reply-To: <4BB53A44.6070905@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20100228180004.404A628802E@mail.runrev.com> <8CC870F73740950-4760-17F73@webmail-m086.sysops.aol.com> <1641213265.20100301113447@ahsoftware.net> <4B8C18D5.50200@gmail.com> <4BB26BD4.6080509@tiscali.co.uk> <16752036281.20100330155630@ahsoftware.net> <4BB53A44.6070905@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <178119671703.20100401174046@ahsoftware.net> Douglas- Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:28:52 PM, you wrote: > ps. Honest, I am intending to post something that is relevant to using > RunRev soon! No problem - sounds like you're fitting in just fine... -- -Mark Wieder mwieder at ahsoftware.net From barryb at libero.it Thu Apr 1 20:41:40 2010 From: barryb at libero.it (barryb at libero.it) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 02:41:40 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Altplugins Message-ID: <12226013.810231270168900069.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Thanks for answering Mark but the real question is: how did Altuit get that button on the keyboards in the first place? ;-) Barry From mwieder at ahsoftware.net Thu Apr 1 21:07:11 2010 From: mwieder at ahsoftware.net (Mark Wieder) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 18:07:11 -0700 Subject: Altplugins In-Reply-To: <12226013.810231270168900069.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> References: <12226013.810231270168900069.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Message-ID: <139121256515.20100401180711@ahsoftware.net> barryb- Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:41:40 PM, you wrote: > Thanks for answering Mark but the real question is: how did Altuit get that > button on the keyboards in the first place? ;-) It's all about product placement. I keep pressing the Home key, but it doesn't seem to do any good - I'm still at work. -- -Mark Wieder mwieder at ahsoftware.net From jimaultwins at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 21:29:29 2010 From: jimaultwins at yahoo.com (Jim Ault) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 18:29:29 -0700 Subject: Altplugins In-Reply-To: <12226013.810231270168900069.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> References: <12226013.810231270168900069.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Message-ID: <7947CDB0-09C8-4740-A679-2AA9D45BAACF@yahoo.com> It is actually a slight misspelling. Shoulda' been 4 characters. Jim Ault Las Vegas On Apr 1, 2010, at 5:41 PM, barryb at libero.it wrote: > > Thanks for answering Mark but the real question is: how did Altuit > get that > button on the keyboards in the first place? ;-) > > > Barry From andre at andregarzia.com Fri Apr 2 00:44:31 2010 From: andre at andregarzia.com (Andre Garzia) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 01:44:31 -0300 Subject: [ANN] WeCode Paste: Share your code snippets Message-ID: Hello Folks, A simple 5 minutes web service to our community. Everyone here had those moments when you wanted to share just a single function, or a tiny piece of code? Well, now you can! Introducing WeCode Paste, our tiny little service just for that. http://wecode.org/paste/ Basically if you post some text to the above URL, the server will return a unique url that will display that piece of text, not unlike those url shortning services. A plugin is also provided that will post the contents of the clipboard, so you can just copy your piece of code and press "Paste!", the url will appear in the message box. The plugin is located at: http://wecode.org/paste/wecodepaste.rev.gz This was just a 5 minutes task but I think it is useful. The code for the plugin itself is available at: http://wecode.org/paste/AJJ19J7 Cheers andre -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. From mcgrath3 at mac.com Fri Apr 2 01:08:33 2010 From: mcgrath3 at mac.com (Thomas McGrath III) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 01:08:33 -0400 Subject: [ANN] [OT] First iPad app approved Message-ID: <0890A74D-1907-4637-A217-737FD3F1EC6E@mac.com> This is mostly off topic but while I am waiting for revMobile to become a solid option I was able over the past three and a half weeks to design and build my first iPad application and was approved for inclusion in the grand opening of the iPad Store. The app is a communication software with voice synthesis for people who can not speak. The field which I have been in for almost twenty years is AAC - Alternative Augmented Communication. Typically these systems cost in the thousands but with my new software "My Pad Speaks" and a $499 iPad a user can have a system for under $600 bucks. Now that is a great mix of technology and innovation. My application has space for up to 10,000 words in an easy to use and easy to learn interface. I have included themes of both backgrounds and buttons for end users to customize the system to their personality. This is a fun application with a serious side. "My Pad Speaks" will be unveiled during the grand opening of the iPad store this saturday along with the delivery of the iPad simultaneously in 80 countries. My new website (the old one died) is on my on-rev server and can be found at: http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com/ Except for the voice synthesis part this entire project could have been done in revMobile and would have been easier to do in a shorter period of time. I can't wait for revMobile. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgrath at comcast.net DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com On the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 From andre at andregarzia.com Fri Apr 2 02:22:10 2010 From: andre at andregarzia.com (Andre Garzia) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 03:22:10 -0300 Subject: Glass Globe - Kudos Scott !! In-Reply-To: <5E9829A3-552B-4864-A876-9131999FC273@twft.com> References: <7171DD91-F30F-4A6F-B9A1-01CE73E97FCB@tactilemedia.com> <4BB50F0C.4080102@hyperactivesw.com> <5E9829A3-552B-4864-A876-9131999FC273@twft.com> Message-ID: The Earth is not flat, it is pizza shaped!!! Just like the pizza I had yesterday, it had hills of onions and vegetables, rivers of cheap cheese, lakes of I-don't-even-want-to-know, and if I manage to leave it for a couple more hours on the table, it will be full of inhabitants (ants can jump in here). On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > The earth IS flat!!! It's our minds that are warped around it. > > Bob > > > On Apr 1, 2010, at 2:24 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > > Scott Rossi wrote: > >> Glad you enjoyed the article Bob. I didn't create the technique, but I > thought it was interesting enough to share. Thanks for the kind words. > > > > It was gorgeous, like everything you do. But... > > > > Today is April Fool's Day. The lead story was about Darth Vader speaking > at the RevLive conference, and I am pretty sure that they aren't going to > find him, nor any ewoks. And then in your article you say the world is > round. Well, now I don't know what to believe... > > > > -- > > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com > > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > _______________________________________________ > > use-revolution mailing list > > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. From andre at andregarzia.com Fri Apr 2 03:46:17 2010 From: andre at andregarzia.com (Andre Garzia) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 04:46:17 -0300 Subject: [ANN] WeCode Libraries: An easy way to share code over the network (our rubygem thing) Message-ID: Hello Folks, Its been a productive night in here and I am proud to present WeCode Libraries. I've always been somewhat ashamed that unlike Ruby, Perl, Lisp coders out there, we didn't had some nice and simple way of loading libraries over the network, a central repository like CPAN. Yes we have RevOnline, but it doesn't make it easy or automatic to load a library, so I decided to fill the void. http://wecode.org/libraries WHAT IS THIS THING It is an IDE plugin and a Library in the same stack. As a plugin it allows you to register a library with our system, basically you inform login details, library details (which URL it is located for example), library dependencies and the like. After you add the library, it is instantly available for all other RevTalk developers using this library. As a library it provides two commands. One loads a library and its dependencies over the network, the other command does the exact same thing but also saves it to a file in your HD so that other attempts to load the library will load from HD and not the network. Libraries are saved in a very organized way. The system can handle multiple versions of a library, multiple libraries per author and multiple libraries dependencies. HOW TO USE IT TO LOAD A LIBRARY After putting the WeCode Library stack into use, just do like: wcRequire "soapdog/vobjectlib/1.0" Which will load vObjectLib version 1.0 by SoapDog along with all it's dependencies. If you want to install it to your HD, do like: wcRequireAndInstall "soapdog/vobjectlib/1.0" ATTENTION: WeCode Libraries is not hosting your library, we just record metadata, so when you load a remote library, it gets the URL from where it is available and load from there. Check the lessons on the site. WHERE DO WE GO NOW? Well, the system is pretty usable as it is. I though about bulk adding all the libraries I know of but then, I want each author to do it under their own account, it helps to stay organized. Later I will add a way to browse the library collection using the web. Right now, you need to know what you want to load. The format is always the same, it is username/libraryname/version. This was created on a single night but I think it is a good thing. I'd appreciate feedback. Cheers and Have Fun Andre -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. From psahores at free.fr Fri Apr 2 03:50:08 2010 From: psahores at free.fr (Pierre Sahores) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 09:50:08 +0200 Subject: [ANN] [OT] First iPad app approved In-Reply-To: <0890A74D-1907-4637-A217-737FD3F1EC6E@mac.com> References: <0890A74D-1907-4637-A217-737FD3F1EC6E@mac.com> Message-ID: Congratulations, Tom ! Your technological human care point of view makes a big difference. Great people with great ideas make the world sweeter and you, are one of them. Thanks for this. Kind Regards, Pierre Le 2 avr. 10 ? 07:08, Thomas McGrath III a ?crit : > This is mostly off topic but while I am waiting for revMobile to > become a solid option I was able over the past three and a half > weeks to design and build my first iPad application and was approved > for inclusion in the grand opening of the iPad Store. > > The app is a communication software with voice synthesis for people > who can not speak. The field which I have been in for almost twenty > years is AAC - Alternative Augmented Communication. Typically these > systems cost in the thousands but with my new software "My Pad > Speaks" and a $499 iPad a user can have a system for under $600 > bucks. Now that is a great mix of technology and innovation. My > application has space for up to 10,000 words in an easy to use and > easy to learn interface. I have included themes of both backgrounds > and buttons for end users to customize the system to their > personality. This is a fun application with a serious side. > > "My Pad Speaks" will be unveiled during the grand opening of the > iPad store this saturday along with the delivery of the iPad > simultaneously in 80 countries. > > My new website (the old one died) is on my on-rev server and can be > found at: http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com/ > > Except for the voice synthesis part this entire project could have > been done in revMobile and would have been easier to do in a shorter > period of time. I can't wait for revMobile. > > > > Tom McGrath III > Lazy River Software > http://lazyriver.on-rev.com > 3mcgrath at comcast.net > > DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? > http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com > > On the iTune App Store > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.woooooooords.com www.sahores-conseil.com From joef1 at mac.com Fri Apr 2 04:02:02 2010 From: joef1 at mac.com (Joe F.) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 04:02:02 -0400 Subject: [ANN] WeCode Paste: Share your code snippets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Andre, Cute, but the links on the web page are all wrong. The download is: http://wecode.org/%22wecodepaste.rev.gz/%22 Maybe I'm missing the point but, if the web page was just a plain text file you could use it in a script as an "include" without parsing it. Then you could do: set myVar to URL "http://wecode.org/paste/BF01527" As is now it returns this in HTML: WeCode Paste http://wecode.org/paste/BF01527 if the platform = "MacOS" or the platform "Win32" then put "/" into PathDelimit else put "\" into PathDelimit end if To add code to WeCode Paste, just post your text to http://wecode.org/paste/ (remember the trailing slash) WeCode Paste ? 2010 Andre Alves Garzia var gaJsHost = (("https:" == document.location.protocol) ? "https://ssl." : "http://www."); document.write(unescape("%3Cscript src='" + gaJsHost + "google- analytics.com/ga.js' type='text/javascript'%3E%3C/script%3E")); try { var pageTracker = _gat._getTracker("UA-2032015-5"); pageTracker._trackPageview(); } catch(err) {} On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:44 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > Hello Folks, > > A simple 5 minutes web service to our community. Everyone here had > those > moments when you wanted to share just a single function, or a tiny > piece of > code? Well, now you can! Introducing WeCode Paste, our tiny little > service > just for that. > > http://wecode.org/paste/ > > Basically if you post some text to the above URL, the server will > return a > unique url that will display that piece of text, not unlike those url > shortning services. A plugin is also provided that will post the > contents of > the clipboard, so you can just copy your piece of code and press > "Paste!", > the url will appear in the message box. The plugin is located at: > > http://wecode.org/paste/wecodepaste.rev.gz > > This was just a 5 minutes task but I think it is useful. The code > for the > plugin itself is available at: > > http://wecode.org/paste/AJJ19J7 > > Cheers > andre > > -- > http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From andre at andregarzia.com Fri Apr 2 04:14:05 2010 From: andre at andregarzia.com (Andre Garzia) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 05:14:05 -0300 Subject: [ANN] WeCode Paste: Share your code snippets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Joe, Fixed the broken link, thanks for the heads up. The idea is not to use this programatically, it is just a simple way to show code to someone, for example, instead of pasting a huge piece of code to an email, you can just paste the url here and people can look it up. Since you asked for a plain text solution, I just implemented one for you! While http://wecode.org/paste/BF01527 will give you HTML, http://wecode.org/paste/plain/BF01527 will get you plain text with no decorations. This is intended for human use, like showing pieces of code. If you want to load code remotely check out WeCode Libraries on my other email to the list, or by going to: http://wecode.org/libraries It does all the nice stuff like library loading, installing, dependency handling. Cheers andre On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Joe F. wrote: > Hi Andre, > Cute, but the links on the web page are all wrong. > The download is: http://wecode.org/%22wecodepaste.rev.gz/%22 > > Maybe I'm missing the point but, if the web page was just a plain text file > you could use it in a script as an "include" without parsing it. > Then you could do: > set myVar to URL "http://wecode.org/paste/BF01527" > > As is now it returns this in HTML: > > > WeCode Paste > > > > http://wecode.org/paste/BF01527 > > if the platform = "MacOS" or the platform "Win32" then > put "/" into PathDelimit > else > put "\" into PathDelimit > end if > To add code to WeCode Paste, just post your text to > http://wecode.org/paste/ (remember the trailing slash) > WeCode Paste ? 2010 Andre Alves Garzia var gaJsHost = (("https:" == > document.location.protocol) ? "https://ssl." : "http://www."); > document.write(unescape("%3Cscript src='" + gaJsHost + " > google-analytics.com/ga.js' type='text/javascript'%3E%3C/script%3E")); > try { var pageTracker = _gat._getTracker("UA-2032015-5"); > pageTracker._trackPageview(); } catch(err) {} > > > > > > On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:44 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > > Hello Folks, >> >> A simple 5 minutes web service to our community. Everyone here had those >> moments when you wanted to share just a single function, or a tiny piece >> of >> code? Well, now you can! Introducing WeCode Paste, our tiny little service >> just for that. >> >> http://wecode.org/paste/ >> >> Basically if you post some text to the above URL, the server will return a >> unique url that will display that piece of text, not unlike those url >> shortning services. A plugin is also provided that will post the contents >> of >> the clipboard, so you can just copy your piece of code and press "Paste!", >> the url will appear in the message box. The plugin is located at: >> >> http://wecode.org/paste/wecodepaste.rev.gz >> >> This was just a 5 minutes task but I think it is useful. The code for the >> plugin itself is available at: >> >> http://wecode.org/paste/AJJ19J7 >> >> Cheers >> andre >> >> -- >> http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. >> _______________________________________________ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. From mbertoli at libero.it Fri Apr 2 04:27:32 2010 From: mbertoli at libero.it (Marcello Bertoli) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 10:27:32 +0200 Subject: Cross-Platform encoding issues In-Reply-To: <6CA7750D-A28D-4B2E-AB66-F2396FAA3E58@byu.edu> References: <2B8F277D-C51D-4115-8B29-62D1296D5469@gmail.com> <6CA7750D-A28D-4B2E-AB66-F2396FAA3E58@byu.edu> Message-ID: <731E5AC9-6B1B-4E68-A1F9-9E0ED93EABCF@libero.it> Hi Devin, Thank you very much for your help. I'm working on the same project as Jacopo. The problem is that we need to filter only an occurrence of the euro character, not the whole field. The user can write in many situations the euro character where he wants, as many time he wants. Besides we need to apply the unicode transformation not directly in fields but in variables as we have lots of routines that take the fields values, put them in variables and only after a few transformations write them to the sql database. Is there a way to actually deal with the unicode content of a variable? Thanks in advance Best Marcello On 31/mar/2010, at 22.53, Devin Asay wrote: > Yes, the html entity for the Euro symbol is problematic and inconsistent between mac and windows. But this works on both Mac and Windows (beware word wrap): > > set the unicodeText of fld "test" to uniencode((numToChar(226) & numToChar(130) & numToChar(172)),"utf8") > So as long as you store the characters sequence corresponding to ascii 226, 130, and 172 in your database you should be able to render them successfully. > On Mar 31, 2010, at 6:30 AM, Jacopo Lupi wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm building a cross-platform application based on an postgresql database. >> >> The postgresql database encoding is "utf8". The revclient sets the "client_encoding" of the postgres session to "latin9" and if it is running on mac it translates the data with "mactoiso" or "isotomac" functions. I need to set the postgres "client_encoding" to "latin9" otherwise I can't retrive text with accents correctly on the macplatform. >> >> Everything seems to work fine exept for the euro symbol. I can find no way to type the euro symbol in mac and make it readable under windows and viceversa. From andre at andregarzia.com Fri Apr 2 04:37:56 2010 From: andre at andregarzia.com (Andre Garzia) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 05:37:56 -0300 Subject: [ANN] WeCode Libraries: An easy way to share code over the network (our rubygem thing) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Folks, I've added the list of available libraries... http://wecode.org/libraries Let us use this, makes life easier! Cheers andre On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > Hello Folks, > > Its been a productive night in here and I am proud to present WeCode > Libraries. I've always been somewhat ashamed that unlike Ruby, Perl, Lisp > coders out there, we didn't had some nice and simple way of loading > libraries over the network, a central repository like CPAN. Yes we have > RevOnline, but it doesn't make it easy or automatic to load a library, so I > decided to fill the void. > > http://wecode.org/libraries > > WHAT IS THIS THING > > It is an IDE plugin and a Library in the same stack. As a plugin it allows > you to register a library with our system, basically you inform login > details, library details (which URL it is located for example), library > dependencies and the like. After you add the library, it is instantly > available for all other RevTalk developers using this library. > > As a library it provides two commands. One loads a library and its > dependencies over the network, the other command does the exact same thing > but also saves it to a file in your HD so that other attempts to load the > library will load from HD and not the network. Libraries are saved in a very > organized way. > > The system can handle multiple versions of a library, multiple libraries > per author and multiple libraries dependencies. > > HOW TO USE IT TO LOAD A LIBRARY > > After putting the WeCode Library stack into use, just do like: > > wcRequire "soapdog/vobjectlib/1.0" > > Which will load vObjectLib version 1.0 by SoapDog along with all it's > dependencies. If you want to install it to your HD, do like: > > wcRequireAndInstall "soapdog/vobjectlib/1.0" > > ATTENTION: WeCode Libraries is not hosting your library, we just record > metadata, so when you load a remote library, it gets the URL from where it > is available and load from there. Check the lessons on the site. > > WHERE DO WE GO NOW? > > Well, the system is pretty usable as it is. I though about bulk adding all > the libraries I know of but then, I want each author to do it under their > own account, it helps to stay organized. Later I will add a way to browse > the library collection using the web. Right now, you need to know what you > want to load. The format is always the same, it is > username/libraryname/version. > > This was created on a single night but I think it is a good thing. I'd > appreciate feedback. > > Cheers and Have Fun > Andre > > -- > http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. > -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. From lists at mangomultimedia.com Fri Apr 2 09:01:45 2010 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 09:01:45 -0400 Subject: Images, icons and Objects and Data Grid Tables? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Apr 1, 2010, at 6:50 PM, John Patten wrote: > If pdata is returning the name of my image correctly, how can I use > that to display the image in my DataGrid table? As an image object? > As the icon of a button? I would try using an image object and assign the path to your image on disk. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Releasable Revolution Resources for Developers: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com From ambassador at fourthworld.com Fri Apr 2 09:40:57 2010 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 06:40:57 -0700 Subject: [ANN] [OT] First iPad app approved In-Reply-To: <0890A74D-1907-4637-A217-737FD3F1EC6E@mac.com> References: <0890A74D-1907-4637-A217-737FD3F1EC6E@mac.com> Message-ID: <4BB5F3E9.5030002@fourthworld.com> On 4/1/10 10:08 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: > This is mostly off topic but while I am waiting for revMobile to > become a solid option I was able over the past three and a half > weeks to design and build my first iPad application and was > approved for inclusion in the grand opening of the iPad Store. > > The app is a communication software with voice synthesis for people > who can not speak. The field which I have been in for almost twenty > years is AAC - Alternative Augmented Communication. Typically these > systems cost in the thousands but with my new software "My Pad > Speaks" and a $499 iPad a user can have a system for under $600 > bucks. Now that is a great mix of technology and innovation. My > application has space for up to 10,000 words in an easy to use and > easy to learn interface. I have included themes of both backgrounds > and buttons for end users to customize the system to their > personality. This is a fun application with a serious side. > > "My Pad Speaks" will be unveiled during the grand opening of the iPad > store this saturday along with the delivery of the iPad > simultaneously in 80 countries. > > My new website (the old one died) is on my on-rev server and can be > found at: http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com/ Tom, you've certainly come a long way over the years - congratulations! This is a significant milestone for you, and a great application for the world. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv From joef1 at mac.com Fri Apr 2 09:45:44 2010 From: joef1 at mac.com (Joe F.) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:45:44 -0400 Subject: [ANN] [OT] First iPad app approved In-Reply-To: <0890A74D-1907-4637-A217-737FD3F1EC6E@mac.com> References: <0890A74D-1907-4637-A217-737FD3F1EC6E@mac.com> Message-ID: <477D716E-F78A-40C2-A46A-1FF3136F9A21@mac.com> Congratulations Tom. Not just a frivolous piece of software fluff either; an excellent example of tech that gives something to the world. "Big Button Email" is a good idea too. That was my take on the iPad- a Mac for Granny. If I may suggest another product that fill your niche: a voice package for Rev. I was dismayed to find that the speech command yields passable results on Macs but sounds absolutely awful on Windows. Cheers, Joe F. On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:08 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: > This is mostly off topic but while I am waiting for revMobile to > become a solid option I was able over the past three and a half > weeks to design and build my first iPad application and was approved > for inclusion in the grand opening of the iPad Store. > > The app is a communication software with voice synthesis for people > who can not speak. The field which I have been in for almost twenty > years is AAC - Alternative Augmented Communication. Typically these > systems cost in the thousands but with my new software "My Pad > Speaks" and a $499 iPad a user can have a system for under $600 > bucks. Now that is a great mix of technology and innovation. My > application has space for up to 10,000 words in an easy to use and > easy to learn interface. I have included themes of both backgrounds > and buttons for end users to customize the system to their > personality. This is a fun application with a serious side. > > "My Pad Speaks" will be unveiled during the grand opening of the > iPad store this saturday along with the delivery of the iPad > simultaneously in 80 countries. > > My new website (the old one died) is on my on-rev server and can be > found at: http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com/ > > Except for the voice synthesis part this entire project could have > been done in revMobile and would have been easier to do in a shorter > period of time. I can't wait for revMobile. > > > > Tom McGrath III > Lazy River Software > http://lazyriver.on-rev.com > 3mcgrath at comcast.net > > DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? > http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com > > On the iTune App Store > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From joef1 at mac.com Fri Apr 2 09:47:52 2010 From: joef1 at mac.com (Joe F.) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:47:52 -0400 Subject: [ANN] WeCode Libraries: An easy way to share code over the network (our rubygem thing) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <974E4BDD-1F45-4612-8E53-6DA509FC7A78@mac.com> What do they do? On Apr 2, 2010, at 4:37 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > Folks, > > I've added the list of available libraries... > > http://wecode.org/libraries > > Let us use this, makes life easier! > > Cheers > andre From joef1 at mac.com Fri Apr 2 10:28:45 2010 From: joef1 at mac.com (Joe F.) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:28:45 -0400 Subject: Data grids in standalones In-Reply-To: <264899C8-3881-4692-AFCD-77B49AA50668@mangomultimedia.com> References: <42467AE9-79AF-49F8-BD39-6415DBF81E7A@mangomultimedia.com> <3AE2A57F-6F1C-4F4E-BF0E-DC482B344AC4@mac.com> <264899C8-3881-4692-AFCD-77B49AA50668@mangomultimedia.com> Message-ID: <6F5E3606-09A7-4B59-BE43-50B2C44549AF@mac.com> Originally there was a stack which includes a data grid (with it's templates substack) as well as another substack. That would be compiled as a Windows app and worked fine. I wanted to try making the the whole thing into substacks of a new main stack. Going through about 50 scenarios of letting the standalone builder create the external folder, putting all the stacks on the same level, etc. I got some weird results. In one case the original stack seemed to create a duplicate of its data grid templates xxxxxx. Then I had a scene where the data grid templates stack would remain open after the stack with the data grid was closed and purged. The tutorial shows how to make the library be included when you're starting from a new main stack/substack combo; but an existing stack with data grid has to be taken apart to go into a new main stack (my case), so this probably caused all the confusion. Joe F. On Apr 1, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote: > Was the "Data Grid Templates XXXXXXXXX" stack a substack of the > launcher stack that you built the standalone stack with or a > substack of the mainstack that the launcher loaded after startup? From lists at mangomultimedia.com Fri Apr 2 10:52:31 2010 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 10:52:31 -0400 Subject: Data grids in standalones In-Reply-To: <6F5E3606-09A7-4B59-BE43-50B2C44549AF@mac.com> References: <42467AE9-79AF-49F8-BD39-6415DBF81E7A@mangomultimedia.com> <3AE2A57F-6F1C-4F4E-BF0E-DC482B344AC4@mac.com> <264899C8-3881-4692-AFCD-77B49AA50668@mangomultimedia.com> <6F5E3606-09A7-4B59-BE43-50B2C44549AF@mac.com> Message-ID: <06B22D50-9EB9-40D5-90C2-BDAB73084D2B@mangomultimedia.com> On Apr 2, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Joe F. wrote: > The tutorial shows how to make the library be included when you're > starting from a new main stack/substack combo; but an existing stack > with data grid has to be taken apart to go into a new main stack (my > case), so this probably caused all the confusion. Okay. If you happen to come up with a recipe that causes problems for the standalone let me know and I will add some notes to the lesson. Thanks, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Releasable Revolution Resources for Developers: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com From jeff at siphonophore.com Fri Apr 2 11:38:12 2010 From: jeff at siphonophore.com (Jeff Reynolds) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 11:38:12 -0400 Subject: [ANN] [OT] First iPad app approved In-Reply-To: <20100402134809.E1705288E4E@mail.runrev.com> References: <20100402134809.E1705288E4E@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: <96939F3C-A4BE-4BBD-B750-EE2A4ACAD0BC@siphonophore.com> Kudos Tom! great meeting of ideas, need, and technology! i think you will have a hit on your hands here! Also wonderful to see when an app does something that really makes a big human difference. i hope your app is featured over an ipad face book interface widgit (yeah that improves society, snicker). i see the ipad popping up in all sorts of places that were not thought of at the casual glance. knowing jobs he has had folks dreaming up all sorts of interesting markets for it and is ready to push them in there if someone like tom does not come along and do what he did! i usually dont grab technology when it hits the gates (never quite enough money for the bleeding edge and go for the better bang for the buck at the first rev), but the ipad is calling me, calling me... i must admit i love my itouch way more than i thought i would (and i thought i would love it) so i figure the ipad will be well worth it! besides we can finally walk around like Picard, how cool is that. we just cant toss the data pad on the table yet! i wish rev mobile was w/in my play budgets, but no work in that direction currently so it will have to wait, but i am thinking of how it can enter exhibit presentation! cheers jeff On Apr 2, 2010, at 9:48 AM, use-revolution-request at lists.runrev.com wrote: > his is mostly off topic but while I am waiting for revMobile to > become a solid option I was able over the past three and a half > weeks to design and build my first iPad application and was approved > for inclusion in the grand opening of the iPad Store. > > The app is a communication software with voice synthesis for people > who can not speak. The field which I have been in for almost twenty > years is AAC - Alternative Augmented Communication. Typically these > systems cost in the thousands but with my new software "My Pad > Speaks" and a $499 iPad a user can have a system for under $600 > bucks. Now that is a great mix of technology and innovation. My > application has space for up to 10,000 words in an easy to use and > easy to learn interface. I have included themes of both backgrounds > and buttons for end users to customize the system to their > personality. This is a fun application with a serious side. > > "My Pad Speaks" will be unveiled during the grand opening of the > iPad store this saturday along with the delivery of the iPad > simultaneously in 80 countries. > > My new website (the old one died) is on my on-rev server and can be > found at: http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com/ > > Except for the voice synthesis part this entire project could have > been done in revMobile and would have been easier to do in a shorter > period of time. I can't wait for revMobile. From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Fri Apr 2 11:39:55 2010 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 17:39:55 +0200 Subject: ANN: Clipboard Link In-Reply-To: <4BB20695.3040801@tweedly.net> References: <2674BB46-22B1-4142-9204-EA50C52E7D26@economy-x-talk.com> <4BB20695.3040801@tweedly.net> Message-ID: <6F749228-4118-4030-8F74-4081F0FFF8BE@economy-x-talk.com> Hi Alex and Andre, Many thanks you two for your kind words. Andre, do you miss anything in Clipboard Link, which you had built into your own utility? Yesterday, I finished and released Clipboard Link 1.1 already, which fixes a few small issues. It is available at . -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development projects. Feel free to contact me for a quote. Op 30 mrt 2010, om 16:11 heeft Alex Tweedly het volgende geschreven: > Sounds really interesting Mark. I'll definitely use it. > > But I won't use it for code testing - it's just too easy (for > someone as easily distracted as me) to finish up with slightly > different code on each machine :-( > > I use Dropbox (www.dropbox.com) to automatically sync all my > machines - happens automatically in the time it takes to walk across > the room to the other machine. > > -- Alex. > From bobs at twft.com Fri Apr 2 12:30:15 2010 From: bobs at twft.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 09:30:15 -0700 Subject: [ANN] [OT] First iPad app approved In-Reply-To: <0890A74D-1907-4637-A217-737FD3F1EC6E@mac.com> References: <0890A74D-1907-4637-A217-737FD3F1EC6E@mac.com> Message-ID: THAT'S what I am TALKING ABOUT! Way to go! I have been telling everyone that Apps are what is going to sell the iPad, not the iPad itself. We already have app functionality on the iPhone, but the screen is simply too small and the processor too slow for some things. This is where the iPad can really shine! Make sure you put a "Developed with RunRev for iPad" somewhere in the app. :-) Bob On Apr 1, 2010, at 10:08 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: > This is mostly off topic but while I am waiting for revMobile to become a solid option I was able over the past three and a half weeks to design and build my first iPad application and was approved for inclusion in the grand opening of the iPad Store. > > The app is a communication software with voice synthesis for people who can not speak. The field which I have been in for almost twenty years is AAC - Alternative Augmented Communication. Typically these systems cost in the thousands but with my new software "My Pad Speaks" and a $499 iPad a user can have a system for under $600 bucks. Now that is a great mix of technology and innovation. My application has space for up to 10,000 words in an easy to use and easy to learn interface. I have included themes of both backgrounds and buttons for end users to customize the system to their personality. This is a fun application with a serious side. > > "My Pad Speaks" will be unveiled during the grand opening of the iPad store this saturday along with the delivery of the iPad simultaneously in 80 countries. > > My new website (the old one died) is on my on-rev server and can be found at: http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com/ > > Except for the voice synthesis part this entire project could have been done in revMobile and would have been easier to do in a shorter period of time. I can't wait for revMobile. > > > > Tom McGrath III > Lazy River Software > http://lazyriver.on-rev.com > 3mcgrath at comcast.net > > DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? > http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com > > On the iTune App Store > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From irog at mac.com Fri Apr 2 12:47:23 2010 From: irog at mac.com (Roger Guay) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:47:23 -0700 Subject: Thanks to Scott Rossi Message-ID: I just read Scoot Rossi's article "A Globe, a Glass and Galactic Appeal" in the latest RevUp, and I just have to say how much I enjoyed it! As we have come to expect from Scott, it was cleverly and entertainingly written, and clearly demonstrates some very creative Rev tricks and techniques. Thank you, Scott! So, how many days did it take for you to create the world again? Cheers, Roger From jmyepes at mac.com Fri Apr 2 19:30:07 2010 From: jmyepes at mac.com (JosepM) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 15:30:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [ANN] [OT] First iPad app approved In-Reply-To: <0890A74D-1907-4637-A217-737FD3F1EC6E@mac.com> References: <0890A74D-1907-4637-A217-737FD3F1EC6E@mac.com> Message-ID: <1270251007487-1749758.post@n4.nabble.com> Congratulations Tom! Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/ANN-OT-First-iPad-app-approved-tp1748836p1749758.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From davidocoker at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 07:27:03 2010 From: davidocoker at gmail.com (David Coker) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 06:27:03 -0500 Subject: formatting data in a field Message-ID: Hello folks, I seem to continually get hung up in areas that should be fairly simple by now. Here is the latest that I find myself banging my head over... Lets say that I have two fields calculated where the sum contains something like 3.1666 as an example. What would be the proper way to format the display field as 3.16 ? I've tried using both "format" and "numberFormat" in various ways without any luck so far As always, I certainly appreciate any and all help I get. David C. From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Sat Apr 3 07:30:31 2010 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 13:30:31 +0200 Subject: formatting data in a field In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David, put 3.1666 into mySum //result of your calculation set the numberFormat to "0.00" // you can do this earlier in the script put mySum*1 into fld "Sigh" // calculate to make numberFormat work -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development projects. Feel free to contact me for a quote. Op 3 apr 2010, om 13:27 heeft David Coker het volgende geschreven: > Hello folks, > I seem to continually get hung up in areas that should be fairly > simple by now. > Here is the latest that I find myself banging my head over... > > > Lets say that I have two fields calculated where the sum contains > something like 3.1666 as an example. > What would be the proper way to format the display field as 3.16 ? > > > I've tried using both "format" and "numberFormat" in various ways > without any luck so far > As always, I certainly appreciate any and all help I get. > > David C. From davidocoker at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 07:49:38 2010 From: davidocoker at gmail.com (David Coker) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 06:49:38 -0500 Subject: formatting data in a field In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > David, > > put 3.1666 into mySum //result of your calculation > set the numberFormat to "0.00" // you can do this earlier in the script > put mySum*1 into fld "Sigh" // calculate to make numberFormat work > > -- > Best regards, > > Mark Schonewille ...I could have sworn that I had already tried that, but your example definitely works just as I need it to. Thank you Mark! Best regards, David C. From sarah.reichelt at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 08:31:00 2010 From: sarah.reichelt at gmail.com (Sarah Reichelt) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 22:31:00 +1000 Subject: iPad day Message-ID: So... which of you Americans is getting an iPad today?????? The rest of us just have to wait and see if there are any left-overs after you have all bought millions :-( From rene.micout at numericable.com Sat Apr 3 08:53:24 2010 From: rene.micout at numericable.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Micout?=) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:53:24 +0200 Subject: iPad day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <556CFF0A-DA75-48A0-A6E4-5BCDA2B20023@numericable.com> Hello Sarah, In France > April 24th !!! Bons souvenirs de Paris Ren? Le 3 avr. 2010 ? 14:31, Sarah Reichelt a ?crit : > So... which of you Americans is getting an iPad today?????? > The rest of us just have to wait and see if there are any left-overs > after you have all bought millions :-( From coiin at verizon.net Sat Apr 3 09:18:39 2010 From: coiin at verizon.net (Colin Holgate) Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 09:18:39 -0400 Subject: iPad day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Apr 3, 2010, at 8:31 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: > >So... which of you Americans is getting an iPad today?????? Well, I'm English, but I'm in Brooklyn. So is my iPad, just in a different part of Brooklyn, on a UPS van somewhere. From bill.marcy at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 09:23:01 2010 From: bill.marcy at gmail.com (Bill Marcy) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 09:23:01 -0400 Subject: iPad day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: waiting for the 3g version. Sigh. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > > On Apr 3, 2010, at 8:31 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: > > > >So... which of you Americans is getting an iPad today?????? > > > Well, I'm English, but I'm in Brooklyn. So is my iPad, just in a different > part of Brooklyn, on a UPS van somewhere. > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- ?uo?d? ?? ?o?? ?u?s From mpetrides at earthlink.net Sat Apr 3 09:24:11 2010 From: mpetrides at earthlink.net (Petrides, M.D. Marian) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 08:24:11 -0500 Subject: iPad day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5BE91C8F-B4EE-442E-A074-09452C050C94@earthlink.net> Mine is supposed to arrive today. I'm waiting with bated breath! On Apr 3, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: > So... which of you Americans is getting an iPad today?????? > The rest of us just have to wait and see if there are any left-overs > after you have all bought millions :-( > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From mike at cyber-ny.com Sat Apr 3 09:30:58 2010 From: mike at cyber-ny.com (Mike Brown) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 09:30:58 -0400 Subject: iPad day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5CD704BE-A1E3-4117-A348-B42738160071@cyber-ny.com> Hey Colin, I'm in Brooklyn as well... but regretting I did not pre-order an iPad! I have been on the fence about waiting for the larger G3 iPad coming out a bit later. I probably won't make it though and will end up at the Apple Store buying one when they come in. Watch out for those Brooklyn UPS drivers... If they're too busy, they tend to lob the box at your door from their moving truck! - Mike Mike Brown Cyber-NY Interactive 212-475-2721 Ext. 306 www.cyber-ny.com mike at cyber-ny.com Follow Us On Twitter http://www.twitter.com/cyberny On Apr 3, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > > On Apr 3, 2010, at 8:31 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: > >>> So... which of you Americans is getting an iPad today?????? > > > Well, I'm English, but I'm in Brooklyn. So is my iPad, just in a > different part of Brooklyn, on a UPS van somewhere. > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From coiin at verizon.net Sat Apr 3 09:54:25 2010 From: coiin at verizon.net (Colin Holgate) Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 09:54:25 -0400 Subject: iPad day In-Reply-To: <5CD704BE-A1E3-4117-A348-B42738160071@cyber-ny.com> References: <5CD704BE-A1E3-4117-A348-B42738160071@cyber-ny.com> Message-ID: <22C04A61-AD30-4CCB-9148-53496FD54B41@verizon.net> On Apr 3, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Mike Brown wrote: > >I'm in Brooklyn as well... but regretting I did not pre-order an iPad! I have been on the fence about waiting for the larger G3 iPad coming out a bit later. I have a friend that wants me to develop an iPad app, and so he'll get an iPad for me to do that. So I asked him to get the fully loaded G3 one, which in the long run would be my main iPad. Meanwhile I have other needs for one, but because I'll get the top of the line one later, I was able to order the very minimum one. That'll be fine for now, and when I have two of them I'll just keep the smaller one at work all the time. From jimaultwins at yahoo.com Sat Apr 3 10:13:48 2010 From: jimaultwins at yahoo.com (Jim Ault) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 07:13:48 -0700 Subject: iPad day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Apr 3, 2010, at 5:31 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: > So... which of you Americans is getting an iPad today?????? > The rest of us just have to wait and see if there are any left-overs > after you have all bought millions :-( Well, I will not be buying one yet, but an Aussie took off on a plane 16 hours ago to Los Angeles in order to go to his favorite Apple store, stand in line, and make his purchase. His name is Ed Dale, a very successful internet marketer who believes the iPad is a major game changer for the internet. He is broadcasting his opening and programming of the iPad today as well as using Twitter. It is 7 AM on the West Coast now, so he should start sending tweets in about 3-5 hours There will be a room full of new iPad owners with him discussing which programs are the best to install and use. His approach will be professional, but light hearted. A boat-load of tips and tricks about what is good and bad, while actually using the iPad. Here is how you can follow along live, or just locate the broadcast archive later. Operation iPad is go - How You Can Follow Along! #30dc - http://www.thirtydaychallenge.com/blog .. [PS Before you think he is totally daft, he is in LA to run a conference that starts next week, so he came in a few days early.] Jim Ault Las Vegas From jim at d-film.com Sat Apr 3 10:33:42 2010 From: jim at d-film.com (Jim Kanter) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 10:33:42 -0400 Subject: iPad day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm waiting for the next version, the one that will work properly. Apple usually gets hardware right on the second version and software on the third. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Jim Ault wrote: > > On Apr 3, 2010, at 5:31 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: > >> So... which of you Americans is getting an iPad today?????? From jakemartin at smashin.com Sat Apr 3 10:43:43 2010 From: jakemartin at smashin.com (Jake Martin) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 10:43:43 -0400 Subject: iPad day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I?ve got an iPad en route to me, hopefully on a UPS truck at this moment! I tend to agree on the software front with Apple, but I have to say my original iPhone hardware is still my favorite of the three iPhone models so far. And if it?s just software updates that get better with time, well, I might as well enjoy the first rounds while I wait? ;) (Now I just can?t wait for revMobile to give me iPad support and hardware-accelerated motion/animation support?) -J On Apr 3, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Jim Kanter wrote: > I'm waiting for the next version, the one that will work properly. > Apple usually gets hardware right on the second version and software > on the third. > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Jim Ault wrote: >> >> On Apr 3, 2010, at 5:31 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: >> >>> So... which of you Americans is getting an iPad today?????? > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From claudi.c at fiberworld.nl Sat Apr 3 11:08:59 2010 From: claudi.c at fiberworld.nl (Claudi Cornaz) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:08:59 +0200 Subject: Which char is NOT in result MD5Digest In-Reply-To: <1270251007487-1749758.post@n4.nabble.com> References: <0890A74D-1907-4637-A217-737FD3F1EC6E@mac.com> <1270251007487-1749758.post@n4.nabble.com> Message-ID: Hi all you wizards, Is there a character that won't be in the result of the MD5Digest? I try to ceate a list of control id's a comma and the MD5Digest of the script of that control. Unfortunatly the cr character can be part of the resulting MD5 thus throwing of my lines with a part of the MD5. Now of course I can replace the cr but which char to use? I need one that for sure isn't returned by the MD5. Or differently: how can I keep my control id's and corresponding MD5 seperated from each other in a list, to get at each in turn? TIA Claudi From ambassador at fourthworld.com Sat Apr 3 11:28:39 2010 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 08:28:39 -0700 Subject: Which char is NOT in result MD5Digest Message-ID: <4BB75EA7.1000204@fourthworld.com> Claudi Cornaz wrote: > Is there a character that won't be in the result of the MD5Digest? > > I try to ceate a list of control id's a comma and the MD5Digest of the > script of that control. > Unfortunatly the cr character can be part of the resulting MD5 thus > throwing of my lines with a part of the MD5. > > Now of course I can replace the cr but which char to use? I need one > that for sure isn't returned by the MD5. > Or differently: how can I keep my control id's and corresponding MD5 > seperated from each other in a list, to get at each in turn? If you can deal with a string that's a bit longer, you could base64-encode the MD5 digest: put base64Encode(md5Digest(tMyString)) That'll result in a string using only a relatively small subset of ASCII characters, leaving most common delimiters (commas, tabs, etc.) free for you to use however you like. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv From pete at mollysrevenge.com Sat Apr 3 13:10:05 2010 From: pete at mollysrevenge.com (Peter Haworth) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 10:10:05 -0700 Subject: formatting data in a field In-Reply-To: <20100403170005.A5FCD2880DF@mail.runrev.com> References: <20100403170005.A5FCD2880DF@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: Since you are already calculating the number, you could use the round function in your calculation: round(a *b,2) would give you 3.17 and round (a*b,-2) would give you 3.16 (I think, I haven't tried negative rounding) Pete On Apr 3, 2010, at 10:00 AM, use-revolution-request at lists.runrev.com wrote: > David, > > put 3.1666 into mySum //result of your calculation > set the numberFormat to "0.00" // you can do this earlier in the > script > put mySum*1 into fld "Sigh" // calculate to make numberFormat work > > -- > Best regards, > > Mark Schonewille > > Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering > Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com > Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer > > Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development > projects. Feel free to contact me for a quote. > > Op 3 apr 2010, om 13:27 heeft David Coker het volgende geschreven: > >> Hello folks, >> I seem to continually get hung up in areas that should be fairly >> simple by now. >> Here is the latest that I find myself banging my head over... >> >> >> Lets say that I have two fields calculated where the sum contains >> something like 3.1666 as an example. >> What would be the proper way to format the display field as 3.16 ? >> >> >> I've tried using both "format" and "numberFormat" in various ways >> without any luck so far >> As always, I certainly appreciate any and all help I get. >> >> David C. > From zryip.theslug at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 15:35:21 2010 From: zryip.theslug at gmail.com (zryip theSlug) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 21:35:21 +0200 Subject: Images in a field - Display problem Message-ID: Hi all, In a field I have added an image using the imageSource property. When I use the field scrollbars, select text around the image or double click on the same lines of the image, portion of the image disappear. I have to scroll the field to have my picture refresh. The field is locked, focusable and autoHilite, the image is preloaded in memory. How I could fix that ? TIA Regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc From andre at andregarzia.com Sat Apr 3 15:40:17 2010 From: andre at andregarzia.com (Andre Garzia) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 16:40:17 -0300 Subject: Images in a field - Display problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Zryip, I don't think you can, or at least, I don't think it is easy. Why not using a RevBrowser rect for that, if your field is locked, then it would behave the same and it would be easier to bundle the images, just output them to a temp folder and link to them with Cheers andre On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 4:35 PM, zryip theSlug wrote: > Hi all, > > In a field I have added an image using the imageSource property. > > When I use the field scrollbars, select text around the image or > double click on the same lines of the image, portion of the image > disappear. > I have to scroll the field to have my picture refresh. > > The field is locked, focusable and autoHilite, the image is preloaded in > memory. > > How I could fix that ? > > > TIA > > Regards, > -- > -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) > http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. From zryip.theslug at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 16:04:30 2010 From: zryip.theslug at gmail.com (zryip theSlug) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 22:04:30 +0200 Subject: Images in a field - Display problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2010/4/3 Andre Garzia : > Zryip, > > I don't think you can, or at least, I don't think it is easy. > > Why not using a RevBrowser rect for that, if your field is locked, then it > would behave the same and it would be easier to bundle the images, just > output them to a temp folder and link to them with > > Cheers > andre > Andre, If I open a stack like the ListMagic stack from Eric Chatonet and go to the description part, I can do all I want in the infos field, images are not affected. When I do same in my stack, it give me the feelings that I have reinvented the eraser... 8-) I've compared parameters, change my picture format from gif to png. Nothing works. And for now I don't understand why. -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc From dave.cragg at lacscentre.co.uk Sat Apr 3 16:23:25 2010 From: dave.cragg at lacscentre.co.uk (Dave Cragg) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 21:23:25 +0100 Subject: Which char is NOT in result MD5Digest In-Reply-To: References: <0890A74D-1907-4637-A217-737FD3F1EC6E@mac.com> <1270251007487-1749758.post@n4.nabble.com> Message-ID: <0023FF93-9859-42D2-910B-7097080E8A81@lacscentre.co.uk> Following Richard's suggestion, I think a lot of people convert the output of the md5Digest function to hex: function hexDigest pvalue local tRes put md5Digest(pValue) into tMD5 get binaryDecode("H*",tMD5,tRes) return tRes end hexDigest This will contain only digits and the characters a-f. In addition, it matches the md5 digests widely used by other programs. Cheers Dave On 3 Apr 2010, at 16:08, Claudi Cornaz wrote: > > Hi all you wizards, > > Is there a character that won't be in the result of the MD5Digest? > > I try to ceate a list of control id's a comma and the MD5Digest of the script of that control. > Unfortunatly the cr character can be part of the resulting MD5 thus throwing of my lines with a part of the MD5. > > Now of course I can replace the cr but which char to use? I need one that for sure isn't returned by the MD5. > Or differently: how can I keep my control id's and corresponding MD5 seperated from each other in a list, to get at each in turn? > > TIA > Claudi > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From Andre.Bisseret at inria.fr Sat Apr 3 17:18:36 2010 From: Andre.Bisseret at inria.fr (Andre.Bisseret) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 23:18:36 +0200 Subject: Images in a field - Display problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bonsoir Zryip, Seems your field has its FixedLineHeight property set to true. Try uncheck "Fixed line height" in the basic Properties pane of the Inspector. Then, should work as expected HTH Best regards from Grenoble Andr? Le 3 avr. 10 ? 22:04, zryip theSlug a ?crit : > 2010/4/3 Andre Garzia : >> Zryip, >> >> I don't think you can, or at least, I don't think it is easy. >> >> Why not using a RevBrowser rect for that, if your field is locked, >> then it >> would behave the same and it would be easier to bundle the images, >> just >> output them to a temp folder and link to them with > src="file:> path>" /> >> >> Cheers >> andre >> > > Andre, > > If I open a stack like the ListMagic stack from Eric Chatonet and go > to the description part, I can do all I want in the infos field, > images are not affected. > > When I do same in my stack, it give me the feelings that I have > reinvented the eraser... 8-) > > I've compared parameters, change my picture format from gif to png. > Nothing works. > > And for now I don't understand why. > > -- > -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) > http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From len-morgan at crcom.net Sat Apr 3 17:21:56 2010 From: len-morgan at crcom.net (Len Morgan) Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 16:21:56 -0500 Subject: Adding configuration (by username) to a stack Message-ID: <4BB7B174.9040902@crcom.net> I have an application that's been out in the "wild" for about 3 years now and the customer is asking for some updates. One of the items that they want to change is adding the ability to do certain things like delete records (currently they call me and I do this remotely) but they only want to have certain people, based on the name they log in with, to be able to do it. I've been toying around with several different methods but I'd really like some advice on what might be the best way to make these changes to a well established program. What I'm going to need to do is: Have certain menu items either disabled or removed based on the user's rights. Have some buttons on various cards either disabled or invisible. Have certain pop up stacks come up in either read-only or read-write mode. I would like to have a system of "profile" stacks (this seems the most manageable to me), one for each role. I already validate their login from a database and get a profile description (like "Administrator") and a profile name (like "admin") for each user but I've never done anything with them. Any suggestions or pointing of the way would be appreciated. len morgan From zryip.theslug at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 18:07:47 2010 From: zryip.theslug at gmail.com (zryip theSlug) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 00:07:47 +0200 Subject: Images in a field - Display problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2010/4/3 Andre.Bisseret : > Bonsoir Zryip, > > Seems your field has its FixedLineHeight property set to true. > > Try uncheck "Fixed line height" in the basic Properties pane of the > Inspector. > > Then, should work as expected > > HTH > > Best regards from Grenoble > > Andr? > Andr?, FixedLineHeight is exactly the property that I missed. I set it to false and now it works like a charm. Thanks a lot for your help. 8-) Regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc From sarah.reichelt at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 19:56:39 2010 From: sarah.reichelt at gmail.com (Sarah Reichelt) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:56:39 +1000 Subject: formatting data in a field In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:27 PM, David Coker wrote: > Hello folks, > I seem to continually get hung up in areas that should be fairly simple by now. > Here is the latest that I find myself banging my head over... > > > Lets say that I have two fields calculated where the sum contains > something like 3.1666 as an example. > What would be the proper way to format the display field as 3.16 ? > > > I've tried using both "format" and "numberFormat" in various ways > without any luck so far > As always, I certainly appreciate any and all help I get. I prefer to use format. You then don't have to do the dummy calculation to set it in place, and you know exactly what number it is applying too, while numberFormat can end up applying to more numbers than you expected. So I woud use: put format("%.2f", 3.1666) into fld "Whatever" Cheers, Sarah From mikeythek at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 20:07:32 2010 From: mikeythek at gmail.com (Mikey) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 20:07:32 -0400 Subject: Adding configuration (by username) to a stack In-Reply-To: <4BB7B174.9040902@crcom.net> References: <4BB7B174.9040902@crcom.net> Message-ID: One of the beauties of the xcard paradigm is that is so stinking flexible. You aren't tied to a lot of the vagaries of many other RAD's. So I can only tell you how I solve this problem in the applications that I work on. I have a substack for settings/preferences/security (sometimes they are all together, and sometimes they are separated into separate stacks). Obviously you can also use custom properties if you choose. I like the stack solution because it's easier to develop the interface. It also makes it easy to have recursive or combination group privileges and access. But that's just my solution. In more traditional databases, you...never mind. xcard is much more elegant. From andre at andregarzia.com Sat Apr 3 21:00:48 2010 From: andre at andregarzia.com (Andre Garzia) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 22:00:48 -0300 Subject: [UPDATE] WeCode Libraries stack Message-ID: Hello Folks, I've updated http://wecode.org/libraries/wecodelib.reg.gz now it can handle descriptions and summaries, it will also remember you and your libraries so that updating them is even easier. WeCode Libraries is a solution for installing libaries and their dependencies. Like popular unix packaging systems or popular library packaging system for other languages (such as rubygems), WeCode Libraries can install libraries for you with a single command. With this tool, you can pick a library and have all its dependencies downloaded and organized in your HD with a single command. So far, there are only my libs in there but I hope other developers will pick this tool as well. You don't need to change anything on your library, just pick the stack, fill the information and press "Add library", then, it is available for all users. With ONE command, the users can download, save and put into use your library. Libraries can have multiple versions and refer to each other, so we can now easily build code that depend on each other without entering dependency hell. During the next days I will be updating the pages, adding screen casts, updated lessons and spreading the word. Come join me and have peace of mind dealing with libraries!!! http://wecode.org/libraries/ Cheers andre -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. From andre at andregarzia.com Sun Apr 4 00:19:55 2010 From: andre at andregarzia.com (andre at andregarzia.com) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 01:19:55 -0300 Subject: [UPDATE] WeCode Libraries stack In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3A25D904-B101-49CF-9171-A5D33F339412@andregarzia.com> Oops, there was a typo on my last email. Http://wecode.org/libraries/wecodelib.rev.gz Enviado de meu iPhone Em 03/04/2010, ?s 22:00, Andre Garzia escreveu: > Hello Folks, > > I've updated http://wecode.org/libraries/wecodelib.reg.gz now it can > handle descriptions and summaries, it will also remember you and > your libraries so that updating them is even easier. > > WeCode Libraries is a solution for installing libaries and their > dependencies. Like popular unix packaging systems or popular library > packaging system for other languages (such as rubygems), WeCode > Libraries can install libraries for you with a single command. With > this tool, you can pick a library and have all its dependencies > downloaded and organized in your HD with a single command. > > So far, there are only my libs in there but I hope other developers > will pick this tool as well. You don't need to change anything on > your library, just pick the stack, fill the information and press > "Add library", then, it is available for all users. With ONE > command, the users can download, save and put into use your library. > > Libraries can have multiple versions and refer to each other, so we > can now easily build code that depend on each other without entering > dependency hell. > > During the next days I will be updating the pages, adding screen > casts, updated lessons and spreading the word. Come join me and have > peace of mind dealing with libraries!!! > > http://wecode.org/libraries/ > > Cheers > andre > > -- > http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Sun Apr 4 08:07:48 2010 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 14:07:48 +0200 Subject: RevBrowser Crash Message-ID: Hello, I have sent this question before, but haven't got any response. Has anyone else experienced similar problems? For a client's project, I am using the RevBrowser external to display Google Maps. Unfortunately, the RevBrowser external crashes with any Google site, on Windows Vista and Windows 7. The external works fine with all other operating systems. There is no crash report, no dialogue, no logs, nothing. RunRev simply disappears, as if it was never running. I have no problems with other websites. I know at least one more person who experiences the same problem. I have tried it on different machines running Vista and Win 7. I have tried RunRev 2.9, 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development projects. Feel free to contact me for a quote. From davidocoker at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 10:35:48 2010 From: davidocoker at gmail.com (David Coker) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:35:48 -0500 Subject: formatting data in a field In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks to both Pete and Sarah for the added input... Sarah added: > I prefer to use format. You then don't have to do the dummy > calculation to set it in place, and you know exactly what number it is > applying too, while numberFormat can end up applying to more numbers > than you expected. > > So I would use: > ? put format("%.2f", 3.1666) into fld "Whatever" That's exactly what I was trying to do and in fact looks very much the same as the way I was trying it. I think my misunderstanding has to do with how to use the 3.1666 which is stored in a variable. e.g. tCount = 3.166 put format("%.2f", tCount) into fld "Whatever" In my situation, the actual value of the number involved is completely informational and of no great importance elsewhere. All I am trying to accomplish is to improve the appearance to the user. If you can shed some light there, I would appreciate it. Best regards, David C. From sarah.reichelt at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 19:36:07 2010 From: sarah.reichelt at gmail.com (Sarah Reichelt) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:36:07 +1000 Subject: formatting data in a field In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> I prefer to use format. You then don't have to do the dummy >> calculation to set it in place, and you know exactly what number it is >> applying too, while numberFormat can end up applying to more numbers >> than you expected. >> >> So I would use: >> ? put format("%.2f", 3.1666) into fld "Whatever" > > That's exactly what I was trying to do and in fact looks very much the > same as the way I was trying it. I think my misunderstanding has to do > with how to use the 3.1666 which is stored in a variable. e.g. > > tCount = 3.166 > put format("%.2f", tCount) into fld "Whatever" > > In my situation, the actual value of the number involved is completely > informational and of no great importance elsewhere. All I am trying to > accomplish is to improve the appearance to the user. I'm not quite sure what the problem is here David, but the line: tCount = 3.166 will not work, so I assume that was just you telling us what was in tCount. If you are allocating a value to tCount, you would have to use: put 3.166 into tCount Once you have done that, then the line you quoted: put format("%.2f", tCount) into fld "Whatever" should work just fine. Cheers, Sarah From stephenREVOLUTION2 at barncard.com Sun Apr 4 20:54:08 2010 From: stephenREVOLUTION2 at barncard.com (stephen barncard) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:54:08 -0700 Subject: Saving audioclips to a file as ... Message-ID: Good Afternoon, Is it possible to export an audioclip to a standard .wav or .aif file in Rev? put audioClip 3 into URL("binfile:" & sFilePath) ... creates a file, but it won't play -- just makes a text file with the contents of sFIlepath.. can't get there from here? what is the audio equivalent of "imageData" ? sqb -- ------------------------- Stephen Barncard Back home in SF From shani.runrev at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 22:20:05 2010 From: shani.runrev at gmail.com (Shani) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 04:20:05 +0200 Subject: Runrev Server Client Example? Message-ID: HI Is there is any RevTalk Server Client Example with any program 1, Revtalk to PHP through Socket using TCP/IP 2. Revtalk to VB through Socket using TCP/IP 3. Revtalk to JAVA through Socket using TCP/IP 4. Revtalk to C through Socket using TCP/IP 5. Revtalk to JADE through Socket using TCP/IP 6 Revtalk to C++ through Socket using TCP/IP 7 Revtalk to C# through Socket using TCP/IP etc From shani.runrev at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 22:20:33 2010 From: shani.runrev at gmail.com (Shani) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 04:20:33 +0200 Subject: Rev Talk Socket Message-ID: HI Is there is any RevTalk Server Client Example with any program 1, Revtalk to PHP through Socket using TCP/IP 2. Revtalk to VB through Socket using TCP/IP 3. Revtalk to JAVA through Socket using TCP/IP 4. Revtalk to C through Socket using TCP/IP 5. Revtalk to JADE through Socket using TCP/IP 6 Revtalk to C++ through Socket using TCP/IP 7 Revtalk to C# through Socket using TCP/IP etc From davidocoker at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 22:30:57 2010 From: davidocoker at gmail.com (David Coker) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:30:57 -0500 Subject: formatting data in a field In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > I'm not quite sure what the problem is here David, but the line: > ? ?tCount = 3.166 > will not work, so I assume that was just you telling us what was in tCount. Yes, you are correct... I was just trying to indicate what might be contained in the variable at any given time. ... ... > Once you have done that, then the line you quoted: > ? ?put format("%.2f", tCount) into fld "Whatever" > should work just fine. I just made an entirely separate stack so to recreate the same general situation as it is in my app and you are correct above as well. It works exactly as you describe and just the way I *thought* it was supposed to before I sent the "help me" message. At this point. all I can think of is maybe I have some other problem lurking in my code somewhere that I am not "seeing" although I've been through it a dozen times at least. Oh well, I guess it's good to know that I was working in the right direction at least and I really appreciate the help in clarifying the proper usage. Best regards to all, David C. From scott at tactilemedia.com Sun Apr 4 23:17:39 2010 From: scott at tactilemedia.com (Scott Rossi) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 20:17:39 -0700 Subject: Saving audioclips to a file as ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Recently, stephen barncard wrote: > Is it possible to export an audioclip to a standard .wav or .aif file in > Rev? Unless RunRev changed something in 4.5, I don't believe you can. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design From stephenREVOLUTION2 at barncard.com Mon Apr 5 00:11:53 2010 From: stephenREVOLUTION2 at barncard.com (stephen barncard) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:11:53 -0700 Subject: Saving audioclips to a file as ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's what I thought. Thanks for confirming, Scott. On 4 April 2010 20:17, Scott Rossi wrote: > Recently, stephen barncard wrote: > > > Is it possible to export an audioclip to a standard .wav or .aif file in > > Rev? > > Unless RunRev changed something in 4.5, I don't believe you can. > > Regards, > > Scott Rossi > Creative Director > Tactile Media, UX Design > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- ------------------------- Stephen Barncard Back home in SF From psahores at free.fr Mon Apr 5 02:32:22 2010 From: psahores at free.fr (Pierre Sahores) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:32:22 +0200 Subject: Runrev Server Client Example? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <830F69C4-FAB4-4CDE-A460-09F9A35F2CFE@free.fr> Le 5 avr. 10 ? 04:20, Shani a ?crit : > 1, Revtalk to PHP through Socket using TCP/IP http://www2.sahores-conseil.com/insead/page4.php -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.woooooooords.com www.sahores-conseil.com From richmondmathewson at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 02:46:39 2010 From: richmondmathewson at gmail.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:46:39 +0300 Subject: Saving audioclips to a file as ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BB9874F.3090509@gmail.com> On 05/04/2010 03:54, stephen barncard wrote: > Good Afternoon, > > Is it possible to export an audioclip to a standard .wav or .aif file in > Rev? > > put audioClip 3 into URL("binfile:"& sFilePath) > > ... creates a file, but it won't play -- just makes a text file with the > contents of sFIlepath.. > > can't get there from here? > > what is the audio equivalent of "imageData" ? > > > sqb This is an old chestnut that I remember mentioning about 6 years ago! RunRev has no audioClip or videoClip export facilities; a lack that needs to be remedied. From claudi.c at fiberworld.nl Mon Apr 5 04:45:13 2010 From: claudi.c at fiberworld.nl (Claudi Cornaz) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:45:13 +0200 Subject: Which char is NOT in result MD5Digest In-Reply-To: <4BB75EA7.1000204@fourthworld.com> References: <4BB75EA7.1000204@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: <40298E65-6BFF-4509-86D9-578562CDBA42@fiberworld.nl> Hi Richard and Dave, Thanks for the answers. It works like a charm. Not something I would have found in a long long time. Anyway back to coding again. Claudi On 3 apr 2010, at 17:28, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Claudi Cornaz wrote: > >> Is there a character that won't be in the result of the MD5Digest? >> >> I try to ceate a list of control id's a comma and the MD5Digest of >> the >> script of that control. >> Unfortunatly the cr character can be part of the resulting MD5 thus >> throwing of my lines with a part of the MD5. >> >> Now of course I can replace the cr but which char to use? I need one >> that for sure isn't returned by the MD5. >> Or differently: how can I keep my control id's and corresponding MD5 >> seperated from each other in a list, to get at each in turn? > > If you can deal with a string that's a bit longer, you could base64- > encode the MD5 digest: > > put base64Encode(md5Digest(tMyString)) > > That'll result in a string using only a relatively small subset of > ASCII characters, leaving most common delimiters (commas, tabs, > etc.) free for you to use however you like. > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World > Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com > Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com > revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From dr.alistair at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 08:02:18 2010 From: dr.alistair at gmail.com (planix) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 04:02:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Wierd stack behaviour- location is off the planet! Message-ID: <1270468938606-1751550.post@n4.nabble.com> Hiya, RunRev 4 Build 950 on a Windows XP. I wonder if anyone has seen the following. I have a stack which fronts a series of sub-stacks. It doesn't have any scripts apart from a menu choice so the user can go from this stack to the other sub-stacks where data is stored and managed. The problem I have is that suddenly, and for no discernible reason, the front stack disappeared. It seemed to be available and visible was set to true. So, I had a look in size & position properties. There I found that the location of this stack was set at -32165, -31850. Bizarre. I don't have any coding anywhere in my stacks that resets window location or anything. "Ho, hum", thunk I "I'll just reset the location manually and viola, problem solved!" Hah! No such luck. I can't change the location. Doesn't matter what I type in it sets back to the location described above. Without even a mild attempt to come back to me. I have no idea how I made this happen. And I have no idea of how to make it come back. Any thoughts on this? Seems like a bug to me. So, I will report it unless I am just doing something blindingly stupid. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Wierd-stack-behaviour-location-is-off-the-planet-tp1751550p1751550.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From devin_asay at byu.edu Mon Apr 5 11:18:47 2010 From: devin_asay at byu.edu (Devin Asay) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:18:47 -0600 Subject: Wierd stack behaviour- location is off the planet! In-Reply-To: <1270468938606-1751550.post@n4.nabble.com> References: <1270468938606-1751550.post@n4.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Apr 5, 2010, at 6:02 AM, planix wrote: > > Hiya, > > RunRev 4 Build 950 on a Windows XP. > > I wonder if anyone has seen the following. > > I have a stack which fronts a series of sub-stacks. It doesn't have > any > scripts apart from a menu choice so the user can go from this stack > to the > other sub-stacks where data is stored and managed. > > The problem I have is that suddenly, and for no discernible reason, > the > front stack disappeared. It seemed to be available and visible was > set to > true. So, I had a look in size & position properties. There I found > that the > location of this stack was set at -32165, -31850. Bizarre. I don't > have any > coding anywhere in my stacks that resets window location or anything. > > "Ho, hum", thunk I "I'll just reset the location manually and viola, > problem > solved!" Hah! No such luck. I can't change the location. Doesn't > matter what > I type in it sets back to the location described above. Without even > a mild > attempt to come back to me. > > I have no idea how I made this happen. And I have no idea of how to > make it > come back. > > Any thoughts on this? Seems like a bug to me. So, I will report it > unless I > am just doing something blindingly stupid. Did you try 'set the lockmessages to true' before changing the loc? Don't forget to set it to false when everything's fixed, though. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University From DunbarX at aol.com Mon Apr 5 12:29:43 2010 From: DunbarX at aol.com (DunbarX at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:29:43 EDT Subject: formatting data in a field Message-ID: <58bc5.218149f8.38eb69f7@aol.com> Dave, I think what was not made strongly enough in all the posts was that at least one numerical operation has to be performed for the numberformat to lock in. So: get "1.234" set numberformat to "0.0" put it will give you "1.234" In the responses, you may have seen the variable multiplied by 1, which may have seemed superfluous. It is not. Personally, I like to add 0. But you have to do something. get "1.234" set numberformat to "0.0" add 0 to it put it gives you "1.2" Craig Newman From shani.runrev at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 12:39:24 2010 From: shani.runrev at gmail.com (Shani) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:39:24 +0200 Subject: Runrev Server Client Example? In-Reply-To: <830F69C4-FAB4-4CDE-A460-09F9A35F2CFE@free.fr> References: <830F69C4-FAB4-4CDE-A460-09F9A35F2CFE@free.fr> Message-ID: Thanks Pierre, this is very good Example and it is very helpful. is there is any other examples. 2. Revtalk to VB through Socket using TCP/IP 3. Revtalk to JAVA through Socket using TCP/IP 4. Revtalk to C through Socket using TCP/IP 5. Revtalk to JADE through Socket using TCP/IP 6 Revtalk to C++ through Socket using TCP/IP 7 Revtalk to C# through Socket using TCP/IP etc Regards, SHANI On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote: > > Le 5 avr. 10 ? 04:20, Shani a ?crit : > > > 1, Revtalk to PHP through Socket using TCP/IP >> > > http://www2.sahores-conseil.com/insead/page4.php > > -- > Pierre Sahores > mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 > > www.woooooooords.com > www.sahores-conseil.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Mon Apr 5 12:41:08 2010 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:41:08 +0200 Subject: Rev Talk Socket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Shani, I have posted the script for a very simple telnet server on my blog at . Maybe it helps you. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development projects. Feel free to contact me for a quote. Op 5 apr 2010, om 04:20 heeft Shani het volgende geschreven: > HI > > Is there is any RevTalk Server Client Example with any program > > 1, Revtalk to PHP through Socket using TCP/IP > 2. Revtalk to VB through Socket using TCP/IP > 3. Revtalk to JAVA through Socket using TCP/IP > 4. Revtalk to C through Socket using TCP/IP > 5. Revtalk to JADE through Socket using TCP/IP > 6 Revtalk to C++ through Socket using TCP/IP > 7 Revtalk to C# through Socket using TCP/IP > etc From davidocoker at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 14:07:57 2010 From: davidocoker at gmail.com (David Coker) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:07:57 -0500 Subject: formatting data in a field In-Reply-To: <58bc5.218149f8.38eb69f7@aol.com> References: <58bc5.218149f8.38eb69f7@aol.com> Message-ID: > Dave, I think what was not made strongly enough in all the posts was that > at least one numerical operation has to be performed for the numberformat to > lock in. So: > > get "1.234" > set numberformat to "0.0" > put it > > will give you "1.234" > > In the responses, you may have seen the variable multiplied by 1, which may > have seemed superfluous. It is not. Personally, I like to add 0. But you > have to do something. > > get "1.234" > set numberformat to "0.0" > add 0 to it > put it > > gives you "1.2" Thank you Craig, Out of all the small apps I've built with Rev so far, this is the first time I've ever had the need to to format a number and in this case it's purely to enhance what the user will see. It's all good info and I appreciate all of the tips and suggestions because I'm sure that I (or someone else) will need the knowledge down the road somewhere. Best regards, David C. From richmondmathewson at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 14:33:24 2010 From: richmondmathewson at gmail.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:33:24 +0300 Subject: Mucking around with unicodeText fields ??? Message-ID: <4BBA2CF4.4030704@gmail.com> Imagine, if you will, a field containing a fairly long string of unicodeText . . . Now, some of the characters in the field (let's call it fld "FIRST") are in the wrong order . . . And, we want to find the ones that are in the wrong places and move them into the right places let's say in fld "SECOND" . . . Now, my problem is that I can envisage this sort of script: on mouseUp if the unicodeText in fld "FIRST" contains (numToChar(57888) & numToChar(57999)) then --- do something terribly clever that changes their order in the unicodeText and --- puts the whole unicodeText into fld "SECOND" end if end mouseUp but for the life of me I can't work out how to swap the chars round; this is extremely easy to do with non-unicode text: on mouseUp put "CHEESE" into fld "THIRD" replace "EE" with "A" in fld "THIRD" end mouseUp this: on mouseUp set the useUnicode to true if the unicodeText of fld "FIRST" contains (numToChar(57888) & numToChar(57999)) then replace the unicodeText(numToChar(57888) & numToChar(57999)) with the unicodeText(numToChar(57999) & numToChar(57888)) in fld "FIRST" end if end mouseUp does not work. And this: on mouseUp set the useUnicode to true if the unicodeText of fld "FIRST" contains (numToChar(57888) & numToChar(57999)) then replace (numToChar(57888) & numToChar(57999)) with (numToChar(57999) & numToChar(57888)) in fld "FIRST" end if end mouseUp de-unicodes the text in fld "FIRST, so I end up with a string of boxes. From richmondmathewson at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 14:46:49 2010 From: richmondmathewson at gmail.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:46:49 +0300 Subject: Fwd: Mucking around with unicodeText fields ??? Message-ID: <4BBA3019.6070707@gmail.com> Here he goes again; replying to his own messages . . . :) >Imagine, if you will, a field containing a fairly long string of unicodeText . . . >Now, some of the characters in the field (let's call it fld "FIRST") are in the wrong order . . . >And, we want to find the ones that are in the wrong places and move them into the right places >let's say in fld "SECOND" . . . >Now, my problem is that I can envisage this sort of script: >on mouseUp >if the unicodeText in fld "FIRST" contains (numToChar(57888) & numToChar(57999)) then >--- do something terribly clever that changes their order in the unicodeText and >--- puts the whole unicodeText into fld "SECOND" >end if >end mouseUp >but for the life of me I can't work out how to swap the chars round; this is extremely easy to do with >non-unicode text: >on mouseUp >put "CHEESE" into fld "THIRD" >replace "EE" with "A" in fld "THIRD" >end mouseUp >this: >on mouseUp >set the useUnicode to true >if the unicodeText of fld "FIRST" contains (numToChar(57888) & numToChar(57999)) then >replace the unicodeText(numToChar(57888) & numToChar(57999)) with the unicodeText(numToChar(57999) & numToChar(57888)) >in fld "FIRST" >end if >end mouseUp >does not work. >And this: >on mouseUp >set the useUnicode to true >if the unicodeText of fld "FIRST" contains (numToChar(57888) & numToChar(57999)) then >replace (numToChar(57888) & numToChar(57999)) with (numToChar(57999) & numToChar(57888)) in fld "FIRST" >end if >end mouseUp >de-unicodes the text in fld "FIRST, so I end up with a string of boxes. This WORKS: on mouseUp set the useUnicode to true if the unicodeText of fld "FIRST" contains (numToChar(57888) & numToChar(57999)) then get the unicodeText of fld "FIRST" replace (numToChar(57888) & numToChar(57999)) with (numToChar(57999) & numToChar(57888)) in it set the unicodeText of fld "FIRST" to it end if end mouseUp Documentation is NOT helpful in this respect. From shani.runrev at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 14:57:28 2010 From: shani.runrev at gmail.com (Shani) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:57:28 +0200 Subject: Rev Talk Socket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Great work! Thanks Regards, SHANI On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com> wrote: > Hi Shani, > > I have posted the script for a very simple telnet server on my blog at < > http://blog.schonewille.tk>. Maybe it helps you. > > -- > Best regards, > > Mark Schonewille > > Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering > Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com > Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer > > Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development projects. > Feel free to contact me for a quote. > > Op 5 apr 2010, om 04:20 heeft Shani het volgende geschreven: > > > HI >> >> Is there is any RevTalk Server Client Example with any program >> >> 1, Revtalk to PHP through Socket using TCP/IP >> 2. Revtalk to VB through Socket using TCP/IP >> 3. Revtalk to JAVA through Socket using TCP/IP >> 4. Revtalk to C through Socket using TCP/IP >> 5. Revtalk to JADE through Socket using TCP/IP >> 6 Revtalk to C++ through Socket using TCP/IP >> 7 Revtalk to C# through Socket using TCP/IP >> etc >> > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From revolution at derbrill.de Mon Apr 5 15:25:49 2010 From: revolution at derbrill.de (Malte Pfaff-Brill) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:25:49 +0200 Subject: Wierd stack behaviour- location is off the planet! In-Reply-To: <20100213180005.43EE72881B9@mail.runrev.com> References: <20100213180005.43EE72881B9@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: <3F653AF7-843F-4FA3-81CA-44AC742B6FBB@derbrill.de> Hi Planix, is by chance the iconic property of your stack set to true? Try in messagebox: set the iconic of stack "yourStack" to false Hth, Malte From palcibiades-first at yahoo.co.uk Mon Apr 5 15:25:50 2010 From: palcibiades-first at yahoo.co.uk (Peter Alcibiades) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:25:50 +0100 Subject: Desktop innovation? Future of the desktop? Message-ID: <201004052025.50783.palcibiades-first@yahoo.co.uk> I don't use gnome, and preferred kde 3.5 to 4.x, and fluxbox to both of them, but evidently some are really really enthusiastic about the innovation which Gnome 3 supposedly represents. Gnome enthusiasts like Richard G may find this interesting. Peter http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=1405&tag=leftCol;post-1405 From jiml at netrin.com Mon Apr 5 16:19:30 2010 From: jiml at netrin.com (Jim Lambert) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:19:30 -0700 Subject: Is onrev down? In-Reply-To: <20100405170005.AD9F6288066@mail.runrev.com> References: <20100405170005.AD9F6288066@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: <994ED560-5D58-4AAE-A2F2-BB77FE66883C@netrin.com> Anyone else having difficulty logging into onRev cPanel, using the on-rev app, or using on-rev mail? thanks, jimL From runrev260805 at m-r-d.de Mon Apr 5 16:23:53 2010 From: runrev260805 at m-r-d.de (Matthias Rebbe) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:23:53 +0200 Subject: Is onrev down? In-Reply-To: <994ED560-5D58-4AAE-A2F2-BB77FE66883C@netrin.com> References: <20100405170005.AD9F6288066@mail.runrev.com> <994ED560-5D58-4AAE-A2F2-BB77FE66883C@netrin.com> Message-ID: <4864BC1A-065F-4A8F-9672-105FD8E052B5@m-r-d.de> Works here with loki.on-rev.com. Regards, Matthias Am 05.04.2010 um 22:19 schrieb Jim Lambert: > Anyone else having difficulty logging into onRev cPanel, using the on-rev app, or using on-rev mail? > > thanks, > jimL_______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From revolution at derbrill.de Mon Apr 5 16:25:23 2010 From: revolution at derbrill.de (Malte Pfaff-Brill) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:25:23 +0200 Subject: Is onrev down? In-Reply-To: <20100215180004.58F1F2882DE@mail.runrev.com> References: <20100215180004.58F1F2882DE@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: <8029CF5D-8A3D-4064-860E-71D1F8BFF9AE@derbrill.de> No problems on thor. Cheers, Malte From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Mon Apr 5 16:37:35 2010 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:37:35 -0500 Subject: Is onrev down? In-Reply-To: <994ED560-5D58-4AAE-A2F2-BB77FE66883C@netrin.com> References: <20100405170005.AD9F6288066@mail.runrev.com> <994ED560-5D58-4AAE-A2F2-BB77FE66883C@netrin.com> Message-ID: <4BBA4A0F.1090507@hyperactivesw.com> Jim Lambert wrote: > Anyone else having difficulty logging into onRev cPanel, using the > on-rev app, or using on-rev mail? Works okay here on loki, but Jerry Daniels wrote me today and said he's having trouble. What server are you on? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com From niggemann at uni-wh.de Mon Apr 5 16:51:57 2010 From: niggemann at uni-wh.de (BNig) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:51:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Is onrev down? In-Reply-To: <994ED560-5D58-4AAE-A2F2-BB77FE66883C@netrin.com> References: <994ED560-5D58-4AAE-A2F2-BB77FE66883C@netrin.com> Message-ID: <1270500717463-1752089.post@n4.nabble.com> does not work for me on freyr, neither AccesscPanel nor on-Rev.app. Website works. regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Is-onrev-down-tp1752055p1752089.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From jiml at netrin.com Mon Apr 5 16:54:14 2010 From: jiml at netrin.com (Jim Lambert) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:54:14 -0700 Subject: use-revolution Digest, Vol 79, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <20100405170005.AD9F6288066@mail.runrev.com> References: <20100405170005.AD9F6288066@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: <23207A5A-3EE2-4284-84DC-E9ADCF336C3C@netrin.com> Thanks for the responses! Jacque wrote: > Works okay here on loki, but Jerry Daniels wrote me today and said he's > having trouble. What server are you on? > I'm on Freyr freyr.on-rev.com kind of sad that a phallic fertility god is down! Jim Lambert From jiml at netrin.com Mon Apr 5 16:55:59 2010 From: jiml at netrin.com (Jim Lambert) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:55:59 -0700 Subject: Is onrev down? In-Reply-To: <20100405170005.AD9F6288066@mail.runrev.com> References: <20100405170005.AD9F6288066@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: <3560A2A0-C539-4575-BD06-B2BEBD41386F@netrin.com> Sorry. wrong subject in my earlier response. Now I see Bernd also has problems on Freyr. JimL Thanks for the responses! Jacque wrote: > Works okay here on loki, but Jerry Daniels wrote me today and said he's > having trouble. What server are you on? > I'm on Freyr freyr.on-rev.com kind of sad that a phallic fertility god is down! Jim Lambert From coiin at verizon.net Mon Apr 5 17:04:38 2010 From: coiin at verizon.net (Colin Holgate) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:04:38 -0400 Subject: Is onrev down? In-Reply-To: <3560A2A0-C539-4575-BD06-B2BEBD41386F@netrin.com> References: <20100405170005.AD9F6288066@mail.runrev.com> <3560A2A0-C539-4575-BD06-B2BEBD41386F@netrin.com> Message-ID: <6287A455-0326-4D44-B63F-812ACA4195C1@verizon.net> On Apr 5, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Jim Lambert wrote: > > freyr.on-rev.com It's not a very exciting page, but it does load for me in NYC, as do my own pages on on-rev. From jiml at netrin.com Mon Apr 5 17:08:35 2010 From: jiml at netrin.com (Jim Lambert) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:08:35 -0700 Subject: Is onrev down? In-Reply-To: <20100405170005.AD9F6288066@mail.runrev.com> References: <20100405170005.AD9F6288066@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: <346D9E13-0C72-4BA6-BA7C-07566A620C98@netrin.com> Colin wrote: > > freyr.on-rev.com > > > It's not a very exciting page, but it does load for me in NYC, as do my own pages on on-rev. Everything, cPanel, mail, onRev app work here now, too. Long live Freyr! Thanks All, Jim Lambert From jhj at jhj.com Mon Apr 5 17:13:06 2010 From: jhj at jhj.com (Jerry J) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:13:06 -0700 Subject: Is onrev down? In-Reply-To: <346D9E13-0C72-4BA6-BA7C-07566A620C98@netrin.com> References: <20100405170005.AD9F6288066@mail.runrev.com> <346D9E13-0C72-4BA6-BA7C-07566A620C98@netrin.com> Message-ID: On Apr 5, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Jim Lambert wrote: > Colin wrote: >>> freyr.on-rev.com >> >> >> It's not a very exciting page, but it does load for me in NYC, as do my own pages on on-rev. > > Everything, cPanel, mail, onRev app work here now, too. > > Long live Freyr! Freyr is working fine for me too, but I'm getting a lot of duplicate emails, sometimes separated by a few hours. Something's afoot! Jerry Jensen From psahores at free.fr Mon Apr 5 17:43:34 2010 From: psahores at free.fr (Pierre Sahores) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 23:43:34 +0200 Subject: Is onrev down? In-Reply-To: <994ED560-5D58-4AAE-A2F2-BB77FE66883C@netrin.com> References: <20100405170005.AD9F6288066@mail.runrev.com> <994ED560-5D58-4AAE-A2F2-BB77FE66883C@netrin.com> Message-ID: <09501B97-57B2-4ED6-9DF7-831B9664A784@free.fr> Loki is OK for me. Best Regards, Le 5 avr. 10 ? 22:19, Jim Lambert a ?crit : > Anyone else having difficulty logging into onRev cPanel, using the > on-rev app, or using on-rev mail? > > thanks, > jimL_______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.woooooooords.com www.sahores-conseil.com From psahores at free.fr Mon Apr 5 17:52:55 2010 From: psahores at free.fr (Pierre Sahores) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 23:52:55 +0200 Subject: Runrev Server Client Example? In-Reply-To: References: <830F69C4-FAB4-4CDE-A460-09F9A35F2CFE@free.fr> Message-ID: Hello Shani, Take time to download the package if needed. I will remove the old server "www2.sahores-conseil.com" next week and reinstall all it contents to my on-rev account as soon as possible. Best Regards, Pierre Le 5 avr. 10 ? 18:39, Shani a ?crit : > Thanks Pierre, this is very good Example and it is very helpful. is > there is > any other examples. > > > 2. Revtalk to VB through Socket using TCP/IP > 3. Revtalk to JAVA through Socket using TCP/IP > 4. Revtalk to C through Socket using TCP/IP > 5. Revtalk to JADE through Socket using TCP/IP > 6 Revtalk to C++ through Socket using TCP/IP > 7 Revtalk to C# through Socket using TCP/IP > etc > > Regards, > SHANI > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Pierre Sahores > wrote: > >> >> Le 5 avr. 10 ? 04:20, Shani a ?crit : >> >> >> 1, Revtalk to PHP through Socket using TCP/IP >>> >> >> http://www2.sahores-conseil.com/insead/page4.php >> >> -- >> Pierre Sahores >> mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 >> >> www.woooooooords.com >> www.sahores-conseil.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.woooooooords.com www.sahores-conseil.com From bobs at twft.com Mon Apr 5 18:17:20 2010 From: bobs at twft.com (Bob Sneidar) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:17:20 -0700 Subject: Is onrev down? In-Reply-To: References: <20100405170005.AD9F6288066@mail.runrev.com> <346D9E13-0C72-4BA6-BA7C-07566A620C98@netrin.com> Message-ID: <278896E5-669D-4FB0-A8C0-C47C98F3D0C1@twft.com> Um... perhaps a foot is? Bob On Apr 5, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Jerry J wrote: > Freyr is working fine for me too, but I'm getting a lot of duplicate emails, sometimes separated by a few hours. Something's afoot! > > Jerry Jensen From fmoyer at aol.com Mon Apr 5 18:34:30 2010 From: fmoyer at aol.com (Fred Moyer) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:34:30 -0400 Subject: Need someone with knowlege of sound files Message-ID: <5F87FC5A-C97A-47B6-8DC5-9556DF902788@aol.com> Dear friends: I am looking for a Revolution programmer with experience at manipulating sound files -- -- for a several projects that I am working on. Also desired: knowledge of Quicktime and Midi. Any recommendations would be most welcome! Thanks. Fred Moyer From jerry.daniels at me.com Mon Apr 5 19:08:57 2010 From: jerry.daniels at me.com (Jerry Daniels) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:08:57 -0500 Subject: Is onrev down? In-Reply-To: <278896E5-669D-4FB0-A8C0-C47C98F3D0C1@twft.com> References: <20100405170005.AD9F6288066@mail.runrev.com> <346D9E13-0C72-4BA6-BA7C-07566A620C98@netrin.com> <278896E5-669D-4FB0-A8C0-C47C98F3D0C1@twft.com> Message-ID: <18BF7179-E8F7-4B2A-925F-9C5D1A4E7463@me.com> Same here. Up and down. No pattern to it. On Apr 5, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Um... perhaps a foot is? > > Bob > > > On Apr 5, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Jerry J wrote: > >> Freyr is working fine for me too, but I'm getting a lot of duplicate emails, sometimes separated by a few hours. Something's afoot! >> >> Jerry Jensen > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From jerry.daniels at me.com Mon Apr 5 19:14:03 2010 From: jerry.daniels at me.com (Jerry Daniels) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:14:03 -0500 Subject: Is onrev down? In-Reply-To: <18BF7179-E8F7-4B2A-925F-9C5D1A4E7463@me.com> References: <20100405170005.AD9F6288066@mail.runrev.com> <346D9E13-0C72-4BA6-BA7C-07566A620C98@netrin.com> <278896E5-669D-4FB0-A8C0-C47C98F3D0C1@twft.com> <18BF7179-E8F7-4B2A-925F-9C5D1A4E7463@me.com> Message-ID: <773B8CEF-A8CC-49DF-8A61-F6A2800C38B0@me.com> I should note that it onlyseems to be the FTP connections that are at fault. HTTP cruising right along. On Apr 5, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: > Same here. Up and down. No pattern to it. > > On Apr 5, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > >> Um... perhaps a foot is? >> >> Bob >> >> >> On Apr 5, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Jerry J wrote: >> >>> Freyr is working fine for me too, but I'm getting a lot of duplicate emails, sometimes separated by a few hours. Something's afoot! >>> >>> Jerry Jensen >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From zryip.theslug at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 19:31:47 2010 From: zryip.theslug at gmail.com (zryip theSlug) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 01:31:47 +0200 Subject: [ANN] The Slug's color picker is on the road again for beta test Message-ID: Dear friends, A new version of the Slug's color picker is available for beta test on my website. http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc/index.php?option=com_phocadownload&view=category&id=2:tools&Itemid=63 What's new in the 0.2 ? version: - Add the possibility to choose the color of the selected objects (red, system color or custom color) - Add the possibility to define the default color mode : web or RGB - Hold down the mouse on the picker to dock / undock it with the rev tool palette. Wait until the hand cursor appears, then move the picker to undock it. To dock the picker again, wait the hand cursor and move the picker in the rev tools palette. Features: - Pick a color from the content of your screen. - Apply a background and / or a border color to a control by drag & drop. - Apply a background color to a stack by drag & drop. - During the drag, a focus indicates which controls will be colorized. - Apply the selected color to the RR tools. - Choose between RGB or Web color format. - Edit the color value in a field. I'm waiting for your feedbacks and bugs report ;) TIA Regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc From jhj at jhj.com Mon Apr 5 19:39:45 2010 From: jhj at jhj.com (Jerry J) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:39:45 -0700 Subject: Is onrev down? In-Reply-To: <773B8CEF-A8CC-49DF-8A61-F6A2800C38B0@me.com> References: <20100405170005.AD9F6288066@mail.runrev.com> <346D9E13-0C72-4BA6-BA7C-07566A620C98@netrin.com> <278896E5-669D-4FB0-A8C0-C47C98F3D0C1@twft.com> <18BF7179-E8F7-4B2A-925F-9C5D1A4E7463@me.com> <773B8CEF-A8CC-49DF-8A61-F6A2800C38B0@me.com> Message-ID: HTTP is fine for me too, but IMAP mail is a mess. Multiple and/or very late deliveries. I don't use their SMTP. On Apr 5, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: > I should note that it onlyseems to be the FTP connections that are at fault. HTTP cruising right along. > > On Apr 5, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: > >> Same here. Up and down. No pattern to it. >> >> On Apr 5, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: >> >>> Um... perhaps a foot is? >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> On Apr 5, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Jerry J wrote: >>> >>>> Freyr is working fine for me too, but I'm getting a lot of duplicate emails, sometimes separated by a few hours. Something's afoot! >>>> >>>> Jerry Jensen >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> _______________________________________________ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From sarah.reichelt at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 19:58:32 2010 From: sarah.reichelt at gmail.com (Sarah Reichelt) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 09:58:32 +1000 Subject: Is onrev down? In-Reply-To: <994ED560-5D58-4AAE-A2F2-BB77FE66883C@netrin.com> References: <20100405170005.AD9F6288066@mail.runrev.com> <994ED560-5D58-4AAE-A2F2-BB77FE66883C@netrin.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:19 AM, Jim Lambert wrote: > Anyone else having difficulty logging into onRev cPanel, using the on-rev app, or using on-rev mail? Everything is working on odin: http, ftp, pop, smtp. Cheers, Sarah From jiml at netrin.com Tue Apr 6 00:26:42 2010 From: jiml at netrin.com (Jim Lambert) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:26:42 -0700 Subject: Is onrev down? In-Reply-To: <20100405170005.AD9F6288066@mail.runrev.com> References: <20100405170005.AD9F6288066@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: <0894D14E-5D50-4337-83A9-27324A810C72@netrin.com> Thanks to all who responded. The Freyr server was a bit flaky earlier today, but now all seems normal. All other onRev servers reportedly weren't affected. Thanks, too, to runrev (or the hosting company, or both!) for rectifying things. Jim Lambert From bvlahos at mac.com Tue Apr 6 00:36:44 2010 From: bvlahos at mac.com (Bill Vlahos) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:36:44 -0700 Subject: Why is ComboBox button never transparent? Message-ID: <4AB2FBDE-B885-424B-A75B-6567057E8704@mac.com> Regardless of the Opaque setting, a ComboBox button is never transparent. Is this a bug or is there some other way I can make the button transparent? Bill Vlahos _________________ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. From massung at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 00:38:44 2010 From: massung at gmail.com (Jeffrey Massung) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 23:38:44 -0500 Subject: Grouping cloned objects Message-ID: Sorry if this is in the documentation and I just haven't seen it, but... I have a group of objects that - at runtime, I'll be cloning. Simple enough, but when I clone it, I'd also like to add some objects to the group, but I haven't found any simple way of adding objects to an already existing group via code at runtime. Is there a simple way of doing this other than getting all the controls in the group, selecting them (and the new objects) and regrouping the controls? Thanks! Jeff M. From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Tue Apr 6 01:03:09 2010 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 00:03:09 -0500 Subject: Grouping cloned objects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BBAC08D.40606@hyperactivesw.com> Jeffrey Massung wrote: > Sorry if this is in the documentation and I just haven't seen it, > but... > > I have a group of objects that - at runtime, I'll be cloning. Simple > enough, but when I clone it, I'd also like to add some objects to the > group, but I haven't found any simple way of adding objects to an > already existing group via code at runtime. > > Is there a simple way of doing this other than getting all the > controls in the group, selecting them (and the new objects) and > regrouping the controls? If it's an existing object: copy to grp i.e.: copy btn "example" to grp 1 If you need a new control: create in group i.e.: create btn "example" in grp "clonedGroup" -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com From rene.micout at numericable.com Tue Apr 6 03:50:26 2010 From: rene.micout at numericable.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Micout?=) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 09:50:26 +0200 Subject: Need someone with knowlege of sound files In-Reply-To: <5F87FC5A-C97A-47B6-8DC5-9556DF902788@aol.com> References: <5F87FC5A-C97A-47B6-8DC5-9556DF902788@aol.com> Message-ID: Hello Fred, I am also working on musical projects (like Exagofon : see > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9zRXi7D_lE) with RunRev. I use QuickTime Synthesizer to create sounds and notes with PlayCommand Agent X (on Macintosh OS X) of Jon Bettencourt (see Shakobox > Jacque LandMan Gay) I work also with Midi Files (work in progress... slowly...) and the principal sources or examples are : - pmd Keyboard (makeSmfLib library) > UDI 2002 > good stuffs here > http://homepage.mac.com/udi/stack/tool.html - http://www.kenjikojima.com/ - Midi Builder (Kurt Kaufman) > > Kurt ?? ;-) I made a little utilitary (stack named "SonMinimalMidi") to experiment sound directly in Midi by SMF (Standard Midi File), I can send it to you... Bons souvenirs de Paris Ren? Micout Le 6 avr. 2010 ? 00:34, Fred Moyer a ?crit : > Dear friends: > > I am looking for a Revolution programmer with experience at manipulating sound files -- -- for a several projects that I am working on. Also desired: knowledge of Quicktime and Midi. > > Any recommendations would be most welcome! Thanks. > > Fred Moyer > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From richmondmathewson at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 05:09:32 2010 From: richmondmathewson at gmail.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 12:09:32 +0300 Subject: Wildcard expressions and unicode ??? Message-ID: <4BBAFA4C.2030009@gmail.com> I suppose it was inevitable . . . :) As I wrote yesterday, I found out how to search for and replace unicode characters in a field: on mouseUp set the useUnicode to true if the unicodeText of fld "FIRST" contains (numToChar(57888) & numToChar(57999)) then get the unicodeText of fld "FIRST" replace (numToChar(57888) & numToChar(57999)) with (numToChar(57999) & numToChar(57888)) in it set the unicodeText of fld "FIRST" to it end if end mouseUp which is jolly good, as far as it goes . . . However; suppose I wish to search for all instances of numToChar(57888) in front of another unicode character and move them so that they are behind that unicode character . . . Let us imagine this sort of script: (where ? represents any, i.e. wildcard, unicode character) on mouseUp set the useUnicode to true if the unicodeText of fld "FIRST" contains (numToChar(57888) & ?) then get the unicodeText of fld "FIRST" replace (numToChar(57888) & ?)) with (? & numToChar(57888)) in it set the unicodeText of fld "FIRST" to it end if end mouseUp interestingly enough; on compiling in RunRev 4 it says that script is OK (mind you it says that about lots of script that, on attempting to run, throw a "bluey"), Well, Ha, Ha; it is OK insofar as it does nothing! From rene.micout at numericable.com Tue Apr 6 05:16:15 2010 From: rene.micout at numericable.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Micout?=) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:16:15 +0200 Subject: Need someone with knowlege of sound files In-Reply-To: <5F87FC5A-C97A-47B6-8DC5-9556DF902788@aol.com> References: <5F87FC5A-C97A-47B6-8DC5-9556DF902788@aol.com> Message-ID: <465055C5-9F77-4FCD-AB68-39F5FE4F91FE@numericable.com> Suite : About Midi builder (Kurt Kaufman) > http://download.cnet.com/MIDI-Builder/3000-2025_4-26677.html Bons souvenirs de Paris Ren? Le 6 avr. 2010 ? 00:34, Fred Moyer a ?crit : > Dear friends: > > I am looking for a Revolution programmer with experience at manipulating sound files -- -- for a several projects that I am working on. Also desired: knowledge of Quicktime and Midi. > > Any recommendations would be most welcome! Thanks. > > Fred Moyer > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Tue Apr 6 07:17:20 2010 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:17:20 +0200 Subject: Saving audioclips to a file as ... In-Reply-To: <4BB9874F.3090509@gmail.com> References: <4BB9874F.3090509@gmail.com> Message-ID: <04E3E7EF-67AC-4AAD-B011-08138FE14F66@economy-x-talk.com> Hi, Audioclips can't be exported, but videoclips can: put the text of vc "sleighbells.mpg" into url "binfile:path-to- video.mpg" Old chestnut indeed. I'd expect that fixing this bug is 5 minutes work. I wonder why this has to take more than 6 years. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development projects. Feel free to contact me for a quote. Op 5 apr 2010, om 08:46 heeft Richmond Mathewson het volgende geschreven: > This is an old chestnut that I remember mentioning about 6 years ago! > > RunRev has no audioClip or videoClip export facilities; a lack that > needs > to be remedied. From mikekann at yahoo.com Tue Apr 6 08:01:51 2010 From: mikekann at yahoo.com (Michael Kann) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 05:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Why is ComboBox button never transparent? In-Reply-To: <4AB2FBDE-B885-424B-A75B-6567057E8704@mac.com> Message-ID: <448050.17954.qm@web56704.mail.re3.yahoo.com> blendlevel --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Bill Vlahos wrote: > From: Bill Vlahos > Subject: Why is ComboBox button never transparent? > To: "How to use Revolution" > Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 11:36 PM > Regardless of the Opaque setting, a > ComboBox button is never transparent. Is this a bug or is > there some other way I can make the button transparent? > > Bill Vlahos > _________________ > InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about > keeping your important life information with you, > accessible, and secure. > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage > your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From ambassador at fourthworld.com Tue Apr 6 08:10:36 2010 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 05:10:36 -0700 Subject: Need someone with knowlege of sound files Message-ID: <4BBB24BC.9040808@fourthworld.com> Ren? Micout wrote: > I am also working on musical projects (like Exagofon : > see > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9zRXi7D_lE) with RunRev. That's a beautiful interface! I wish my French was better than it is, since I can understand only very little of that wonderful presentation. Do you have any materials on that app available in English? Great work, Ren?. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv From rene.micout at numericable.com Tue Apr 6 08:26:43 2010 From: rene.micout at numericable.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Micout?=) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:26:43 +0200 Subject: Need someone with knowlege of sound files In-Reply-To: <4BBB24BC.9040808@fourthworld.com> References: <4BBB24BC.9040808@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: Hello Richard, See this page in FaceBook : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Exagofon/243964086559 Some explanation in english. I do translate all stuff in english... But, the time... I do also continue to write the manual... The application continues to evolve, now there is 16 sort of "modules" and there is more adjustment for each module Bons souvenirs de Paris Ren? Le 6 avr. 2010 ? 14:10, Richard Gaskin a ?crit : > Ren? Micout wrote: > > > I am also working on musical projects (like Exagofon : > > see > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9zRXi7D_lE) with RunRev. > > That's a beautiful interface! > > I wish my French was better than it is, since I can understand only very little of that wonderful presentation. > > Do you have any materials on that app available in English? > > Great work, Ren?. > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World > Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com > Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com > revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From pmbrig at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 07:57:40 2010 From: pmbrig at gmail.com (Peter Brigham MD) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:57:40 -0400 Subject: Wildcard expressions and unicode ??? In-Reply-To: <4BBAFA4C.2030009@gmail.com> References: <4BBAFA4C.2030009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4699F490-CDE8-4D2A-A687-C47587FFB1FF@gmail.com> Try this? Untested but should work. (The untested part is the first handler -- the offsets() function I have been using for years.) on mouseup set the useUnicode to true put numtochar(57888) into targetChar put the unicodetext of fld "FIRST" into uText put offsets(targetChar,uText) into offsetList if offsetList = 0 then exit mouseup repeat for each item i in offsetList put char i+1 of uText & targetChar into \ char i to i+1 of uText end repeat set the unicodetext of fld "FIRST" to uText end mouseup function offsets str,cntr -- returns a comma-delimited list -- of all the offsets of str in cntr if str is not in cntr then return 0 put "" into offsetList put 0 into startPoint repeat put offset(str,cntr,startPoint) into thisOffset if thisOffset = 0 then exit repeat add thisOffset to startPoint put startPoint & comma after offsetList end repeat delete last char of offsetList return offsetList end offsets -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmbrig at gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On Apr 6, 2010, at 5:09 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > I suppose it was inevitable . . . :) > > As I wrote yesterday, I found out how to search for and replace > unicode characters > in a field: > > on mouseUp > set the useUnicode to true > if the unicodeText of fld "FIRST" contains (numToChar(57888) & > numToChar(57999)) then > get the unicodeText of fld "FIRST" > replace (numToChar(57888) & numToChar(57999)) with > (numToChar(57999) & numToChar(57888)) in it > set the unicodeText of fld "FIRST" to it > end if > end mouseUp > > which is jolly good, as far as it goes . . . > > However; suppose I wish to search for all instances of > numToChar(57888) in front of another unicode character > and move them so that they are behind that unicode character . . . > > Let us imagine this sort of script: (where ? represents any, i.e. > wildcard, unicode character) > > on mouseUp > set the useUnicode to true > if the unicodeText of fld "FIRST" contains (numToChar(57888) & ?) > then > get the unicodeText of fld "FIRST" > replace (numToChar(57888) & ?)) with (? & numToChar(57888)) in it > set the unicodeText of fld "FIRST" to it > end if > end mouseUp > > interestingly enough; on compiling in RunRev 4 it says that script > is OK (mind you it says that > about lots of script that, on attempting to run, throw a "bluey"), > > Well, Ha, Ha; it is OK insofar as it does nothing! > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From kevin at stallibrass.com Tue Apr 6 09:18:36 2010 From: kevin at stallibrass.com (Kevin Stallibrass) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:18:36 +0100 Subject: Creating files on on-rev Message-ID: <003801cad58b$ab123cb0$0136b610$@com> On Kevin's on-rev how to videos, he uses put something after URL "file:log.txt" which is apparently meant to create a text file on the server. I've tried it but no such file appears anywhere. He goes on to use this when sending mail (which is what I'm attempting to do) but I'm unable to test the mail as the original file is not created. I'm aware of issues others have had sending mail I don't understand the syntax for this URL - is it right? Or perhaps my configuration (Freyr) is wrong? regards Kevin Stallibrass From mikekann at yahoo.com Tue Apr 6 09:55:31 2010 From: mikekann at yahoo.com (Michael Kann) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 06:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Creating files on on-rev In-Reply-To: <003801cad58b$ab123cb0$0136b610$@com> Message-ID: <581184.96631.qm@web56703.mail.re3.yahoo.com> With the file a.irev on the server we can make a file appear by typing http://taishan.on-rev.com/a.irev in your browser. ----------------------- -- a.irev on server ----------------------- ------------------------ -- address in browser http://taishan.on-rev.com/a.irev ------------------------ Might that be what you are interested in doing? BTW, where are those how-to's by Kevin? Mike --- On Tue, 4/6/10, Kevin Stallibrass wrote: > From: Kevin Stallibrass > Subject: Creating files on on-rev > To: use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 8:18 AM > On Kevin's on-rev how to videos, he > uses > > > > put something after URL "file:log.txt" > > > > which is apparently meant to create a text file on the > server. I've tried it > but no such file appears anywhere. > > He goes on to use this when sending mail (which is what I'm > attempting to > do) but I'm unable to test the mail as the original file is > not created. I'm > aware of issues others have had sending mail > > I don't understand the syntax for this URL - is it right? > Or perhaps my > configuration (Freyr) is wrong? > > > > regards > > > > Kevin Stallibrass > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage > your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From richmondmathewson at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 09:57:32 2010 From: richmondmathewson at gmail.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:57:32 +0300 Subject: Wildcard expressions and unicode ??? In-Reply-To: <4699F490-CDE8-4D2A-A687-C47587FFB1FF@gmail.com> References: <4BBAFA4C.2030009@gmail.com> <4699F490-CDE8-4D2A-A687-C47587FFB1FF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BBB3DCC.9070705@gmail.com> On 06/04/2010 14:57, Peter Brigham MD wrote: > Try this? Untested but should work. (The untested part is the first > handler -- the offsets() function I have been using for years.) > > on mouseup > set the useUnicode to true > put numtochar(57888) into targetChar > put the unicodetext of fld "FIRST" into uText > put offsets(targetChar,uText) into offsetList > if offsetList = 0 then exit mouseup > repeat for each item i in offsetList > put char i+1 of uText & targetChar into \ > char i to i+1 of uText > end repeat > set the unicodetext of fld "FIRST" to uText > end mouseup > > function offsets str,cntr > -- returns a comma-delimited list > -- of all the offsets of str in cntr > if str is not in cntr then return 0 > put "" into offsetList > put 0 into startPoint > repeat > put offset(str,cntr,startPoint) into thisOffset > if thisOffset = 0 then exit repeat > add thisOffset to startPoint > put startPoint & comma after offsetList > end repeat > delete last char of offsetList > return offsetList > end offsets > > -- Peter > Thank you very much; I'll give it a try. From bvg at mac.com Tue Apr 6 10:09:33 2010 From: bvg at mac.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rnke_von_Gierke?=) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:09:33 +0200 Subject: Creating files on on-rev In-Reply-To: <003801cad58b$ab123cb0$0136b610$@com> References: <003801cad58b$ab123cb0$0136b610$@com> Message-ID: <9057F5CB-85EB-4D05-BD8E-C5643A451F44@mac.com> Check for permissions. Like most web servers, the on-rev server uses the unix style permission system. So, to write a file anywhere, you need to give permission to the running processes owner ("user" in unix-speak) for the folder you want to write stuff to. Otherwise the write will fail. Sometimes there is an error log entry, or something returned to rev in "the result", but not always. The easiest way to make sure permissions are not a problem, is to set the whole folder to writeable for "everyone". Depending on what kind of syntax your ftp client uses, that'd be "-rw-rw-rw-" or "666". Be aware that giving permission to "everyone" can result in a security problem, depending on what your site does. Note that files containing rev- or other kinds of server side code in them would need to have the executable bit set for the "owner" user, and maybe also the group. To set the permission of your folder to be writeable by everyone, you must log in with a ftp client who supports the feature of setting permissions (most do). I use "cyberduck" for ftp on mac os x, because one can use it without paying. For a more detailed explanation about what unix file permission do, check this wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_permissions Have fun Bj?rnke On 6 Apr 2010, at 15:18, Kevin Stallibrass wrote: > On Kevin's on-rev how to videos, he uses > put something after URL "file:log.txt" > > ... > > I don't understand the syntax for this URL - is it right? Or perhaps my > configuration (Freyr) is wrong? -- official ChatRev page: http://bjoernke.com?target=chatrev Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL "http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev" From richmondmathewson at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 12:27:46 2010 From: richmondmathewson at gmail.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 19:27:46 +0300 Subject: Wildcard expressions and unicode ??? In-Reply-To: <4699F490-CDE8-4D2A-A687-C47587FFB1FF@gmail.com> References: <4BBAFA4C.2030009@gmail.com> <4699F490-CDE8-4D2A-A687-C47587FFB1FF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BBB6102.4030003@gmail.com> On 06/04/2010 14:57, Peter Brigham MD wrote: > Try this? Untested but should work. (The untested part is the first > handler -- the offsets() function I have been using for years.) > > on mouseup > set the useUnicode to true > put numtochar(57888) into targetChar > put the unicodetext of fld "FIRST" into uText > put offsets(targetChar,uText) into offsetList > if offsetList = 0 then exit mouseup > repeat for each item i in offsetList > put char i+1 of uText & targetChar into \ > char i to i+1 of uText > end repeat > set the unicodetext of fld "FIRST" to uText > end mouseup > > function offsets str,cntr > -- returns a comma-delimited list > -- of all the offsets of str in cntr > if str is not in cntr then return 0 > put "" into offsetList > put 0 into startPoint > repeat > put offset(str,cntr,startPoint) into thisOffset > if thisOffset = 0 then exit repeat > add thisOffset to startPoint > put startPoint & comma after offsetList > end repeat > delete last char of offsetList > return offsetList > end offsets > Unfortunately does not work, but in my fld "FIRST", which initially contains 4 unicode chars, outputs 2 unicode chars. Probably something to do with the fact that those are 4 double-byte chars. This is where "Keeps Death his court and there the antic sits"; the antic being the problem with double-byte characters: "Scoffing his state and grinning at his pomp, Allowing him a breath, a little scene, To monarchize, be fear'd and kill with looks," and mysen fair forjeskit . . . :( an blackafrontit tae! whit a scunner. I was monarchizin a bit, so pleased with my unicode "exchange" script, but the antic (as usual) scoffed most effectively at my self-assumed pomp. From ambassador at fourthworld.com Tue Apr 6 12:47:05 2010 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 09:47:05 -0700 Subject: Desktop innovation? Future of the desktop? Message-ID: <4BBB6589.60602@fourthworld.com> Peter Alcibiades wrote: > I don't use gnome, and preferred kde 3.5 to 4.x, and fluxbox to both of > them, but evidently some are really really enthusiastic about the > innovation which Gnome 3 supposedly represents. > > Gnome enthusiasts like Richard G may find this interesting. > > Peter > > http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=1405&tag=leftCol;post-1405 Way cool. Thanks for posting that, Peter. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv From massung at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 13:02:25 2010 From: massung at gmail.com (Jeff Massung) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:02:25 -0500 Subject: Altering custom properties Message-ID: Is there a simple way of just changing a chunk in a custom property without fetching, changing, and resetting it? For example, let's say I have a custom property "cTest" that has "1,2,3,4,5,6" in it, and I'd like to make item 3 of cTest "***" instead. I can't do either of the following: set item 3 of the cTest of btn "foo" to "***" put "***" into item 3 of the cTest of btn "foo" I know I can do: get the cTest of btn "foo" put "***" into item 3 of it set the cTest of btn "foo" to it But I'm just hoping there's a nicer shortcut for me to use instead. ;-) Jeff M. From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Tue Apr 6 13:08:41 2010 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 19:08:41 +0200 Subject: Altering custom properties In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Jeff, You could create a custom property set with cTest[1] = 1 cTest[2] = 2 cTest[3] = 3 etc. This would allow you to change cTest[3] as follows: set the cTest[3] of me to "***" -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development projects. Feel free to contact me for a quote. Op 6 apr 2010, om 19:02 heeft Jeff Massung het volgende geschreven: > Is there a simple way of just changing a chunk in a custom property > without > fetching, changing, and resetting it? For example, let's say I have > a custom > property "cTest" that has "1,2,3,4,5,6" in it, and I'd like to make > item 3 > of cTest "***" instead. > > I can't do either of the following: > > set item 3 of the cTest of btn "foo" to "***" > put "***" into item 3 of the cTest of btn "foo" > > I know I can do: > > get the cTest of btn "foo" > put "***" into item 3 of it > set the cTest of btn "foo" to it > > But I'm just hoping there's a nicer shortcut for me to use > instead. ;-) > > Jeff M. From DunbarX at aol.com Tue Apr 6 13:39:20 2010 From: DunbarX at aol.com (DunbarX at aol.com) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:39:20 EDT Subject: Altering custom properties Message-ID: <3623d.1bd2b56c.38eccbc8@aol.com> Jeff. Do you mean "can I do this in less than one line of code?" Craig Newman From david at vaudevillecourt.tv Tue Apr 6 13:44:51 2010 From: david at vaudevillecourt.tv (David Bovill) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:44:51 +0100 Subject: sqlYoga: sqlite primary key and a few detailed questions Message-ID: I've had some time to start implementing the local handler database in sqlYoga: and have noticed a couple of things: 1. An sqlite table "handler" db with a field "id" set as a primary key does not show in the db schema of sqlYoga. Do I have to script this using something ike "sqlrecord_set theRecordA, "id", theProjectID" - and if so using a model behavior called when the table is created? 2. How do I delete multiple records - can;t find an example to learn from - I'm trying something along the lines of: -- put "id is in :1" into theParamsA ["conditions"] -- put "1,2" into theParamsA ["condition bindings"]["1"] put "handler.object is ':1'" into theParamsA ["conditions"] put someObject into theParamsA ["condition bindings"]["1"] sqlrecord_find "handler", theParamsA, theRecordsA sqlrecord_delete theRecordA But I'm only getting one record returned in theRecordsA. Does anyone have a code snippet for deleting multiple records? I'd also love to know a little about how to pass the arrays around between "objects" - I'm digging into the innards of the arrays now, but it would be great to have some more examples? Like how do you take an array from sqlquery_X and use it with sqlrecord_ Finally in the example below: put sqlrecord_createObject("projects") into theRecordA > > ## Fill in primary key field for 'projects' > sqlrecord_set theRecordA, "id", theProjectID > > ## Delete record > sqlrecord_delete theRecordA put the result into theError > does - "sqlrecord_set theRecordA, "id", theProjectID" really set the primary key - it is not in the API documentation, or is it something specific to the record object? From shani.runrev at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 13:54:28 2010 From: shani.runrev at gmail.com (Shani) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 19:54:28 +0200 Subject: Java Socket read problem Message-ID: HI, I have problem with the revcode. It cant display This result. Server Started Client Syas: AllowServer I start the process then write "AllowServer" as a client but it cant work. Kindly tell me on which line is the problem, Java program is working. Th eproblem is rev side. StartProcessButton ################################################3 on mouseUp local tDefaultFolder, tProcess -- put the defaultFolder into tDefaultFolder set the defaultFolder to StackPath() -- put "java Server 54321" into tProcess open process tProcess for neither -- set the defaultFolder to tDefaultFolder end mouseUp ########################################## Socketbutton ########################################### on mouseUp local tDefaultFolder, tResult, tSocket -- put ("localhost:54321") into tSocket open socket tSocket write "AllowServer" & return to socket tResult answer tResult end mouseUp ############################################ function StackPath local tPath -- put the effective filename of this stack into tPath set the itemDelimiter to slash delete item -1 of tPath -- return tPath end StackPath Java coding: import java.io.DataInputStream; import java.io.IOException; import java.net.ServerSocket; import java.net.Socket; public class Server { public static void main (String[] args) throws IOException{ ServerSocket server=new ServerSocket(54321); System.out.println("Server Started"); Socket client= server.accept(); DataInputStream in= new DataInputStream(client.getInputStream()); System.out.println("Client Syas: " + in.readUTF()); } } You can see the example on this link: http://www.4shared.com/file/258393507/808220ec/javaServer.html Regards, SHANI From massung at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 13:55:37 2010 From: massung at gmail.com (Jeff Massung) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:55:37 -0500 Subject: Altering custom properties In-Reply-To: <3623d.1bd2b56c.38eccbc8@aol.com> References: <3623d.1bd2b56c.38eccbc8@aol.com> Message-ID: Well, I'm shooting for less than 3, but less than 1 would be very cool, too. ;-) On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:39 PM, wrote: > Jeff. > > Do you mean "can I do this in less than one line of code?" > > From DunbarX at aol.com Tue Apr 6 13:57:15 2010 From: DunbarX at aol.com (DunbarX at aol.com) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:57:15 EDT Subject: Altering custom properties Message-ID: <3773f.35617e34.38eccffb@aol.com> Jeff. But you wrote several one-liners yourself. I am missing something. Craig In a message dated 4/6/10 1:55:43 PM, massung at gmail.com writes: > Well, I'm shooting for less than 3, but less than 1 would be very cool, > too. > From zryip.theslug at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 14:01:34 2010 From: zryip.theslug at gmail.com (zryip theSlug) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:01:34 +0200 Subject: MouseMove - Moving a stack brutally stops when the decoration change Message-ID: Hi all, When I worked on my color picker, I met a behavior that surprised me. To dock / undock the picker with the RR tools palette I'm using an mouseMove handler. When the picker palette is inside or outside the tools palette the titlebar of the picker appears / disappears. For that, I change the decorations property of the stack. However the fact to change the decorations of a stack, brutally stops the move. It seems that the mouseMove handler stops to track correctly the handler If you want to test this behavior, simply create a new stack, then copy this script into the card or the stack script. local lCounter on mouseMove if (the mouse is down) then add 1 to lCounter if (lCounter = 10) then set the decorations of this stack to empty put 0 into lCounter else if (lCounter = 1) then set the decorations of this stack to default end if set the loc of this stack to globalLoc(the mouseLoc) end if end mouseMove I need your opinion. Is it a bug? Or maybe, do you know a better way to do that? TIA Regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc From massung at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 14:02:09 2010 From: massung at gmail.com (Jeff Massung) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:02:09 -0500 Subject: Altering custom properties In-Reply-To: <3773f.35617e34.38eccffb@aol.com> References: <3773f.35617e34.38eccffb@aol.com> Message-ID: I wrote several 1-liners that don't compile [as examples of what I'd like to be able to do]. On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:57 PM, wrote: > Jeff. > > But you wrote several one-liners yourself. I am missing something. > > From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Tue Apr 6 14:03:51 2010 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:03:51 -0500 Subject: Altering custom properties In-Reply-To: References: <3623d.1bd2b56c.38eccbc8@aol.com> Message-ID: <4BBB7787.8050800@hyperactivesw.com> Jeff Massung wrote: > Well, I'm shooting for less than 3, but less than 1 would be very cool, too. > ;-) Well, this: on mouseup end mouseup It's less than one line of code, although I admit it doen't do much. :) For your original question, no, there's no shorter way to do it. You have to get, change, set the property. The only way to make it a semi-one-liner is to write a custom function that does all that, and then just call your function. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Tue Apr 6 14:07:15 2010 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:07:15 +0200 Subject: Altering custom properties In-Reply-To: References: <3773f.35617e34.38eccffb@aol.com> Message-ID: <28F08CC9-B9F0-43E9-B316-B7AEAC108BD5@economy-x-talk.com> Jeff, What's wrong with the solution I proposed? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development projects. Feel free to contact me for a quote. Op 6 apr 2010, om 20:02 heeft Jeff Massung het volgende geschreven: > I wrote several 1-liners that don't compile [as examples of what I'd > like to > be able to do]. > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:57 PM, wrote: > >> Jeff. >> >> But you wrote several one-liners yourself. I am missing something. From revdev at pdslabs.net Tue Apr 6 14:10:25 2010 From: revdev at pdslabs.net (Phil Davis) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:10:25 -0700 Subject: Java Socket read problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BBB7911.4040505@pdslabs.net> Comment inserted below - On 4/6/10 10:54 AM, Shani wrote: > HI, > > I have problem with the revcode. It cant display > > This result. > Server Started > Client Syas: AllowServer > > > I start the process then write "AllowServer" as a client but it cant work. > > Kindly tell me on which line is the problem, > Java program is working. Th eproblem is rev side. > > StartProcessButton > ################################################3 > on mouseUp > local tDefaultFolder, tProcess > -- > put the defaultFolder into tDefaultFolder > set the defaultFolder to StackPath() > -- > put "java Server 54321" into tProcess > open process tProcess for neither > -- > set the defaultFolder to tDefaultFolder > end mouseUp > ########################################## > > > Socketbutton > ########################################### > on mouseUp > local tDefaultFolder, tResult, tSocket > -- > put ("localhost:54321") into tSocket > > open socket tSocket > write "AllowServer"& return to socket tResult > The above line should say: write "AllowServer"& return to socket tSocket There may be other things, but this one caught my eye. Phil Davis > answer tResult > > end mouseUp > ############################################ > > function StackPath > local tPath > -- > put the effective filename of this stack into tPath > set the itemDelimiter to slash > delete item -1 of tPath > -- > return tPath > end StackPath > > > > > > > Java coding: > > import java.io.DataInputStream; > import java.io.IOException; > import java.net.ServerSocket; > import java.net.Socket; > public class Server { > public static void main (String[] args) throws IOException{ > ServerSocket server=new ServerSocket(54321); > System.out.println("Server Started"); > Socket client= server.accept(); > DataInputStream in= new DataInputStream(client.getInputStream()); > > System.out.println("Client Syas: " + in.readUTF()); > } > } > > > > You can see the example on this link: > http://www.4shared.com/file/258393507/808220ec/javaServer.html > > > Regards, > SHANI > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net From DunbarX at aol.com Tue Apr 6 14:15:12 2010 From: DunbarX at aol.com (DunbarX at aol.com) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:15:12 EDT Subject: Altering custom properties Message-ID: <38bb2.1ace177b.38ecd430@aol.com> Jeff: Ah. Forgot about that, and I had a heated discussion with someone on the HC list decades ago about this very thing. You cannot set chunks of a property, even a built-in one. He wanted to be able to change the script of an object in just the way you want to change a custom property (he had a self modifying code need). He wanted to put something into line 39 or whatever of the script of an object. I explained that scripts were properties, not containers. You had to put the whole property into a container first, then fool around with it, then set. We worked it out. Maybe this could be a feature request? Unless there is something about the way the engine treats properties, like HC, that precludes it. Craig From DunbarX at aol.com Tue Apr 6 14:15:58 2010 From: DunbarX at aol.com (DunbarX at aol.com) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:15:58 EDT Subject: Altering custom properties Message-ID: <38c91.4408ab29.38ecd45e@aol.com> Mark. Too long. Craig In a message dated 4/6/10 2:07:22 PM, m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com writes: > What's wrong with the solution I proposed? > > From massung at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 14:25:57 2010 From: massung at gmail.com (Jeff Massung) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:25:57 -0500 Subject: Altering custom properties In-Reply-To: <28F08CC9-B9F0-43E9-B316-B7AEAC108BD5@economy-x-talk.com> References: <3773f.35617e34.38eccffb@aol.com> <28F08CC9-B9F0-43E9-B316-B7AEAC108BD5@economy-x-talk.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com> wrote: > Jeff, > > What's wrong with the solution I proposed? Nothing at all. In fact, I ended up doing something similar based on your idea and it worked great. ;-) Jeff M. From david at opntech.com Tue Apr 6 15:09:23 2010 From: david at opntech.com (David Bovill) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:09:23 +0100 Subject: sqlYoga: failing to do simple record deletion? Message-ID: What am I doing wrong - must be something simple and obvious, but I can't figure out how to delete records, I'm adding them OK - but somewhere in the stew is a bug stopping me deleting them. This is what I do: on hdb_DeleteHandler > put GetSelectedID() into handlerID > > put sqlrecord_CreateObject ("handler") into theRecordA > sqlrecord_set theRecordA, "id", handlerID > sqlrecord_delete theRecordA > put the result into someError > > display_HkeyDataBase > end hdb_DeleteHandler > On a simple "handler" table with fields "id,name,type,object,number" - and column id - = "id" set as a primary key (set up using SQLite Manager for FireFox). I get no error in someError, but running the same old display queries on the db displays no changes. "sqlrecord_delte" does actually delete records from the database on disk - or am I missing something? What should I check for in terms of debugging? From stephenREVOLUTION2 at barncard.com Tue Apr 6 15:36:37 2010 From: stephenREVOLUTION2 at barncard.com (stephen barncard) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:36:37 -0700 Subject: Saving audioclips to a file as ... In-Reply-To: <04E3E7EF-67AC-4AAD-B011-08138FE14F66@economy-x-talk.com> References: <4BB9874F.3090509@gmail.com> <04E3E7EF-67AC-4AAD-B011-08138FE14F66@economy-x-talk.com> Message-ID: I've added my votes and a comment to Quality Center: Report #8134 Export audioclip object Last Modified: 2009-06-26 22:09:41 and Report #6375 Extend Icon/Image References to Include Binary Data in Custom Properties Last Modified: 2010-04-06 11:32:40 I added audioclips to this idea. sqb On 6 April 2010 04:17, Mark Schonewille wrote: > Hi, > > Audioclips can't be exported, but videoclips can: > > put the text of vc "sleighbells.mpg" into url "binfile:path-to-video.mpg" > > Old chestnut indeed. I'd expect that fixing this bug is 5 minutes work. I > wonder why this has to take more than 6 years. > > > -- > Best regards, > > Mark Schonewille > > Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering > Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com > Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer > > Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development projects. > Feel free to contact me for a quote. > > Op 5 apr 2010, om 08:46 heeft Richmond Mathewson het volgende geschreven: > > > This is an old chestnut that I remember mentioning about 6 years ago! >> >> RunRev has no audioClip or videoClip export facilities; a lack that needs >> to be remedied. >> > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- ------------------------- Stephen Barncard Back home in SF From jmyepes at mac.com Tue Apr 6 17:07:37 2010 From: jmyepes at mac.com (JosepM) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:07:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Datagrid: How get column data from other column behavior Message-ID: <1270588057741-1753513.post@n4.nabble.com> Hi, I need to customize one column behavior in function of the data of other column. How can get the value of the other column from the script of the behavior for the column? Any idea? Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Datagrid-How-get-column-data-from-other-column-behavior-tp1753513p1753513.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From sarah.reichelt at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 19:09:40 2010 From: sarah.reichelt at gmail.com (Sarah Reichelt) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:09:40 +1000 Subject: Creating files on on-rev In-Reply-To: <003801cad58b$ab123cb0$0136b610$@com> References: <003801cad58b$ab123cb0$0136b610$@com> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Kevin Stallibrass wrote: > On Kevin's on-rev how to videos, he uses > > put something after URL "file:log.txt" > > which is apparently meant to create a text file on the server. I've tried it > but no such file appears anywhere. It depends where the script is. If this command is used from an irev file on the server, then it will work fine as is. If it is on your computer, then you need to use ftp commands and supply a user name & password, e.g. put something into URL ("ftp:" & username & ":" & password & "@myname.on-rev.com/folder/log.txt") While this is a permissions problem, I would not recommend Bj?rnke's solution of just opening access to your folder. Cheers, Sarah From bvlahos at mac.com Tue Apr 6 19:48:09 2010 From: bvlahos at mac.com (Bill Vlahos) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:48:09 -0700 Subject: Why is ComboBox button never transparent? In-Reply-To: <448050.17954.qm@web56704.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <448050.17954.qm@web56704.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Excellent! I set the blendlevel ink from srcCopy (the default) to scrAnd and it looks correct. It seems like this is a bug. Bill Vlahos _________________ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. On Apr 6, 2010, at 5:01 AM, Michael Kann wrote: > blendlevel > > --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Bill Vlahos wrote: > >> From: Bill Vlahos >> Subject: Why is ComboBox button never transparent? >> To: "How to use Revolution" >> Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 11:36 PM >> Regardless of the Opaque setting, a >> ComboBox button is never transparent. Is this a bug or is >> there some other way I can make the button transparent? >> >> Bill Vlahos >> _________________ >> InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about >> keeping your important life information with you, >> accessible, and secure. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage >> your subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From zryip.theslug at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 20:14:46 2010 From: zryip.theslug at gmail.com (zryip theSlug) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 02:14:46 +0200 Subject: MouseMove - Moving a stack brutally stops when the decoration change In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2010/4/6 zryip theSlug : None opinion or advice? Really nobody? Thanks ;) -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc From davidocoker at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 20:14:49 2010 From: davidocoker at gmail.com (David Coker) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 19:14:49 -0500 Subject: Trapping the escape key inside a loop Message-ID: Howdy folks, Scratching my head in wonderment again, trying to figure out why I can't trap the escape key. Here is a sample script that I've been playing with outside of my real app that is pretty close to the real thing: global gStop on mouseUp put 0 into gStop do ThisHandler do ThatHandler repeat with i = 1 to 10000 if gStop = 1 then exit repeat do some useful work here exit repeat do CleanUpRoutine end mouseUp I've tried the following handler at the button level, the card level and the stack level, yet can't for the life of me, get it to break the repeat loop using a simple flag method. on escapeKey put 1 into gStop end escapeKey I can easily trap the escape key anywhere outside of the loop with no problems, but I'm obviously missing something while in the loop. Any help out there? Best regards, David C. From sarah.reichelt at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 20:21:39 2010 From: sarah.reichelt at gmail.com (Sarah Reichelt) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:21:39 +1000 Subject: Trapping the escape key inside a loop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:14 AM, David Coker wrote: > Howdy folks, > Scratching my head in wonderment again, trying to figure out why I > can't trap the escape key. > Here is a sample script that I've been playing with outside of my real > app that is pretty close to the real thing: > > global gStop > > on mouseUp > put 0 into gStop > do ThisHandler > do ThatHandler > ?repeat with i = 1 to 10000 > ? ?if gStop = 1 then exit repeat > ? ? ?do some useful work here > ?exit repeat > do CleanUpRoutine > end mouseUp You have to give your repeat loop a break so the system has time to detect the escape key. Try this: global gStop on mouseUp put false into gStop repeat with x = 1 to 1000 put x into fld 1 if gStop = true then exit repeat wait 0 milliseconds with messages -- allows detection of other events end repeat end mouseUp And in the card or stack script: global gStop on escapeKey put true into gStop end escapeKey Cheers, Sarah From sarah.reichelt at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 20:24:49 2010 From: sarah.reichelt at gmail.com (Sarah Reichelt) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:24:49 +1000 Subject: MouseMove - Moving a stack brutally stops when the decoration change In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > To dock / undock the picker with the RR tools palette I'm using an > mouseMove handler. When the picker palette is inside or outside the > tools palette the titlebar of the picker appears / disappears. For > that, I change the decorations property of the stack. > > However the fact to change the decorations of a stack, brutally stops > the move. It seems that the mouseMove handler stops to track correctly > the handler Confirmed - very strange. The only workaround I can think of is to set the decorations once only, in a mouseUp handler, instead of setting them as you move. Cheers, Sarah From zryip.theslug at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 21:16:19 2010 From: zryip.theslug at gmail.com (zryip theSlug) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 03:16:19 +0200 Subject: MouseMove - Moving a stack brutally stops when the decoration change In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2010/4/7 Sarah Reichelt : >> To dock / undock the picker with the RR tools palette I'm using an >> mouseMove handler. When the picker palette is inside or outside the >> tools palette the titlebar of the picker appears / disappears. For >> that, I change the decorations property of the stack. >> >> However the fact to change the decorations of a stack, brutally stops >> the move. It seems that the mouseMove handler stops to track correctly >> the handler > > > Confirmed - very strange. > > The only workaround I can think of is to set the decorations once > only, in a mouseUp handler, instead of setting them as you move. > > Cheers, > Sarah Thanks for your answer Sarah 8-) I create this quick mouseMove handler to simply test the behavior out of my picker code. This not really that I need to do ;) That I thought to do with the mouseMove is to give a friendly (I hope) interface to detach the palette. The palette waiting for a long click, then a hand cursor appears and the user can extract the picker by moving it out of the tools palette. The color picker becomes an independent palette with its own titlebar. When the user would like to dock the picker in the tool palette, he moves the picker somewhere inside the tools palette, the picker titlebar disappear and it is docked to the tools palette. It seems that all events are lost when the decoration change. It gives the feelings the picker received a mouseUp handler. This is the handler that I used to detect the long click on the palette: local lCounter command scanForMouseWithin if (the mouseLoc is within the rect of btn "MoveMask") then if (the mouse is down) then add 1 to lCounter if ((lCounter = 10) \ and (the mouseLoc is not within the rect of grp "ColorPickerGrp")\ and (there is not a stack "pickerDragControl")) then startMovingPicker --C end if else stopMovingPicker --C end if else stopMovingPicker --C end if send "scanForMouseWithin" to me in 80 milliseconds end scanForMouseWithin The handlers to manage this effect are too long for the list. You can eventually download the picker on my site and have a look to it. It will be more eloquent that my description, I think. -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc From davidocoker at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 22:02:07 2010 From: davidocoker at gmail.com (David Coker) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:02:07 -0500 Subject: Trapping the escape key inside a loop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > You have to give your repeat loop a break so the system has time to > detect the escape key. > Try this: > > global gStop > > on mouseUp > ? put false into gStop > ? repeat with x = 1 to 1000 > ? ? ?put x into fld 1 > ? ? ?if gStop = true then exit repeat > ? ? ?wait 0 milliseconds with messages ? -- allows detection of other events > ? end repeat > end mouseUp > > And in the card or stack script: > > global gStop > > on escapeKey > ? put true into gStop > end escapeKey Sarah, you are now my absolute hero! (or heroine as the case may be). Heroine: "...a woman of distinguished courage or ability, admired for her brave deeds and noble qualities" I had stared out using the false/true combo and got no place fast, so I move to the numerical flag attempt in an act of not knowing what else to try. Unfortunately, I never even thought about placing a wait message inside the loop. It works great now. Awesome!!! Thank you very much! David C. From palcibiades-first at yahoo.co.uk Wed Apr 7 02:40:45 2010 From: palcibiades-first at yahoo.co.uk (Peter Alcibiades) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:40:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Desktop innovation? Future of the desktop? In-Reply-To: <4BBB6589.60602@fourthworld.com> References: <4BBB6589.60602@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: <1270622445186-1753934.post@n4.nabble.com> There's real innovation, for better or worse, going on in Linux desktops in the last year or two. KDE4 made an effort to redefine the desktop metaphor, its probably just about usable now, and now Gnome from a different starting point. Its a bit lost on me, perhaps its a matter of age. Simplicity and bareness become more attractive, not just in computing, and I find a lot to be said for OpenBox in desktop, or WMII. But its very much a minority view. Gnome and KDE are a lot freer to take risks than either MS or Apple, and they are taking advantage of that. I don't know that you would like the latest KDE, but its worth looking at as an example of innovation in this area. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Re-Desktop-innovation-Future-of-the-desktop-tp1753084p1753934.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From richmondmathewson at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 04:32:46 2010 From: richmondmathewson at gmail.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 11:32:46 +0300 Subject: Desktop innovation? Future of the desktop? In-Reply-To: <1270622445186-1753934.post@n4.nabble.com> References: <4BBB6589.60602@fourthworld.com> <1270622445186-1753934.post@n4.nabble.com> Message-ID: <4BBC432E.7080705@gmail.com> On 07/04/2010 09:40, Peter Alcibiades wrote: > There's real innovation, for better or worse, going on in Linux desktops in > the last year or two. KDE4 made an effort to redefine the desktop metaphor, > its probably just about usable now, and now Gnome from a different starting > point. Its a bit lost on me, perhaps its a matter of age. Simplicity and > bareness become more attractive, not just in computing, and I find a lot to > be said for OpenBox in desktop, or WMII. But its very much a minority view. > > Gnome and KDE are a lot freer to take risks than either MS or Apple, and > they are taking advantage of that. I don't know that you would like the > latest KDE, but its worth looking at as an example of innovation in this > area. To be honest, I find that the Mac desktop, the Windows desktop, and all the Linux desktops "out there" are always 75% of what I would have liked. From my personal point of view I like GNOME (as it stands = 2.3) as it can be hacked about in all sorts of ways to get 99% of what I feel comfortable using. Apart from a whole slew of things I dislike about Windows, the fact that the desktop is a "one size fits all" really gets my goat. I don't dislike Mac, but, again, the lack of hackability of the desktop is a bu**er. In an ideal world (Ha, Ha,Ha!) I would probably have some sort of hacked GNOME floating around on top of Mac OS X. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bi*chy bit follows . . . ----------------------------------------------------------------- As Open Source 'alternatives' have matured I have moved to using them almost exclusively on my PPC Mac. Sooner or later (Please, please, a lot later) this machine will go 'pop' and I will have to rob the bank to get a new machine. The MAIN reason I would keep with Macintosh is that RunRev for Linux looks as though it is "dying a death"; and in its present incarnation is a very poor second to its Windows and Macintosh cousins. ----------------------------------------------------------------- The same goes for RunRev: the standard GUI is 85% for me (the glaring white of the Menubar and the Tool palette really annoy me); so I always fiddle around with a new install until I arrive at something that serves my needs. The first thing I do is change the background colour of the Menubar and the Tool palette to a charcoal-grey; then I start adding little buttons to make the Menubar move off-screen and back, park the Tool palette somewhere other than its default poz, and so on. It always gives me great pleasure to do this, and I always think appreciatively of the folk in Edinburgh for giving us a GUI we CAN mess about with (well, except for RevMedia) . . . :) At present, my Ubuntu "rig" (i.e. my production machine rather than the ones that run in my school) has GNOME with Avast Window Navigator (looks like the Mac Dock before it went "all 3D"). I have fiddled with Nautilus so that my Home folder and the Rubbish Bin are visible on the desktop. ALL my windows have a textured, charcoal-grey background. http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/STUFF/RichmondDT.png This is the desktop that suits me; it may very well not suit anybody else; but that is the beauty of an open system - one can hack it about to suit one's needs. The whole world has suffered for far too long from "One-size-fits-all" solutions; religious tyranny, political tyranny and, now, desktop tyranny. I have always felt there is something about Steve Jobs and Bill Gates that is vaguely familiar, and now I know what it is; it is the paternalistic smile of the person who KNOWS what is right for everybody else and is setting out to make sure we take our medicine: pack your bags and head for the hills! GNOME shell; a.k.a the soon-to-be GNOME 3 strikes me as a different 75% to the current GNOME. The only reason I would really get excited about this sort of thing would be if there were evidence that it were more hackable/personalisable than GNOME 2. The one and only time I got excited about a Desktop was when I saw one for the first time running on a BBC micro computer. After the jolly command-line interfaces before that any GUI will do: Hey, I feel a musical about computer interfaces coming on - imagine Steve Jobs and Bill Gates wearing matching Austrian Dirndles rushing panting up the Geisburg on a lovely sunny day in a field heavily populated with late 1980s personal computers and then, as the camera pans towards them, they burst into that show-stopping number: "Any GUI will do!" Ok, Ok, I'll stop. From richmondmathewson at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 05:04:29 2010 From: richmondmathewson at gmail.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:04:29 +0300 Subject: Merging 2 stacks ? Message-ID: <4BBC4A9D.5050201@gmail.com> Is it possible to merge 2 main stacks; So, for the sake of argument; cards 1, 2, 3 & 4 of one stack can become cards 1, 2, 3 & 4 of another stack, and cards 1, 2, 3 & 4 of that one become cards 5, 6 ,7 & 8? From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Wed Apr 7 05:09:42 2010 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:09:42 +0200 Subject: Merging 2 stacks ? In-Reply-To: <4BBC4A9D.5050201@gmail.com> References: <4BBC4A9D.5050201@gmail.com> Message-ID: Richmond, Does this work for you? repeat with x = 5 to 8 copy cd x of stack "Stack 1" to "Stack 2" end repeat -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development projects. Feel free to contact me for a quote. Op 7 apr 2010, om 11:04 heeft Richmond Mathewson het volgende geschreven: > Is it possible to merge 2 main stacks; > > So, for the sake of argument; cards 1, 2, 3 & 4 of > one stack can become cards 1, 2, 3 & 4 of another > stack, and cards 1, 2, 3 & 4 of that one become > cards 5, 6 ,7 & 8? From richmondmathewson at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 05:27:54 2010 From: richmondmathewson at gmail.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:27:54 +0300 Subject: Merging 2 stacks ? In-Reply-To: References: <4BBC4A9D.5050201@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BBC501A.8030509@gmail.com> On 07/04/2010 12:09, Mark Schonewille wrote: > Richmond, > > Does this work for you? > > repeat with x = 5 to 8 > copy cd x of stack "Stack 1" to "Stack 2" > end repeat > Certainly looks very straightforward - will give it a go after lunch. From richmondmathewson at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 05:45:38 2010 From: richmondmathewson at gmail.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:45:38 +0300 Subject: Saving audioclips to a file as ... In-Reply-To: <04E3E7EF-67AC-4AAD-B011-08138FE14F66@economy-x-talk.com> References: <4BB9874F.3090509@gmail.com> <04E3E7EF-67AC-4AAD-B011-08138FE14F66@economy-x-talk.com> Message-ID: <4BBC5442.6050502@gmail.com> On 06/04/2010 14:17, Mark Schonewille wrote: > Hi, > > Audioclips can't be exported, but videoclips can: > > put the text of vc "sleighbells.mpg" into url "binfile:path-to-video.mpg" > > Old chestnut indeed. I'd expect that fixing this bug is 5 minutes > work. I wonder why this has to take more than 6 years. > > -- As far as I remember somebody wrote something about RunRev being a programming IDE rather than a sound-processing program . . . so this 'problem' was not a problem at all. However, over the y-e-a-r-s, quite a lot of people have felt this to be a problem: nobody seems to have listened though! http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2002-December/010244.html http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2006-March/079438.html http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2006-November/089776.html I do feel that the lack of audio export is quite a failing which would be great thing if it could be implemented (err . . . how about 4.5 ?). Recently, when I mentioned several capabilities that Supercard had, which RunRev hadn't, the answer given was that Supercard could do that sort of thing relatively easily as it confined itself to fewer platforms than RunRev did. However, as RunRev for Linux looks as if it is going into some sort of tailspin that excuse looks increasingly feeble: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2009-November/130487.html From dr.alistair at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 09:56:17 2010 From: dr.alistair at gmail.com (planix) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 05:56:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Some problems with background behaviour Message-ID: <1270648577407-1754369.post@n4.nabble.com> Hi All, Runrev 4.0 Build 950 on Windows XP. I am not sure whether this is a feature or a flaw. For my purposes it is a clear flaw. But I suspect I am misunderstanding something. I have set up a card based data information system. Just for my own purposes and as a learning exercise before I move on to saving info as database, text, or XML. It consists of a series of stacks which I have conceived of as tables in a relational dB layout. One stack stores details about clients whilst another stack stores information about my contacts with them and then another stores information used to develop reports about clients, and then another etc, etc. So, I have set up this set of stacks in a 1-to-many relationship as it is a familiar and logical (to me) way of setting up the stacks to mimic a relational (somewhat) dB layout. Each of the stacks has a background layer which is replicated each time a new 'event' (whether a new client or new client contact or report) needs to be recorded. In a number of the stacks I have a group of fields which are used to record items of a plan (treatment) for the client. As there can be many plans per client I have set this up so that I can replicate the group, add it to the bottom of the plan list, and then enter the data. This way, I start with one group to record the plan, clone it to add another plan, and keep on cloning to add more plans. The problem that I have is that when I clone the group this is propagated to all the cards in the stack. So, if I make a change (adding or deleting a plan) to one card it is what appears in every card in that stack. I really don't understand what's going on. The script for all this is at the stack level. I do wonder if this is the problem. Should the script that clones the group of fields be at the card level? Or is there some other more obvious boo boo that I have made. Any thoughts would be most welcome. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Some-problems-with-background-behaviour-tp1754369p1754369.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From pmbrig at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 09:58:58 2010 From: pmbrig at gmail.com (Peter Brigham MD) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:58:58 -0400 Subject: Wildcard expressions and unicode ??? In-Reply-To: <4BBB6102.4030003@gmail.com> References: <4BBAFA4C.2030009@gmail.com> <4699F490-CDE8-4D2A-A687-C47587FFB1FF@gmail.com> <4BBB6102.4030003@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1671CD6B-E272-40FF-91A1-6E34777AB38C@gmail.com> Unfortunately, I don't really get how unicode works, as I have never had to make use of it regularly. Maybe someone who knows more can help here. What happens when you step through it in the debugger? -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmbrig at gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On Apr 6, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > On 06/04/2010 14:57, Peter Brigham MD wrote: >> Try this? Untested but should work. (The untested part is the first >> handler -- the offsets() function I have been using for years.) >> >> on mouseup >> set the useUnicode to true >> put numtochar(57888) into targetChar >> put the unicodetext of fld "FIRST" into uText >> put offsets(targetChar,uText) into offsetList >> if offsetList = 0 then exit mouseup >> repeat for each item i in offsetList >> put char i+1 of uText & targetChar into \ >> char i to i+1 of uText >> end repeat >> set the unicodetext of fld "FIRST" to uText >> end mouseup >> >> function offsets str,cntr >> -- returns a comma-delimited list >> -- of all the offsets of str in cntr >> if str is not in cntr then return 0 >> put "" into offsetList >> put 0 into startPoint >> repeat >> put offset(str,cntr,startPoint) into thisOffset >> if thisOffset = 0 then exit repeat >> add thisOffset to startPoint >> put startPoint & comma after offsetList >> end repeat >> delete last char of offsetList >> return offsetList >> end offsets >> > Unfortunately does not work, but > > in my fld "FIRST", which initially contains 4 unicode chars, outputs > 2 unicode chars. > > Probably something to do with the fact that those are 4 double-byte > chars. > > This is where "Keeps Death his court and there the antic sits"; the > antic being the problem > with double-byte characters: > > "Scoffing his state and grinning at his pomp, > Allowing him a breath, a little scene, > To monarchize, be fear'd and kill with looks," > > and mysen fair forjeskit . . . :( an blackafrontit tae! whit a > scunner. > > I was monarchizin a bit, so pleased with my unicode "exchange" > script, but > the antic (as usual) scoffed most effectively at my self-assumed pomp. > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From ambassador at fourthworld.com Wed Apr 7 10:06:53 2010 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 07:06:53 -0700 Subject: Desktop innovation? Future of the desktop? Message-ID: <4BBC917D.3040804@fourthworld.com> Peter Alcibiades wrote: > There's real innovation, for better or worse, going on in Linux desktops in > the last year or two. ... > Gnome and KDE are a lot freer to take risks than either MS or Apple, and > they are taking advantage of that. I don't know that you would like the > latest KDE, but its worth looking at as an example of innovation in this > area. I'll check it out. I very much appreciate your participation here, as we have relatively few on this list who use Linux as extensively as you do. Your note about their design freedom is a good one, and their willingness to explore new options for improving the desktop experience bodes well not only for Linux but the computing industry as a whole. Within 10 years I see a world whose market share eliminates any single OS vendor holding a majority, instead becoming a plurality in which Apple, Microsoft, and Linux each enjoy about a third of the market. This would put Apple tripling its current share, with most of Linux's new users coming from the increasingly disenchanted MS base. Innovations like the latest Gnome that favor simplicity will favor that trend. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv From richmondmathewson at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 10:27:21 2010 From: richmondmathewson at gmail.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:27:21 +0300 Subject: Desktop innovation? Future of the desktop? In-Reply-To: <4BBC917D.3040804@fourthworld.com> References: <4BBC917D.3040804@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: <4BBC9649.4050906@gmail.com> On 07/04/2010 17:06, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > > Within 10 years I see a world whose market share eliminates any single > OS vendor holding a majority, instead becoming a plurality in which > Apple, Microsoft, and Linux each enjoy about a third of the market. > This would put Apple tripling its current share, with most of Linux's > new users coming from the increasingly disenchanted MS base. > I think it would be an awful pity if the OS market were held by 3 equally balanced offerings. To my mind it would be a lot healthier if: 1. There would be a constant 'upwelling' of new operating systems (c.f. Haiku) to 'threaten' anybody who was in danger of becoming complacent. The same could be said for software: I am sure (although they would fain to admit it) Microsoft's 'Office' has profitted no-end from being pushed about by Open Office; as, I am sure, Adobe must be doing some tooth-sucking in the light of SUMO: http://www.sumopaint.com/app/ and, to a lesser extent, GIMP. 2. Apple and Microsoft seriously thought about detaching their desktops from their operating systems and offering either a wide variety of desktop types for their systems, or allowing their desktops (and by 'desktops' I include file browsers) to be far more hackable (i.e. personalisable, not open to attack from nasty-minded people) than they are at present. 3. The computer market did not become fixated on one or two types of processor. 4. There would be a considerable amount of education to stop people mindlessly upgrading their hardware and filling holes in the ground with junk. Individuals, before buying "the next big thing" ought to be shown the advantages of sitting down with a pencil and paper and working out what they need and why they think they need it. 4.1. This leads into a far greater need for modularity in both computers and operating systems; and, ideally, a move away from where "the next big thing" is some sort of bloated monster requiring a bloated machine to work with it. From revolution at derbrill.de Wed Apr 7 10:37:13 2010 From: revolution at derbrill.de (Malte Pfaff-Brill) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:37:13 +0200 Subject: Datagrid: How get column data from other column behavior In-Reply-To: <20100218144150.25A652884F1@mail.runrev.com> References: <20100218144150.25A652884F1@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: Hi Josep, funny. I had to solve the same thing today. :-) on FillInData pData set the text of field 1 of me to pData local tIndex,tControl,tarray put the dgControl of me into tControl put the dgIndex of me into tIndex put the dgDataOfLine[tIndex] of tControl into tarray set the textColor of field 1 of me to tArray["Col 4"] end FillInData Hope that helps, Malte From richmondmathewson at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 10:39:37 2010 From: richmondmathewson at gmail.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:39:37 +0300 Subject: Saving audioclips to a file as ... In-Reply-To: <04E3E7EF-67AC-4AAD-B011-08138FE14F66@economy-x-talk.com> References: <4BB9874F.3090509@gmail.com> <04E3E7EF-67AC-4AAD-B011-08138FE14F66@economy-x-talk.com> Message-ID: <4BBC9929.2010108@gmail.com> Those of you who feel that the capability to export sound files from RunRev would be a good thing are urged to pop across to RevForums and put their good word in on my Feature Request. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. From ambassador at fourthworld.com Wed Apr 7 10:42:11 2010 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 07:42:11 -0700 Subject: Some problems with background behaviour Message-ID: <4BBC99C3.9020900@fourthworld.com> planix wrote: > The problem that I have is that when I clone the group this is propagated to > all the cards in the stack. So, if I make a change (adding or deleting a > plan) to one card it is what appears in every card in that stack. I really > don't understand what's going on. Rather than clone use the place command, and be sure the sharedText property of the fields is set to false. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Wed Apr 7 11:01:46 2010 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:01:46 -0500 Subject: Some problems with background behaviour In-Reply-To: <1270648577407-1754369.post@n4.nabble.com> References: <1270648577407-1754369.post@n4.nabble.com> Message-ID: <4BBC9E5A.70303@hyperactivesw.com> planix wrote: > The problem that I have is that when I clone the group this is propagated to > all the cards in the stack. So, if I make a change (adding or deleting a > plan) to one card it is what appears in every card in that stack. I really > don't understand what's going on. This is normal behavior, but the important piece is the difference between background groups and card groups. Like any other control, if it is in the background it will appear on all cards that use the background. If it is on the card, it appears only on that card. To make your group a card group, turn off "acts as background" in the Basic pane of the group's property inspector. That will cause it to act like a card control and not propagate to all other cards. You will probably need to remove the background group and paste or clone it onto cards as needed, since changing the setting won't automatically remove the ones that are already there. Also, it's wasteful of space and memory to repeat a control many times on many cards, so continue to share as many groups as you can. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Wed Apr 7 11:41:35 2010 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:41:35 +0200 Subject: RevBrowser Crash In-Reply-To: <5EA66518-5356-45F0-B4B6-740C07C91D3A@economy-x-talk.com> References: <5EA66518-5356-45F0-B4B6-740C07C91D3A@economy-x-talk.com> Message-ID: Would anyone be willing to test this for me? You need RunRev 2.9 or later and Windows Vista and/or Windows 7. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development projects. Feel free to contact me for a quote. Op 23 mrt 2010, om 18:26 heeft Mark Schonewille het volgende geschreven: > Hello, > > Fot a client's project, I am using the RevBrowser external to > display Google Maps. Unfortunately, the RevBrowser external crashes > with any Google site, on Windows Vista and Windows 7. The external > works fine with all other operating systems. There is no crash > report, no dialogue, no logs, nothing. RunRev simply disappears, as > if it was never running. I have no problems with other websites. > > I know at least one more person who experiences the same problem. I > have tried it on different machines running Vista and Win 7. I have > tried RunRev 2.9, 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0. > > Is anyone else experiencing this problem and is there a known > solution for this? > > -- > Best regards, > > Mark Schonewille > > Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering > Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com > Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer > > Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development > projects. Feel free to contact me for a quote. From palcibiades-first at yahoo.co.uk Wed Apr 7 12:27:55 2010 From: palcibiades-first at yahoo.co.uk (Peter Alcibiades) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:27:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Desktop innovation? Future of the desktop? In-Reply-To: <4BBC917D.3040804@fourthworld.com> References: <4BBB6589.60602@fourthworld.com> <4BBC917D.3040804@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: <1270657675912-1754609.post@n4.nabble.com> Its important, with kde at the moment, to get the latest, so I would go for the Mandriva 2010.1 beta, the KDE One version, which has kde 4.4.2, the latest and greatest. Another well regarded kde4 implementation is PCLinuxOS. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Re-Desktop-innovation-Future-of-the-desktop-tp1753084p1754609.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From scott at tactilemedia.com Wed Apr 7 13:14:52 2010 From: scott at tactilemedia.com (Scott Rossi) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:14:52 -0700 Subject: RevBrowser Crash In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Recently, Mark Schonewille wrote: >> Fot a client's project, I am using the RevBrowser external to >> display Google Maps. Unfortunately, the RevBrowser external crashes >> with any Google site, on Windows Vista and Windows 7. The external >> works fine with all other operating systems. There is no crash >> report, no dialogue, no logs, nothing. RunRev simply disappears, as >> if it was never running. I have no problems with other websites. > Would anyone be willing to test this for me? You need RunRev 2.9 or > later and Windows Vista and/or Windows 7. Screen capture from Vista SP1, Rev 4: http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/revbrowser_capture.png Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design From henk at ludisstudio.com Wed Apr 7 14:22:28 2010 From: henk at ludisstudio.com (Henk van der Velden) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:22:28 +0200 Subject: RevBrowser Crash In-Reply-To: <20100407170004.8844C28820C@mail.runrev.com> References: <20100407170004.8844C28820C@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: Hi Mark, last year I've built an application on RunRev 3.5, displaying Google Maps. Although it was built for Win XP, several people have used it on Win Vista, without any problems. I do have a Win Vista machine here, so send me your file off list if you want me to test it. Kind regards, Henk ----------------------------- Henk van der Velden Ludis studio Magda Janssenslaan 36 3584 GR Utrecht 0031 (0)30 262 66 89 0031 (0)61 602 43 37 www.ludisstudio.com From zryip.theslug at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 16:52:10 2010 From: zryip.theslug at gmail.com (zryip theSlug) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 22:52:10 +0200 Subject: [ANN] The Slug's color picker is on the road again for beta test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2010/4/6 zryip theSlug : > Dear friends, > > A new version of the Slug's color picker is available for beta test on > my website. > > http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc/index.php?option=com_phocadownload&view=category&id=2:tools&Itemid=63 > > What's new in the 0.2 ? version: > - Add the possibility to choose the color of the selected objects > (red, system color or custom color) > - Add the possibility to define the default color mode : web or RGB > - Hold down the mouse on the picker to dock / undock it with the rev > tool palette. Wait until the hand cursor appears, then move the picker > to undock it. To dock the picker again, wait the hand cursor and move > the picker in the rev tools palette. > > Features: > - Pick a color from the content of your screen. > - Apply a background and / or a border color to a control by drag & drop. > - Apply a background color to a stack by drag & drop. > - During the drag, a focus indicates which controls will be colorized. > - Apply the selected color to the RR tools. > - Choose between RGB or Web color format. > - Edit the color value in a field. > > I'm waiting for your feedbacks and bugs report ;) New 0.2c beta version available: http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc/index.php?option=com_phocadownload&view=category&id=2:tools&Itemid=63 - When the picker is an independent palette, the resize button is hidden to allow the choice between web or RGB mode. - Prevent the cursor to flash when it is inside an objet at colorize - Improve the managing of the picker's pending messages To present how the picker is docked to the tools palette, I updated the preview video of the picker. The video is available on the home page of my website. Regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc From josh at dvcreators.net Wed Apr 7 17:03:22 2010 From: josh at dvcreators.net (Josh Mellicker) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:03:22 -0700 Subject: getting info from a Data Grid - which out of three methods is best? Message-ID: <60E221C4-A7D2-4429-8B78-36C4FFBEE013@dvcreators.net> Imagine you have a Data Grid with data (perhaps 30 - 50 lines). Now, you want to find all lines where 3 certain columns match given values. Example: you want to find all lines where columnName "firstName" = "Trevor", "food" = "salad", and "meal" = "lunch". Would you: 1. scan the grid line by line, trying for a value match with data grid commands? 2. get the dgData and loop through the array? 3. get the dgText and loop through the tab delimited data? (NOTE: We can't really depend on the "filter" command, since it's conceivable columns could change order or position in the future.) Thanks in advance for any ideas! From andrew at rjdfarm.com Wed Apr 7 17:48:18 2010 From: andrew at rjdfarm.com (Andrew Kluthe) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:48:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: sqlYoga: failing to do simple record deletion? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1270676898139-1755701.post@n4.nabble.com> using SQLYoga's plugin for logging the SQL statements it is generating always helps me track down the culprit, along with wrapping the handler in a try statement. This catches the errors coming out of libSQLYoga that you usually cant see in the script editor. on hdb_DeleteHandler try put GetSelectedID() into handlerID put sqlrecord_CreateObject ("handler") into theRecordA sqlrecord_set theRecordA, "id", handlerID sqlrecord_delete theRecordA put the result into someError display_HkeyDataBase catch theError answer theError end try > end hdb_DeleteHandler -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/sqlYoga-failing-to-do-simple-record-deletion-tp1753332p1755701.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From davidocoker at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 17:51:00 2010 From: davidocoker at gmail.com (David Coker) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:51:00 -0500 Subject: lowering CPU cycles? Message-ID: Hello folks, This should be the last of my questions for awhile (hopefully). I'm doing some pretty intensive data processing while running in a repeat loop, which causes the CPU cycles to jump up to 100% for the duration of a fairly lengthy run period. Memory consumption seems to be fine and the app remains plenty responsive with a "wait with messages" inside the loop. My question is how can I go about making this app more CPU friendly (and hopefully without slowing things down terribly) ? Best regards, David C. From andrew at rjdfarm.com Wed Apr 7 17:58:54 2010 From: andrew at rjdfarm.com (Andrew Kluthe) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:58:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: sqlYoga: sqlite primary key and a few detailed questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1270677534088-1755712.post@n4.nabble.com> Look into using sqlquery_ commands where sqlrecord_ fails you. I have noticed that it is easier in some cases to use sqlquery_ over sqlrecord_. http://www.bluemangolearning.com/revolution/docs/sql_yoga/api_docs/Documents/stack_libSQLYoga_package_SQLp20Query.htm There is a link to the documentation. And what about a looped function that takes a list of Id numbers and deletes the record? sIDList = "67,54,39,112" reapeat for each item theID in sIDList Delete theID end repeat This pulls each comma delimited item out of sIDList and deletes the record. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/sqlYoga-sqlite-primary-key-and-a-few-detailed-questions-tp1753188p1755712.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Wed Apr 7 18:05:18 2010 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:05:18 -0500 Subject: lowering CPU cycles? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BBD019E.2090105@hyperactivesw.com> David Coker wrote: > Hello folks, > This should be the last of my questions for awhile (hopefully). > > I'm doing some pretty intensive data processing while running in a > repeat loop, which causes the CPU cycles to jump up to 100% for the > duration of a fairly lengthy run period. Memory consumption seems to > be fine and the app remains plenty responsive with a "wait with > messages" inside the loop. > > My question is how can I go about making this app more CPU friendly > (and hopefully without slowing things down terribly) ? Don't use a repeat loop, basically. Use "send in