HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

René Micout rmicout at online.fr
Wed Mar 18 08:32:04 EDT 2009 

Luis,
I am an "amateur" musician, a "medium" rev developper. I make now  
several virtual musical instruments (exagofon, yasarofon, rizomofon)  
on Macintosh...
I offer all the help I can provide in relation to the requirements  
and my skills.
But I have a disadvantage : english is not my maternal language...
René from Paris

Le 18 mars 09 à 13:11, Luis a écrit :

> Hiya,
>
> On which side?...  :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Luis.
>
>
> On 18 Mar 2009, at 12:00, René Micout wrote:
>
>> Hello Luis,
>> I am interessed by this project
>> René from Paris
>>
>> Le 18 mars 09 à 12:36, Luis a écrit :
>>
>>> Hiya,
>>>
>>> If there isn't going to be an 'internal' version forthcoming from  
>>> RunRev anytime soon, why not create a user group bounty system  
>>> for an external?
>>>
>>> - Anyone up to the task would propose their 'bounty'
>>> OR
>>> - A community set bounty which developers would then vie for
>>>
>>> These could be community, developer or RunRev managed.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Luis.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18 Mar 2009, at 10:53, Judy Perry wrote:
>>>
>>>> I certainly wasn't offended.
>>>> As for the age of the "young children," well, mine are nearly  
>>>> 8.  They
>>>> desperately want a cell phone but aren't getting one anytime  
>>>> soon.  ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Yes, they *would* notice latency.
>>>>
>>>> As you say, Kay, in the old days when we all weren't quite so  
>>>> long in tooth,
>>>> we could all roll our own.  In HC, I could roll my own tunes  
>>>> without having
>>>> to know the midi spec and with only knowing how to read  
>>>> sheetmusic.  And I
>>>> could have sound channels.  And without having to use Player  
>>>> Objects,
>>>> layered or not.  Without latency. Without QuickTime.  On the  
>>>> sorts of older
>>>> machines I trust my wee ones with (not mine certainly!).
>>>>
>>>> And now, none of that's possible and FOR NO GOOD REASON.  No  
>>>> good reason.
>>>>
>>>> Again, the problem with MIDI is this:  (a) it requires learning  
>>>> the MIDI
>>>> spec; (b) it requires QT dependency.  It isn't clean and elegant  
>>>> and it
>>>> isn't internal.  And it still doesn't really deal with the sound  
>>>> channel
>>>> issue.
>>>>
>>>> But I'll gratefully accept and support and help pay for an  
>>>> external that
>>>> does help in these areas.
>>>>
>>>> Judy
>>>> http://revined.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Kay C Lan  
>>>> <lan.kc.macmail at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Richard Gaskin <
>>>>> ambassador at fourthworld.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While referring to HC's notation as "door bell jingles" may sound
>>>>> derisive,
>>>>>> these days when people are accustomed to richer sound design,  
>>>>>> it's not an
>>>>>> entirely unfair characterization to the modern ear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice pun;-) And certainly I didn't mean to offend anyone, as I  
>>>>> think I
>>>>> said,
>>>>> "I'm wondering", as in I'm trying to figure this out, I've used  
>>>>> sound files
>>>>> in Rev and have been more than happy with the results; I just  
>>>>> can't seem to
>>>>> grasp what it is I'm missing out on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Three phones ago I could create my own ringtone by typing in HC  
>>>>> like
>>>>> notation and saving the file. The web was full of text snippets  
>>>>> of the
>>>>> appropriate code for the appropriate make of phone so you could  
>>>>> quickly
>>>>> type
>>>>> in and have you own personal version of "rape of the moonlight  
>>>>> sonata" ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Today I can't even find those text snippets anymore because  
>>>>> everything has
>>>>> moved onto mp3 files. Three phones ago I could roll my own*,  
>>>>> today it's not
>>>>> so simple - you still can, but you need to use some third party  
>>>>> software
>>>>> (GarageBand) to create your mp3 - and it certainly wont sound  
>>>>> as good as an
>>>>> mp3 of a real artist. Most people will see this as progress,  
>>>>> some may
>>>>> consider they've lost something.
>>>>>
>>>>> Judy's reference to children not likely noticing the sound  
>>>>> quality I
>>>>> suspect
>>>>> must be referring to very young children because all the fifth  
>>>>> graders at
>>>>> my
>>>>> wife's school all have the latest pop songs blasting out their  
>>>>> iPhones when
>>>>> somebody rings, they seem to be very image concscious.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the children are that young not to notice the quality, then  
>>>>> isn't it
>>>>> possible that they wouldn't notice the latency mentioned with  
>>>>> the MIDI
>>>>> solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still wondering why external, as put forward by Richard way  
>>>>> back at the
>>>>> beginning, isn't the correct answer?
>>>>>
>>>>> *Roll my own in this case refers to creating an original  
>>>>> ringtone, not the
>>>>> art/crime of splicing up a file in your iTunes library or copy/ 
>>>>> sharing such
>>>>> a file.
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