Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com
Mon Feb 2 01:40:09 EST 2009


Randall Reetz wrote:

 >> Andrew Meit wrote:
 >>> For over 20 years I have been waiting and wanting an xtalk
 >>> supporting PS like graphics objects.
 >>
 >> Why must it be an xTalk specifically?
 >>
 >> I wouldn't write an OS in an xTalk, and for graphic-intensive work
 >> I'd be quick to consider Flex:
 >>
 >><http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/3/html/help.html?content=Drawing_Vector_Graphics_2.html>
 >>
 >> There's a world of options available.  Enjoy them all...
 >
 > Oh yes, here come the attack dogs.    Richard, everyone  is welcome
 > to their openion.  Andrew has a deep and distinguished career in
 > post script and xtalk and large scale software projects.  Stop with
 > the (very predictable) defensive attack everytime anyone cares enough
 > about xtalk to offer a wish list or a considdered and deeply
 > experienced openion.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

"attack dog"?  Please.

I'll bet Andrew's laughing as hard reading your post as I am.  I know 
Andrew rather well, spanning decades; I've had many a conversation with 
him on the phone and in email, and have even hired him to help me with a 
project.

I trust Andrew knows me well enough to know that my question was in earnest.

Andrew has some significant accomplishments under his belt over the 
years, and as much as he shares the love of xTalks that brings us all to 
this list, he's also quite capable of learning anything else he puts his 
mind to.

So my question was as simple as I'd written it.

And if you don't mind letting Andrew answer his own questions, I'm still 
interested to hear what he has to say on this.


 > Why would somone want a curves in rev or some other xtalk IDE they
 > work in?  Why wouldnt they???

Of course they would.  Me too.  In fact, I'm the only one who's voted 
for Andrew's request for that feature:
<http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=1511>

I also had an email exchange with Kevin about this very feature just 
last week.

Even without your supporting votes for Andrew's request, I'll bet you 
wouldn't mind seeing it in Rev too.

But where you and I part ways is the expectation that Kevin will -- or 
even can -- deliver everything everyone wants exactly when they want it.

Sure, I'll keep my votes in place and would love to see it in Rev.  But 
while I wait for Kevin to get around to that and a number of other 
things I'm looking for, I owe it to myself to see what other tools may 
give me what I'm looking for.

For vector graphics (and table objects and quite a number of other 
things people have been asking for), Flex offers some good solutions 
right now for those who need to ship.

Like any tool, it's not without its warts.  But it's proven itself to be 
more than an interesting experiment, and worthy of consideration for a 
person as astute as Andrew, esp. given his strong background in vector 
op codes (he's done some amazing work with fonts and Fontographer).


 > Lets bring everyone and all their opinions along on this
 > wonderful journey.

Could that include me too?


Randall, you're relatively new to this list, yet have already had a 
surprising number of social complexities here.  Please, feel free to 
slow down and relax, presume good intentions from your colleagues here 
and enjoy the friendly camaraderie that characterizes the exchanges on list.

--
  Richard Gaskin
  Fourth World
  Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
  Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com





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