From revlist at azurevision.co.uk Thu May 1 06:02:34 2008 From: revlist at azurevision.co.uk (Ian Wood) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 11:02:34 +0100 Subject: Fame, Fortune, and... well, less of the fortune... In-Reply-To: <4E23C366-7BBA-47AE-89DD-415FD298549A@azurevision.co.uk> References: <07A7B6B6-CC7B-401D-B4D6-5D2A3789BAF3@azurevision.co.uk> <4E23C366-7BBA-47AE-89DD-415FD298549A@azurevision.co.uk> Message-ID: <5BC6215C-1B14-4E18-AFBD-E88B52DD24D2@azurevision.co.uk> Aperture Assistant just got picked as the Featured Download on the Apple downloads section! http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/ Now, if only there were people buying registration keys... :-( Ian P.S. Does anyone have experience with http://www.ilocalizer.eu? From revlist at azurevision.co.uk Thu May 1 07:18:07 2008 From: revlist at azurevision.co.uk (Ian Wood) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:18:07 +0100 Subject: AppleScript - "Where is System Events" Message-ID: <4F62397A-2476-46EC-B2C8-F0668A1EEFEE@azurevision.co.uk> Sometimes I need to find out what applications are currently running on a Mac, and I've been using the following code to get a list: put "tell application" && quote & "System Events" && quote & "to get name of every process" into tS do ts as applescript This normally returns an AppleScript list of application names, but I've had a couple of people complaining that they are getting prompted to choose an application with the warning "Where is System Events". Anyone have any clues? Ian From sims at ezpzapps.com Thu May 1 07:29:21 2008 From: sims at ezpzapps.com (Jim Sims) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:29:21 +0200 Subject: AppleScript - "Where is System Events" In-Reply-To: <4F62397A-2476-46EC-B2C8-F0668A1EEFEE@azurevision.co.uk> References: <4F62397A-2476-46EC-B2C8-F0668A1EEFEE@azurevision.co.uk> Message-ID: On May 1, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Ian Wood wrote: > Sometimes I need to find out what applications are currently running > on a Mac, and I've been using the following code to get a list: > > put "tell application" && quote & "System Events" && quote & "to get > name of every process" into tS > do ts as applescript > > This normally returns an AppleScript list of application names, but > I've had a couple of people complaining that they are getting > prompted to choose an application with the warning "Where is System > Events". It requires 10.3 I think, so maybe those people are using something under 10.3 sims ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ClipaSearch Pro http://www.ClipaTools.com Across Platforms - Code and Culture http://www.ezpzapps.com/blog/ From revlist at azurevision.co.uk Thu May 1 07:37:29 2008 From: revlist at azurevision.co.uk (Ian Wood) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:37:29 +0100 Subject: AppleScript - "Where is System Events" In-Reply-To: References: <4F62397A-2476-46EC-B2C8-F0668A1EEFEE@azurevision.co.uk> Message-ID: On 1 May 2008, at 12:29, Jim Sims wrote: > It requires 10.3 I think, so maybe those people are using something > under 10.3 If they're running 10.3 or below they can't run Aperture, so I doubt that that's the problem. :-( After a bit more digging this may be related to a problem when using disk-level HD copying: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1163265&tstart=0 Maybe I'll re-write the code to use a shell command instead. Ian From david at openpartnership.net Thu May 1 07:52:57 2008 From: david at openpartnership.net (David Bovill) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:52:57 +0100 Subject: Robust Logging Script Message-ID: Anyone have any experience logging events for several days or more (an event happens each second).... is it better to write them out as text files broken up into a few hundred lines - or write it to a text file using the append syntax (not done this myself). It must be a common task that people have done before, but as it would take a day or so to test whether I'd chosen the most robust solution well hell thought I'd ask here :) NB - I'll be logging geopositions and when I get the plotting code done (thanks to all the help with the Shift Left operator guys) - i'll be able to plot the paths on the map. From mark at maseurope.net Thu May 1 07:53:35 2008 From: mark at maseurope.net (Mark Smith) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:53:35 +0100 Subject: AppleScript - "Where is System Events" In-Reply-To: References: <4F62397A-2476-46EC-B2C8-F0668A1EEFEE@azurevision.co.uk> Message-ID: <66F4BEC8-ED8E-4593-8847-C55A4D82D829@maseurope.net> I just ran that bit of Applescript, and got the 'where is system events' dialog - I'm on 10.4.11. (intel mac). I guess the 'ps' or 'top' commands would work. Best, Mark On 1 May 2008, at 12:37, Ian Wood wrote: > > On 1 May 2008, at 12:29, Jim Sims wrote: > >> It requires 10.3 I think, so maybe those people are using >> something under 10.3 > > If they're running 10.3 or below they can't run Aperture, so I > doubt that that's the problem. :-( > > After a bit more digging this may be related to a problem when > using disk-level HD copying: > > http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1163265&tstart=0 > > Maybe I'll re-write the code to use a shell command instead. > > Ian > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From mark at maseurope.net Thu May 1 07:57:51 2008 From: mark at maseurope.net (Mark Smith) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:57:51 +0100 Subject: Robust Logging Script In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've had log files that I let run up to about 3 to 4 mb - it didn't seem to cause a problem. Best, Mark On 1 May 2008, at 12:52, David Bovill wrote: > Anyone have any experience logging events for several days or more > (an event > happens each second).... is it better to write them out as text > files broken > up into a few hundred lines - or write it to a text file using the > append > syntax (not done this myself). It must be a common task that people > have > done before, but as it would take a day or so to test whether I'd > chosen the > most robust solution well hell thought I'd ask here :) > > NB - I'll be logging geopositions and when I get the plotting code > done > (thanks to all the help with the Shift Left operator guys) - i'll > be able to > plot the paths on the map. > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From revlist at azurevision.co.uk Thu May 1 08:09:01 2008 From: revlist at azurevision.co.uk (Ian Wood) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:09:01 +0100 Subject: AppleScript - "Where is System Events" In-Reply-To: <66F4BEC8-ED8E-4593-8847-C55A4D82D829@maseurope.net> References: <4F62397A-2476-46EC-B2C8-F0668A1EEFEE@azurevision.co.uk> <66F4BEC8-ED8E-4593-8847-C55A4D82D829@maseurope.net> Message-ID: Yes, I think I'll have to redo it using shell("top -l 1 -o +command") instead. Ian On 1 May 2008, at 12:53, Mark Smith wrote: > I just ran that bit of Applescript, and got the 'where is system > events' dialog - I'm on 10.4.11. (intel mac). > > I guess the 'ps' or 'top' commands would work. From ambassador at fourthworld.com Thu May 1 09:39:54 2008 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 06:39:54 -0700 Subject: Fame, Fortune, and... well, less of the fortune... Message-ID: <4819C82A.10006@fourthworld.com> Ian Wood wrote: > Aperture Assistant just got picked as the Featured Download on the > Apple downloads section! > > http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/ > > Now, if only there were people buying registration keys... :-( Congratulations on the placement, Ian. Don't worry about the registrations. There's always a lag time between download and registration, and with new products this is a little longer than for those with a public track record. So just be patient, and enjoy knowing you got featured ad space at a major site for zero cost. :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___________________________________________________________ Ambassador at FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com From revlist at azurevision.co.uk Thu May 1 11:17:14 2008 From: revlist at azurevision.co.uk (Ian Wood) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 16:17:14 +0100 Subject: Fame, Fortune, and... well, less of the fortune... In-Reply-To: <4819C82A.10006@fourthworld.com> References: <4819C82A.10006@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: On 1 May 2008, at 14:39, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Congratulations on the placement, Ian. > > Don't worry about the registrations. There's always a lag time > between download and registration, and with new products this is a > little longer than for those with a public track record. There's time lag, and there's one purchase in the first week of an app being available... :-( But I know I need more patience when it comes to this part. > So just be patient, and enjoy knowing you got featured ad space at a > major site for zero cost. :) I strongly recommend that *everyone* with a publicly-available Mac app submit it to https://adcweb.apple.com/downloads/ if you haven't already done so. I was just hoping it would be listed - having it as the featured app was cream on top. It's been interesting keeping an eye on the referral statistics - in less than a day, links from the Apple site have already overtaken nearly a month of exposure on MacUpdate (two betas and the final 1.0 release), and is catching up fast with VersionTracker. Stats question - how many of you keep track of referrals and downloads via other sites? Next time I'll make sure to have multiple copies of the download so that I can keep track of how many downloads came from which site. Ian From ambassador at fourthworld.com Thu May 1 11:33:37 2008 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 08:33:37 -0700 Subject: Fame, Fortune, and... well, less of the fortune... Message-ID: <4819E2D1.9030705@fourthworld.com> Ian Wood wrote: > It's been interesting keeping an eye on the referral statistics - in > less than a day, links from the Apple site have already overtaken > nearly a month of exposure on MacUpdate (two betas and the final 1.0 > release), and is catching up fast with VersionTracker. > > > Stats question - how many of you keep track of referrals and downloads > via other sites? Next time I'll make sure to have multiple copies of > the download so that I can keep track of how many downloads came from > which site. I'm not sure I understand: log files contain the referrer, so you can track downloads of a single file from any site that way. Most log analysis software sucks, but with Rev it's easy to parse the raw logs into any format you find convenient. As for sites, in addition to Apple, MacUpdate, and VersionTracker, I also post to Download.com. There are about five million other download sites, and a very few which address specific markets can be helpful. But to be honest, I've stopped bothering with most of the smaller download sites. There's just too many of them, and most of them are in it really just for the AdSense weight they get when you link back to them. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___________________________________________________________ Ambassador at FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com From revlist at azurevision.co.uk Thu May 1 11:40:15 2008 From: revlist at azurevision.co.uk (Ian Wood) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 16:40:15 +0100 Subject: Fame, Fortune, and... well, less of the fortune... In-Reply-To: <4819E2D1.9030705@fourthworld.com> References: <4819E2D1.9030705@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: <1CE69A34-31C8-43BE-A45B-077D259E2500@azurevision.co.uk> On 1 May 2008, at 16:33, Richard Gaskin wrote: > I'm not sure I understand: log files contain the referrer, so you > can track downloads of a single file from any site that way. > > Most log analysis software sucks, but with Rev it's easy to parse > the raw logs into any format you find convenient. Ah. I didn't know the logs contained referral data on a per-file basis, thanks for the heads-up. Ian From troy_lists at rpsystems.net Thu May 1 11:51:56 2008 From: troy_lists at rpsystems.net (Troy Rollins) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 11:51:56 -0400 Subject: Fame, Fortune, and... well, less of the fortune... In-Reply-To: <4819E2D1.9030705@fourthworld.com> References: <4819E2D1.9030705@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: <8FBC9F53-2613-4538-9406-194410A09492@rpsystems.net> On May 1, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > I also post to Download.com I can see that for cross platform apps, but I don't think they service Mac apps, do they? -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net From shari at gypsyware.com Thu May 1 12:41:40 2008 From: shari at gypsyware.com (Shari) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:41:40 -0400 Subject: Launching a web page Message-ID: This is crazy. My code for launching a web page worked happily for many years up until ??? Now it's broken and I can't seem to fix it. "launch url someUrl" does not work. I cannot use any command that starts with "rev..." so all of those are out. Does anyone have a working handler to go to a website, launching the user's browser, on Windows? That does not involve "launch url" or "rev...Something"? I'm about to lose my marbles trying to figure this one out. The system I'm testing this on is Windows NT, systemVersion NT 5.1, no idea what's happening on other Windows systems. The following all fail: 1. set the shellCommand to "cmd.exe" put quote & quote into theTitle get shell("start" && theTitle && quote & tURL & quote) 2. local intApp local EXE_off put queryRegistry("hkey_local_machine\software\classes\http\shell\open\command\") into intApp if char 1 of intApp is quote then delete char 1 of intApp # strip leading quote put offset("EXE",intApp) into EXE_off put char 1 to (EXE_off+2) of intApp into intApp launch tURL with intApp 3. put word 1 to -2 of \ queryRegistry("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Classes\http\shell\open\command\") \ into tBrowserPath launch (tBrowserPath && tURL) 4. launch url tUrl I can go to a web page outside of Rev, and surf the internet fine. So it's not an issue with the internet or the browser itself. The website exists. But all attempts to get to it from within Rev fail. Shari -- Humorous sports t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com From revlist at azurevision.co.uk Thu May 1 12:51:40 2008 From: revlist at azurevision.co.uk (Ian Wood) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 17:51:40 +0100 Subject: Launching a web page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6C1DAE9C-2DD3-4F29-BD0A-4914AD48C689@azurevision.co.uk> On 1 May 2008, at 17:41, Shari wrote: > I cannot use any command that starts with "rev..." so all of those > are out. They aren't working for you, or you don't want to use them? Ian From ambassador at fourthworld.com Thu May 1 12:59:24 2008 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 09:59:24 -0700 Subject: Fame, Fortune, and... well, less of the fortune... Message-ID: <4819F6EC.3060702@fourthworld.com> Troy Rollins wrote: > On May 1, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> > I also post to Download.com > > I can see that for cross platform apps, but I don't think they service > Mac apps, do they? Yes, the have a Mac section too. Their major categories are: - Mac Software - Windows Software - Mobile Software - Webware Curiously absent is a category for Linux, but I suspect that will change soon enough. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___________________________________________________________ Ambassador at FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com From revlist at azurevision.co.uk Thu May 1 14:00:58 2008 From: revlist at azurevision.co.uk (Ian Wood) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 19:00:58 +0100 Subject: Fame, Fortune, and... well, less of the fortune... In-Reply-To: <4819E2D1.9030705@fourthworld.com> References: <4819E2D1.9030705@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: On 1 May 2008, at 16:33, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Most log analysis software sucks, but with Rev it's easy to parse > the raw logs into any format you find convenient. VERY useful pointer, Richard. In the interests of sharing some market research, here's the different referring domains for all downloads of AA 1.0: 760 apple.com 231 aperture-assistant.com 64 - 42 macupdate.com 38 versiontracker.com As you can see, one day of that Apple featured download has beaten ALL other downloads put together - and it went up on VersionTracker and MacUpdate on Monday morning. Here's the results for all versions both beta and final over the last three weeks (it was a short beta): 760 apple.com 408 aperture-assistant.com 264 versiontracker.com 206 macupdate.com 126 - 7 mac.softpedia.com One thing I found particularly interesting is that VersionTracker's 'number of downloads' doesn't seem to tally with the server logs - server 264 v. VT's 755. Odd. Ian From benr_mc at cogapp.com Thu May 1 13:34:00 2008 From: benr_mc at cogapp.com (Ben Rubinstein) Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 18:34:00 +0100 Subject: Fame, Fortune, and... well, less of the fortune... In-Reply-To: References: <4819C82A.10006@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: <4819FF08.5010803@cogapp.com> On 1/5/08 16:17, Ian Wood wrote: > I strongly recommend that *everyone* with a publicly-available Mac app > submit it to https://adcweb.apple.com/downloads/ if you haven't already > done so. I was just hoping it would be listed - having it as the > featured app was cream on top. > > It's been interesting keeping an eye on the referral statistics - in > less than a day, links from the Apple site have already overtaken nearly > a month of exposure on MacUpdate (two betas and the final 1.0 release), > and is catching up fast with VersionTracker. Since it's some 15 years since I tried to sell an app as a product, I don't know what I'm talking about; but for anyone who is in that business, this talk by Wil Shipley (Delicious Library, formerly OmniEtc) looks like it would be interesting. Or perhaps just annoying: http://www.viddler.com/explore/rentzsch/videos/4/ - Ben From sims at ezpzapps.com Thu May 1 14:50:32 2008 From: sims at ezpzapps.com (jim sims) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 20:50:32 +0200 Subject: Fame, Fortune, and... well, less of the fortune... In-Reply-To: <4819E2D1.9030705@fourthworld.com> References: <4819E2D1.9030705@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: <64AF0E09-A683-43BF-BB77-B63B696FF801@ezpzapps.com> On May 1, 2008, at 5:33 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Most log analysis software sucks, but with Rev it's easy to parse > the raw logs into any format you find convenient. My log files include result status code ("200" meaning success, "404" not found, etc) and also bytes transferred, and a few other items. I've seen some cases where the status says "200" but the bytes do not match the size of the file. Some cases where it appears that a bot starts to download and then drops it. When you parse raw logs, as you say above, do you take all these items into consideration or do you check for the file name only and just track that? Just curious about your procedure. sims ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ClipaSearch Pro http://www.ClipaTools.com Across Platforms - Code and Culture http://www.ezpzapps.com/blog/ From shari at gypsyware.com Thu May 1 15:17:58 2008 From: shari at gypsyware.com (Shari) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 15:17:58 -0400 Subject: Launching a web page In-Reply-To: <6C1DAE9C-2DD3-4F29-BD0A-4914AD48C689@azurevision.co.uk> References: <6C1DAE9C-2DD3-4F29-BD0A-4914AD48C689@azurevision.co.uk> Message-ID: >They aren't working for you, or you don't want to use them? > >Ian I cannot use them. I work in the Metacard IDE, which means I cannot use handlers beginning with "Rev..." as those are specific to the Rev IDE. I cannot use the Rev IDE itself, as it does not like my existing projects. There is a conflict between the Rev IDE and my projects. I spent several hours trying to make my projects compatible with the Rev IDE, but gave up. The IDE is just too cranky for me. It threw up error after error, and I just didn't have the time to figure out what it wanted and redo it all. The MC IDE gives me no such troubles. Shari -- Humorous sports t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com From ambassador at fourthworld.com Thu May 1 15:29:28 2008 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 12:29:28 -0700 Subject: Fame, Fortune, and... well, less of the fortune... Message-ID: <481A1A18.5040905@fourthworld.com> jim sims wrote: > My log files include result status code ("200" meaning success, "404" > not found, etc) and also bytes transferred, and a few other items. > > I've seen some cases where the status says "200" but the bytes do not > match the size of the file. Some cases where it appears that a bot starts > to download and then drops it. > > When you parse raw logs, as you say above, do you take all these items > into consideration or do you check for the file name only and just > track that? Can't say I've ever bothered; I tend to go by the result code only. How frequently does that happen on your servers? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___________________________________________________________ Ambassador at FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com From sarah.reichelt at gmail.com Thu May 1 17:16:03 2008 From: sarah.reichelt at gmail.com (Sarah Reichelt) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 07:16:03 +1000 Subject: Launching a web page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:41 AM, Shari wrote: > This is crazy. My code for launching a web page worked happily for many > years up until ??? Now it's broken and I can't seem to fix it. > > "launch url someUrl" does not work. > > I cannot use any command that starts with "rev..." so all of those are out. > > Does anyone have a working handler to go to a website, launching the user's > browser, on Windows? That does not involve "launch url" or > "rev...Something"? > > I'm about to lose my marbles trying to figure this one out. The system I'm > testing this on is Windows NT, systemVersion NT 5.1, no idea what's > happening on other Windows systems. Hi Shari, Open up the Rev IDE and have a look at the scripts in the revCommon library which you can get to using the Backscripts section of the Message box. It contains the scripts for revGoURL and various other Windows-related handlers. You might be able to work out how Rev does it and and see if you can adapt this to your needs. Cheers, Sarah From sarah.reichelt at gmail.com Thu May 1 17:20:07 2008 From: sarah.reichelt at gmail.com (Sarah Reichelt) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 07:20:07 +1000 Subject: Robust Logging Script In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:52 PM, David Bovill wrote: > Anyone have any experience logging events for several days or more (an event > happens each second).... is it better to write them out as text files broken > up into a few hundred lines - or write it to a text file using the append > syntax (not done this myself). It must be a common task that people have > done before, but as it would take a day or so to test whether I'd chosen the > most robust solution well hell thought I'd ask here :) I tend to accumulate events in a field or custom property and write to file every so often but not after every event. Showing them in a field is very useful during testing, but slower than using CPs as the data gets larger, so once you are sure it is doing what you want, swap to using CPs, but with a method for displaying them if you need to check. I would also write to a date-stamped file so that you start a new log file at midnight. This will keep the file sizes down if the app is running continuously. Sarah From sarah.reichelt at gmail.com Thu May 1 17:28:43 2008 From: sarah.reichelt at gmail.com (Sarah Reichelt) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 07:28:43 +1000 Subject: AppleScript - "Where is System Events" In-Reply-To: <4F62397A-2476-46EC-B2C8-F0668A1EEFEE@azurevision.co.uk> References: <4F62397A-2476-46EC-B2C8-F0668A1EEFEE@azurevision.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Ian Wood wrote: > Sometimes I need to find out what applications are currently running on a > Mac, and I've been using the following code to get a list: > > put "tell application" && quote & "System Events" && quote & "to get name > of every process" into tS > do ts as applescript > > This normally returns an AppleScript list of application names, but I've > had a couple of people complaining that they are getting prompted to choose > an application with the warning "Where is System Events". > > Anyone have any clues? Yes, you have a space after Events and before the quote so you are trying to tell app "System Events ", not "System Events". Change the second double ampersand to a single and it all works fine. Cheers, Sarah From revlist at azurevision.co.uk Thu May 1 17:32:23 2008 From: revlist at azurevision.co.uk (Ian Wood) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 22:32:23 +0100 Subject: AppleScript - "Where is System Events" In-Reply-To: References: <4F62397A-2476-46EC-B2C8-F0668A1EEFEE@azurevision.co.uk> Message-ID: On 1 May 2008, at 22:28, Sarah Reichelt wrote: > Yes, you have a space after Events and before the quote so you are > trying to tell app "System Events ", not "System Events". > Change the second double ampersand to a single and it all works fine. THANK you! So it was just a typo... Ian From JimAultWins at yahoo.com Thu May 1 18:49:19 2008 From: JimAultWins at yahoo.com (Jim Ault) Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 15:49:19 -0700 Subject: Robust Logging Script In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 5/1/08 2:20 PM, "Sarah Reichelt" wrote: > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:52 PM, David Bovill > wrote: >> Anyone have any experience logging events for several days or more (an event >> happens each second).... is it better to write them out as text files broken >> up into a few hundred lines - or write it to a text file using the append >> syntax (not done this myself). It must be a common task that people have >> done before, but as it would take a day or so to test whether I'd chosen the >> most robust solution well hell thought I'd ask here :) > > I tend to accumulate events in a field or custom property and write to > file every so often but not after every event. Showing them in a field > is very useful during testing, but slower than using CPs as the data > gets larger, so once you are sure it is doing what you want, swap to > using CPs, but with a method for displaying them if you need to check. > > I would also write to a date-stamped file so that you start a new log > file at midnight. This will keep the file sizes down if the app is > running continuously. > > Sarah ------------ A few suggestions from my limited experience: 1 devise a very terse encoding for older messages to keep the size much smaller. You can scan the file to convert back to verbose mode if needed 2 sequentially name (the seconds & "logEvents.txt") and start a new one if the number of chars > yourMaxSizeDesired 3 keep the log in RAM, such as a custom property, and write once. 4 use the compress command in Rev to reduce file size 5 send yourself an email when the new file is created 6 send yourself an email and include the logFile.zip as an attachment 7 filter the log lines for "*error*" or such and create an 'errLog.txt' 8 email only the errors to you along with the time and date stamp Hope this helps Jim Ault Las Vegas From michael.rr at mdmays.com Thu May 1 18:54:27 2008 From: michael.rr at mdmays.com (Michael D Mays) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 17:54:27 -0500 Subject: Can't change directory with shell(cd) Message-ID: <2B69DB4D-2935-496A-A69C-61ABEECCA172@mdmays.com> I'm doing this answer folder "" put it into aPath put "cd "&aPath into aRequest put aRequest into fld 1 put shell(aRequest) into fld 2 put shell("ls") into fld 3 No matter which folder I chose, Rev's 'Home' folder is the directory listed. When I cut and paste fld 1 into the Terminal, ls works as expected. What am I doing wrong or is this a 'feature';)? Thanks, Michael OS 10.5.2 2.16 GHz ICD From ambassador at fourthworld.com Thu May 1 19:01:24 2008 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 16:01:24 -0700 Subject: Can't change directory with shell(cd) Message-ID: <481A4BC4.3040009@fourthworld.com> Michael D Mays wrote: > I'm doing this > > answer folder "" > put it into aPath > put "cd "&aPath into aRequest > put aRequest into fld 1 > put shell(aRequest) into fld 2 > put shell("ls") into fld 3 > > No matter which folder I chose, Rev's 'Home' folder is the directory > listed. > When I cut and paste fld 1 into the Terminal, ls works as expected. > > What am I doing wrong or is this a 'feature';)? Does the path need to be in quotes? E.g.: put "cd ""e&aPath"e into aRequest -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal _______________________________________________________ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com From sarah.reichelt at gmail.com Thu May 1 19:04:57 2008 From: sarah.reichelt at gmail.com (Sarah Reichelt) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 09:04:57 +1000 Subject: Can't change directory with shell(cd) In-Reply-To: <2B69DB4D-2935-496A-A69C-61ABEECCA172@mdmays.com> References: <2B69DB4D-2935-496A-A69C-61ABEECCA172@mdmays.com> Message-ID: On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Michael D Mays wrote: > I'm doing this > > answer folder "" > put it into aPath > put "cd "&aPath into aRequest > put aRequest into fld 1 > put shell(aRequest) into fld 2 > put shell("ls") into fld 3 > > No matter which folder I chose, Rev's 'Home' folder is the directory > listed. > When I cut and paste fld 1 into the Terminal, ls works as expected. I found 2 problems with this. Firstly, if the folder name contains a space, this will not work, so I surrounded the aPath with single quotes. Secondly, I think you are using 2 separate instances of the shell as you do the commands in two separate shell calls. If you combine them into a single command and just use one shell call, it works. Here is my edited version of your script: answer folder "" put it into aPath put "cd '" & aPath & "'" into aRequest put aRequest & cr & "ls" into tCmd put shell(tCmd) into fld 1 However, why do you want to use a shell command for this, when the same functionality is built into Revolution commands? You could try something like this: answer folder "" put it into aPath set the defaultfolder to aPath put the files & cr & the folders into fld 1 Cheers, Sarah From sarah.reichelt at gmail.com Thu May 1 20:56:11 2008 From: sarah.reichelt at gmail.com (Sarah Reichelt) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 10:56:11 +1000 Subject: Translating IP address on a local network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > We have a small network behind a NAT router, with IP addresses either > set manually or by DHCP in the format 192.168.1.xxx. > All the computer's are Macs so they also have Bonjour names e.g. > sarah-mac.local. > > I have set up a custom web server based on Andre's RevOnRockets. When > the web server receives a request, the IP address of the requesting > computer is contained in the socket ID. I would like to be able to > translate that to the Bonjour name of the requesting computer as that > would make the logs much more easily read. > > Is there a Mac shell command or any way of getting this data for > addresses inside a local network which are not listed on any DNS or > Directory service? I'm testing a method that works backwards. I use mDNS to give me a list that contains the computer names. Then if I convert these names to Bonjour names, I can ping then, which always gets the IP address from the name. Then I can store that data in a lookup table to use for converting IP addresses back to names. I made this into a standalone and it works fine. So then I set up a crontab entry to have the app run once a day. It runs fine and mDNS gets the list of networked computers, but ping just returns "/bin/sh: line 1: ping command not found". However on the same computer when I run the app manually, it works perfectly. There must be something happening when the app runs as a cron job that is messing with it's mind. Hopefully someone with a better grasp of cron than me, can come up with a solution. Cheers, Sarah From nealk3nc at gmail.com Thu May 1 20:58:39 2008 From: nealk3nc at gmail.com (Neal Campbell) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 20:58:39 -0400 Subject: Translating IP address on a local network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <325413300805011758u5641767en2f0da41860c57c62@mail.gmail.com> You might try using the full directory path for the ping program. I suspect that you are not getting the full shell path applied to the cron since it doesn't seem to find it. Neal On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: > > We have a small network behind a NAT router, with IP addresses either > > set manually or by DHCP in the format 192.168.1.xxx. > > All the computer's are Macs so they also have Bonjour names e.g. > > sarah-mac.local. > > > > I have set up a custom web server based on Andre's RevOnRockets. When > > the web server receives a request, the IP address of the requesting > > computer is contained in the socket ID. I would like to be able to > > translate that to the Bonjour name of the requesting computer as that > > would make the logs much more easily read. > > > > Is there a Mac shell command or any way of getting this data for > > addresses inside a local network which are not listed on any DNS or > > Directory service? > > > I'm testing a method that works backwards. I use mDNS to give me a > list that contains the computer names. Then if I convert these names > to Bonjour names, I can ping then, which always gets the IP address > from the name. Then I can store that data in a lookup table to use for > converting IP addresses back to names. > > I made this into a standalone and it works fine. So then I set up a > crontab entry to have the app run once a day. It runs fine and mDNS > gets the list of networked computers, but ping just returns "/bin/sh: > line 1: ping command not found". However on the same computer when I > run the app manually, it works perfectly. > > There must be something happening when the app runs as a cron job that > is messing with it's mind. Hopefully someone with a better grasp of > cron than me, can come up with a solution. > > Cheers, > > > Sarah > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - introduction priced at $10.99 For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com From sarah.reichelt at gmail.com Thu May 1 21:22:55 2008 From: sarah.reichelt at gmail.com (Sarah Reichelt) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 11:22:55 +1000 Subject: Translating IP address on a local network In-Reply-To: <325413300805011758u5641767en2f0da41860c57c62@mail.gmail.com> References: <325413300805011758u5641767en2f0da41860c57c62@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Neal, Using "/sbin/ping" instead of just "ping" works perfectly :-) Many thanks, Sarah On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Neal Campbell wrote: > You might try using the full directory path for the ping program. I > suspect that you are not getting the full shell path applied to the > cron since it doesn't seem to find it. > > Neal > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: > > > We have a small network behind a NAT router, with IP addresses either > > > set manually or by DHCP in the format 192.168.1.xxx. > > > All the computer's are Macs so they also have Bonjour names e.g. > > > sarah-mac.local. > > > > > > I have set up a custom web server based on Andre's RevOnRockets. When > > > the web server receives a request, the IP address of the requesting > > > computer is contained in the socket ID. I would like to be able to > > > translate that to the Bonjour name of the requesting computer as that > > > would make the logs much more easily read. > > > > > > Is there a Mac shell command or any way of getting this data for > > > addresses inside a local network which are not listed on any DNS or > > > Directory service? > > > > > > I'm testing a method that works backwards. I use mDNS to give me a > > list that contains the computer names. Then if I convert these names > > to Bonjour names, I can ping then, which always gets the IP address > > from the name. Then I can store that data in a lookup table to use for > > converting IP addresses back to names. > > > > I made this into a standalone and it works fine. So then I set up a > > crontab entry to have the app run once a day. It runs fine and mDNS > > gets the list of networked computers, but ping just returns "/bin/sh: > > line 1: ping command not found". However on the same computer when I > > run the app manually, it works perfectly. > > > > There must be something happening when the app runs as a cron job that > > is messing with it's mind. Hopefully someone with a better grasp of > > cron than me, can come up with a solution. From sims at ezpzapps.com Thu May 1 22:05:12 2008 From: sims at ezpzapps.com (Jim Sims) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 04:05:12 +0200 Subject: Fame, Fortune, and... well, less of the fortune... In-Reply-To: <481A1A18.5040905@fourthworld.com> References: <481A1A18.5040905@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: On May 1, 2008, at 9:29 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > How frequently does that happen on your servers? I cannot give figures on that, but it seems rather frequent. After a while I switched to looking for the exact size of the file to indicate downloads. In any event, the most important items is paid customers ;-) Using log files does help in understanding which sites produce the best results. sims ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ClipaSearch Pro http://www.ClipaTools.com Across Platforms - Code and Culture http://www.ezpzapps.com/blog/ From andres at bakno.com Thu May 1 22:30:14 2008 From: andres at bakno.com (Andres Martinez) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 22:30:14 -0400 Subject: Fame, Fortune, and... well, less of the fortune... In-Reply-To: <5BC6215C-1B14-4E18-AFBD-E88B52DD24D2@azurevision.co.uk> References: <07A7B6B6-CC7B-401D-B4D6-5D2A3789BAF3@azurevision.co.uk> <4E23C366-7BBA-47AE-89DD-415FD298549A@azurevision.co.uk> <5BC6215C-1B14-4E18-AFBD-E88B52DD24D2@azurevision.co.uk> Message-ID: <7902A9F7-1493-49AB-B444-FFD85942F822@bakno.com> Congratulations Ian, That speaks very well about your application. And given that you did not lobby Apple for that placement, it also speaks well about Apple fairness to select featured downloads. Regards, Andres Martinez www.baKno.com On May 1, 2008, at 6:02 AM, Ian Wood wrote: > Aperture Assistant just got picked as the Featured Download on the > Apple downloads section! > > http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/ > > Now, if only there were people buying registration keys... :-( > > Ian > > P.S. Does anyone have experience with http://www.ilocalizer.eu? > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From michael.rr at mdmays.com Thu May 1 22:56:42 2008 From: michael.rr at mdmays.com (Michael D Mays) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 21:56:42 -0500 Subject: Can't change directory with shell(cd) In-Reply-To: References: <2B69DB4D-2935-496A-A69C-61ABEECCA172@mdmays.com> Message-ID: <487AE3AA-6478-46BD-A80E-B08FBD3410AB@mdmays.com> It was the two separate shell calls. I had enclosed file name in quotes. I neglected to type them into my email (my variable names in my script were too silly to cut and paste). The reason I was using shell() instead of a built in Rev command were: 1.) I didn't know about it :) 2.) My first objective was to copy a file into a folder. I had used revCopyFile and it was taking 15 seconds to copy a small file. I new I could use ditto and it would be (is) much faster. So I decided to do the rest with shell(). Do you have cr defined as return? Thanks! Michael On May 1, 2008, at 6:04 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Michael D Mays > wrote: >> I'm doing this >> >> answer folder "" >> put it into aPath >> put "cd "&aPath into aRequest >> put aRequest into fld 1 >> put shell(aRequest) into fld 2 >> put shell("ls") into fld 3 >> >> No matter which folder I chose, Rev's 'Home' folder is the directory >> listed. >> When I cut and paste fld 1 into the Terminal, ls works as expected. > > I found 2 problems with this. Firstly, if the folder name contains a > space, this will not work, so I surrounded the aPath with single > quotes. Secondly, I think you are using 2 separate instances of the > shell as you do the commands in two separate shell calls. If you > combine them into a single command and just use one shell call, it > works. > > Here is my edited version of your script: > > answer folder "" > put it into aPath > put "cd '" & aPath & "'" into aRequest > put aRequest & cr & "ls" into tCmd > put shell(tCmd) into fld 1 > > However, why do you want to use a shell command for this, when the > same functionality is built into Revolution commands? You could try > something like this: > > answer folder "" > put it into aPath > set the defaultfolder to aPath > put the files & cr & the folders into fld 1 > > Cheers, > Sarah > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From michael.rr at mdmays.com Thu May 1 23:04:04 2008 From: michael.rr at mdmays.com (Michael D Mays) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 22:04:04 -0500 Subject: Can't change directory with shell(cd) In-Reply-To: <481A4BC4.3040009@fourthworld.com> References: <481A4BC4.3040009@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: Yes you do if you have space and other evil MacOS filename characters. Sarah saw what I was doing wrong. I wonder if each shell call is threaded separately. Thanks, Michael On May 1, 2008, at 6:01 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Michael D Mays wrote: > >> I'm doing this >> answer folder "" >> put it into aPath >> put "cd "&aPath into aRequest >> put aRequest into fld 1 >> put shell(aRequest) into fld 2 >> put shell("ls") into fld 3 >> No matter which folder I chose, Rev's 'Home' folder is the >> directory listed. >> When I cut and paste fld 1 into the Terminal, ls works as expected. >> What am I doing wrong or is this a 'feature';)? > > Does the path need to be in quotes? E.g.: > > put "cd ""e&aPath"e into aRequest > > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Managing Editor, revJournal > _______________________________________________________ > Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From sarah.reichelt at gmail.com Thu May 1 23:06:57 2008 From: sarah.reichelt at gmail.com (Sarah Reichelt) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 13:06:57 +1000 Subject: Can't change directory with shell(cd) In-Reply-To: <487AE3AA-6478-46BD-A80E-B08FBD3410AB@mdmays.com> References: <2B69DB4D-2935-496A-A69C-61ABEECCA172@mdmays.com> <487AE3AA-6478-46BD-A80E-B08FBD3410AB@mdmays.com> Message-ID: > The reason I was using shell() instead of a built in Rev command were: > 1.) I didn't know about it :) > 2.) My first objective was to copy a file into a folder. I had used > revCopyFile and it was taking 15 seconds to copy a small file. I new I > could use ditto and it would be (is) much faster. So I decided to do the > rest with shell(). Something seems wrong there. However if using ditto works for you, then that's fine. I haven't done much with copying files. Moving them is very fast using the rename command, but copying is different. If the files are small you could try: put URL ("binfile:" & tOriginalFile) into URL ("binfile:" & tNewFile) but if they are larger than a few MB, that might not be so good as it reads the entire file into memory before writing it out again. > > Do you have cr defined as return? "cr" is defined in Rev. I prefer using it instead of "return" because "return" also means return a value from a function and I prefer to make sure they are obviously different. And it's shorter to type :-) Cheers, Sarah From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Thu May 1 23:08:59 2008 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 22:08:59 -0500 Subject: Can't change directory with shell(cd) In-Reply-To: <487AE3AA-6478-46BD-A80E-B08FBD3410AB@mdmays.com> References: <2B69DB4D-2935-496A-A69C-61ABEECCA172@mdmays.com> <487AE3AA-6478-46BD-A80E-B08FBD3410AB@mdmays.com> Message-ID: <481A85CB.5030708@hyperactivesw.com> Michael D Mays wrote: > It was the two separate shell calls. I had enclosed file name in quotes. > I neglected to type them into my email (my variable names in my script > were too silly to cut and paste). That reminds me of an error that was built into the HyperCard engine, which reported "Script too silly to execute" (or something like that.) I believe I even saw it once. > Do you have cr defined as return? The engine does. I've taken to using it exclusively for "carriage return" because not only is it shorter to type, it helps differentiate it from the "return" command. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com From JimAultWins at yahoo.com Thu May 1 23:11:40 2008 From: JimAultWins at yahoo.com (Jim Ault) Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 20:11:40 -0700 Subject: Can't change directory with shell(cd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You can also just set the path to another legal folder. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 5/1/08 8:06 PM, "Sarah Reichelt" wrote: >> The reason I was using shell() instead of a built in Rev command were: >> 1.) I didn't know about it :) >> 2.) My first objective was to copy a file into a folder. I had used >> revCopyFile and it was taking 15 seconds to copy a small file. I new I >> could use ditto and it would be (is) much faster. So I decided to do the >> rest with shell(). > > Something seems wrong there. However if using ditto works for you, > then that's fine. > I haven't done much with copying files. Moving them is very fast using > the rename command, but copying is different. If the files are small > you could try: > put URL ("binfile:" & tOriginalFile) into URL ("binfile:" & tNewFile) > but if they are larger than a few MB, that might not be so good as it > reads the entire file into memory before writing it out again. > >> >> Do you have cr defined as return? > > "cr" is defined in Rev. I prefer using it instead of "return" because > "return" also means return a value from a function and I prefer to > make sure they are obviously different. And it's shorter to type :-) > > Cheers, > Sarah > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From tereza at califex.com Thu May 1 23:33:29 2008 From: tereza at califex.com (Tereza Snyder) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 22:33:29 -0500 Subject: Reading commands from Apple's remote control In-Reply-To: <7c87a2a10804300853y7ae8fa37s222c3858f3b24f78@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c87a2a10804300853y7ae8fa37s222c3858f3b24f78@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Apr 30, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > I?ve checked Apples docs for calling objective-C/cocoa from C/Carbon > applications, I understand that externals are in a sense carbon > applications, I can make cocoa console apps that work with the remote, > I can make externals but I can?t mix those :-/ Yes you can! I've done it... but long ago enough that I've forgotten the details. I'll bring my source to RevLive and you can see how it's done. t From sarah.reichelt at gmail.com Fri May 2 00:52:21 2008 From: sarah.reichelt at gmail.com (Sarah Reichelt) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 14:52:21 +1000 Subject: Reading commands from Apple's remote control In-Reply-To: References: <7c87a2a10804300853y7ae8fa37s222c3858f3b24f78@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > I?ve checked Apples docs for calling objective-C/cocoa from C/Carbon > > applications, I understand that externals are in a sense carbon > > applications, I can make cocoa console apps that work with the remote, > > I can make externals but I can?t mix those :-/ > > > > > Yes you can! I've done it... but long ago enough that I've forgotten the > details. I'll bring my source to RevLive and you can see how it's done. Sob.... I won't be there :-( But I'd love to have a look at your scripts if you don't mind emailing them to be off-list. Cheers, Sarah From kray at sonsothunder.com Fri May 2 02:31:57 2008 From: kray at sonsothunder.com (Ken Ray) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 01:31:57 -0500 Subject: Can't change directory with shell(cd) In-Reply-To: <2B69DB4D-2935-496A-A69C-61ABEECCA172@mdmays.com> Message-ID: On 5/1/08 5:54 PM, "Michael D Mays" wrote: > I'm doing this > > answer folder "" > put it into aPath > put "cd "&aPath into aRequest > put aRequest into fld 1 > put shell(aRequest) into fld 2 > put shell("ls") into fld 3 > > No matter which folder I chose, Rev's 'Home' folder is the directory > listed. > When I cut and paste fld 1 into the Terminal, ls works as expected. > > What am I doing wrong or is this a 'feature';)? The problem is that you're doing two separate shell calls, each one evaluated based on the current folder (which is Rev's Home folder). You need to make a single shell call that does both tasks. For Mac, that means separating them by semicolons: put shell("cd /;ls") This will get a directory listing of the root drive. For Windows, you need to use an ampersand instead of a semicolon, like this: put shell("cd c:\ & dir") From michael.rr at mdmays.com Fri May 2 07:10:46 2008 From: michael.rr at mdmays.com (Michael D Mays) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 06:10:46 -0500 Subject: Can't change directory with shell(cd) In-Reply-To: References: <2B69DB4D-2935-496A-A69C-61ABEECCA172@mdmays.com> <487AE3AA-6478-46BD-A80E-B08FBD3410AB@mdmays.com> Message-ID: <914E1312-935F-4E67-8C50-26F965F4F414@mdmays.com> Richard Hillen in September of last year was claiming on this list 25 seconds to do a revcopyfile. I typed CR into the dictionary and couldn't find it. I think I must have added an extra " or quote when I was typing. Michael On May 1, 2008, at 10:06 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: >> The reason I was using shell() instead of a built in Rev command >> were: >> 1.) I didn't know about it :) >> 2.) My first objective was to copy a file into a folder. I had used >> revCopyFile and it was taking 15 seconds to copy a small file. I >> new I >> could use ditto and it would be (is) much faster. So I decided to >> do the >> rest with shell(). > > Something seems wrong there. However if using ditto works for you, > then that's fine. > I haven't done much with copying files. Moving them is very fast using > the rename command, but copying is different. If the files are small > you could try: > put URL ("binfile:" & tOriginalFile) into URL ("binfile:" & > tNewFile) > but if they are larger than a few MB, that might not be so good as it > reads the entire file into memory before writing it out again. > >> >> Do you have cr defined as return? > > "cr" is defined in Rev. I prefer using it instead of "return" because > "return" also means return a value from a function and I prefer to > make sure they are obviously different. And it's shorter to type :-) > > Cheers, > Sarah > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From shari at gypsyware.com Fri May 2 09:09:51 2008 From: shari at gypsyware.com (Shari) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 09:09:51 -0400 Subject: Launching a web page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Hi Shari, > >Open up the Rev IDE and have a look at the scripts in the revCommon >library which you can get to using the Backscripts section of the >Message box. It contains the scripts for revGoURL and various other >Windows-related handlers. You might be able to work out how Rev does >it and and see if you can adapt this to your needs. > >Cheers, >Sarah Thank you, Sarah. You give me hope :-) I'll definitely check out the handlers there. I had been trying to find handlers in an old libUrl stack then realized that the reason everybody "rolled their own" was because there was no built in call for this. By the way, "launch url" and all the home-rolled handlers work like a charm on Mac. It's that Win-Thing causing the fits. I did learn something however from the failed attempts. The process I was using to go thru several attempts had a flaw. If one fails, try another is great but for one thing. If the first attempt failed, it left the process open and other attempts would throw up a "process already open" error. So after each failed attempt, I now have it close the processes before attempting the next method. Many years ago, the original methods (whatever was the first method tried) must have been the successful ones because I never encountered an error. Just success. And in the past five years, nobody has ever emailed me and told me they could not access the web page from within the application. :-) Shari -- Humorous sports t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com From kray at sonsothunder.com Fri May 2 12:07:41 2008 From: kray at sonsothunder.com (Ken Ray) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 11:07:41 -0500 Subject: Launching a web page In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 5/1/08 11:41 AM, "Shari" wrote: > This is crazy. My code for launching a web page worked happily for > many years up until ??? Now it's broken and I can't seem to fix it. > 3. put word 1 to -2 of \ > > queryRegistry("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Classes\http\shell\open\command\") Hmm... I just use word 1, not word 1 to -2, and the above works for me; try changing it to just use word 1, and see if that works... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: kray at sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ From david at openpartnership.net Fri May 2 13:43:30 2008 From: david at openpartnership.net (David Bovill) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 18:43:30 +0100 Subject: Fixing MacOS File Names for a NAS Message-ID: Just got a shiny new NAS. Copying over files from USB drives on the Mac and I come across the old too long / funny character problem... "?" and "/" and so forth not allowed. I thought this would have been fixed on the Linus based file servers by now - but not. Anyone got a solution - there are thousands of files to copy - or a script - or a reference to figure out all the different chars that needs fixing? From kray at sonsothunder.com Fri May 2 14:29:19 2008 From: kray at sonsothunder.com (Ken Ray) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 13:29:19 -0500 Subject: Fixing MacOS File Names for a NAS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Anyone got a solution - there are thousands of files to copy - or a script - > or a reference to figure out all the different chars that needs fixing? Sorry, David, I ran into the same thing and ended up buying a Time Capsule for Mac backup and dedicated my original NAS to PC backup... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: kray at sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ From revdev at pdslabs.net Fri May 2 14:36:51 2008 From: revdev at pdslabs.net (Phil Davis) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 11:36:51 -0700 Subject: Fixing MacOS File Names for a NAS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <481B5F43.6050005@pdslabs.net> You could probably use StuffIt to copy everything (and then perform scheduled backups) to the NAS, assuming it would change filenames along the way. Ken Ray wrote: >> Anyone got a solution - there are thousands of files to copy - or a script - >> or a reference to figure out all the different chars that needs fixing? >> > > Sorry, David, I ran into the same thing and ended up buying a Time Capsule > for Mac backup and dedicated my original NAS to PC backup... > > Ken Ray > Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. > Email: kray at sonsothunder.com > Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ > -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net From david at openpartnership.net Fri May 2 15:42:37 2008 From: david at openpartnership.net (David Bovill) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 20:42:37 +0100 Subject: Fixing MacOS File Names for a NAS In-Reply-To: <481B5F43.6050005@pdslabs.net> References: <481B5F43.6050005@pdslabs.net> Message-ID: Hmmm... my blind faith in progress is shattered :( Well - not going to give up on my 4 Terabites yet - its not going to be for everything I guess - but I'll settle for the media archive - seems that iTunes is going to be OK - but the EyeTV archive is definitely not based on the way the files are named. I'm going to start by replacing "?/" with "_". Any other chars? Wander how long the names can be.... 2008/5/2 Phil Davis : > You could probably use StuffIt to copy everything (and then perform > scheduled backups) to the NAS, assuming it would change filenames along the > way. > > Ken Ray wrote: > > > Anyone got a solution - there are thousands of files to copy - or a > > > script - > > > or a reference to figure out all the different chars that needs > > > fixing? > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, David, I ran into the same thing and ended up buying a Time > > Capsule > > for Mac backup and dedicated my original NAS to PC backup... > > > > Ken Ray > > Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. > > Email: kray at sonsothunder.com > > Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ > > > > > -- > Phil Davis > > PDS Labs > Professional Software Development > http://pdslabs.net > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From simplsol at aol.com Fri May 2 18:11:48 2008 From: simplsol at aol.com (Paul Looney) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 15:11:48 -0700 Subject: Fixing MacOS File Names for a NAS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David, I had similar problems - and many others - with Linux NAS. Went with a Mac Mini, a Firewire HD and TimeMachine. More reliable and MUCH faster. Paul Looney On May 2, 2008, at 10:43 AM, David Bovill wrote: > Just got a shiny new NAS. Copying over files from USB drives on the > Mac and > I come across the old too long / funny character problem... "?" and > "/" and > so forth not allowed. I thought this would have been fixed on the > Linus > based file servers by now - but not. > > Anyone got a solution - there are thousands of files to copy - or a > script - > or a reference to figure out all the different chars that needs > fixing? > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From tereza at califex.com Fri May 2 19:01:27 2008 From: tereza at califex.com (Tereza Snyder) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 18:01:27 -0500 Subject: Reading commands from Apple's remote control In-Reply-To: References: <7c87a2a10804300853y7ae8fa37s222c3858f3b24f78@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <39AFE643-1CB7-402F-8E2D-57BE41406A1D@califex.com> On May 1, 2008, at 11:52 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: >>> I?ve checked Apples docs for calling objective-C/cocoa from C/Carbon >>> applications, I understand that externals are in a sense carbon >>> applications, I can make cocoa console apps that work with the >>> remote, >>> I can make externals but I can?t mix those :-/ >>> >> >> >> Yes you can! I've done it... but long ago enough that I've >> forgotten the >> details. I'll bring my source to RevLive and you can see how it's >> done. > > Sob.... I won't be there :-( > > But I'd love to have a look at your scripts if you don't mind emailing > them to be off-list. I'll do my best to renew my memory of how I got Cocoa calls to work in Carbon external. It's mainly a matter of setting up xCode juuuust so, if I recall; but I haven't touched an external for many moons (been Rev scripting like mad and learning Python) and it all seems like a dream now. t From lan.kc.macmail at gmail.com Fri May 2 20:48:59 2008 From: lan.kc.macmail at gmail.com (Kay C Lan) Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 08:48:59 +0800 Subject: Fixing MacOS File Names for a NAS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 6:11 AM, Paul Looney wrote: > David, > I had similar problems - and many others - with Linux NAS. > Went with a Mac Mini, a Firewire HD and TimeMachine. More reliable and > MUCH faster. > Ahh speed. Here's an alternative that's a little expensive, especially as it's only USB. If it were Firewire 800, gigabit ethernet or eSATA I'd probably cough up the moolah: http://www.drobo.com/products_demo.aspx Still, very interesting. From lan.kc.macmail at gmail.com Fri May 2 20:56:20 2008 From: lan.kc.macmail at gmail.com (Kay C Lan) Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 08:56:20 +0800 Subject: Fame, Fortune, and... well, less of the fortune... In-Reply-To: References: <4819E2D1.9030705@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:00 AM, Ian Wood wrote: > > Here's the results for all versions both beta and final over the last > three weeks (it was a short beta): > > I think Bill can help with that;-) Congratulations. From shari at gypsyware.com Fri May 2 20:57:11 2008 From: shari at gypsyware.com (Shari) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 20:57:11 -0400 Subject: Launching a web page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > 3. put word 1 to -2 of \ >> >> >>queryRegistry("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Classes\http\shell\open\command\") > >Hmm... I just use word 1, not word 1 to -2, and the above works for me; try >changing it to just use word 1, and see if that works... > >Ken Ray >Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. >Email: kray at sonsothunder.com >Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Thank you, Ken! I will definitely give it a whirl! And I will post back with my results for the record, in case anybody else searches the archives with this issue :-) Shari -- Humorous sports t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com From simplsol at aol.com Fri May 2 22:50:05 2008 From: simplsol at aol.com (Paul Looney) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 19:50:05 -0700 Subject: Fixing MacOS File Names for a NAS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Actually it IS gigabit ethernet (with the $200 droboshare attachment). Paul Looney On May 2, 2008, at 5:48 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: > On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 6:11 AM, Paul Looney wrote: > >> David, >> I had similar problems - and many others - with Linux NAS. >> Went with a Mac Mini, a Firewire HD and TimeMachine. More reliable >> and >> MUCH faster. >> > > Ahh speed. Here's an alternative that's a little expensive, > especially as > it's only USB. If it were Firewire 800, gigabit ethernet or eSATA I'd > probably cough up the moolah: > > http://www.drobo.com/products_demo.aspx > > Still, very interesting. > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From lan.kc.macmail at gmail.com Fri May 2 23:23:16 2008 From: lan.kc.macmail at gmail.com (Kay C Lan) Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 11:23:16 +0800 Subject: Fixing MacOS File Names for a NAS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Paul Looney wrote: > Actually it IS gigabit ethernet (with the $200 droboshare attachment). > My understanding is it isn't. I believe the Droboshare is gigabit but it connects to the Drobo by the same old USB connection as if you'd connected direct to your computer, so my impression is that it is still restricted to USB speeds - a shame considering you fill it with SATA drives. Even if I'm wrong, at $700 for an empty enclosure plus the attachment so you can shared via wired and wifi networks doesn't seem to compete too well with a 1TB TimeCapsule. Actually, you could pick up a Mac Mini for less than $200 and just plug the Drobo into that and achieve similar (no wifi) for less. I think I'll wait for the Chinese to copy it, then wait for the Taiwanese to improve it with true gigabit connection or direct eSATA and then buy for less ;-) From jeff at siphonophore.com Sat May 3 15:18:22 2008 From: jeff at siphonophore.com (Jeff Reynolds) Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 15:18:22 -0400 Subject: Image discoloration in 2.8.1 In-Reply-To: <20080502170005.F39BF489BA9@mail.runrev.com> References: <20080502170005.F39BF489BA9@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: HI, i have been finishing up a museum project in rev 2.8.1. I didn't want to flip to 2.9 until this was done as 2.8 was being totally stable on development of this and its a pretty simple application and i was in a huge rush. just noticed one odd thing though that i think i saw a long time ago in another version of rev. when i have a background picture and then place a smaller image on top of it thats the same as the image behind it i notice a slight contrast change occur in the smaller image on top (so you end up being able to see where the edges of the top image are). the smaller image was cut out of the same file as the background image and i have tried this with all file formats and get the same result. i can take the smaller image back from the file into the background image in photoshop and they merge perfectly so its not that there is a lot of degradation going on in creating the background and foreground images. the odd thing is that the smaller the foreground image the more it seems to get tweaked. luckily i have been able to work around this using some transparent gifs and knocking image edges back to places where you dont notice any contrast change of the foreground piece (mainly using this to pop some buttons in on top of the background pattern for the interface screen. have not had the time to test in 2.9 yet (opening is may 10 so no fooling till exhibit is up and running happily), but was wondering if others have noticed this and if its still happening at all in 2.9. its something you dont notice until you put a smaller section of the same image over the top of the same image in the correct registration. also seems to be more noticeable in some images/patterns/colors/contrasts than others... otherwise revolution is doing swimmingly at the task again of handling data for presentation of 1000 video clips in the exhibit and doing telnet control of a video player! actually thought i would not program this one for once and farm it out, got some pretty crazy price bids to do the job that has taken me a week or two to do in revolution! now i see why my clients are always so happy to pay my fees for programming stuff like this for them in revolution, they are obviously getting other (non revolution based) bids and i am only charging them for the time i do, not the competitive total bid cost! Jeffrey Reynolds From sanke at hrz.uni-kassel.de Sat May 3 16:47:38 2008 From: sanke at hrz.uni-kassel.de (Wilhelm Sanke) Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 22:47:38 +0200 Subject: Image discoloration in 2.8.1 Message-ID: <481CCF6A.8020309@hrz.uni-kassel.de> On Sat May 3, 2008, Jeff Reynolds jeff at siphonophore.com wrote: > HI, > > i have been finishing up a museum project in rev 2.8.1. I didn't want > to flip to 2.9 until this was done as 2.8 was being totally stable on > development of this and its a pretty simple application and i was in a > huge rush. > > just noticed one odd thing though that i think i saw a long time ago > in another version of rev. when i have a background picture and then > place a smaller image on top of it thats the same as the image behind > it i notice a slight contrast change occur in the smaller image on top > (so you end up being able to see where the edges of the top image > are). the smaller image was cut out of the same file as the background > image and i have tried this with all file formats and get the same > result. i can take the smaller image back from the file into the > background image in photoshop and they merge perfectly so its not that > there is a lot of degradation going on in creating the background and > foreground images. > > the odd thing is that the smaller the foreground image the more it > seems to get tweaked. > > have not had the time to test in 2.9 yet (opening is may 10 so no > fooling till exhibit is up and running happily), but was wondering if > others have noticed this and if its still happening at all in 2.9. I created a stack with an imported JPG-image and put two snapshots - a larger and smaller snapshot of the imported image - on top of the image. The two superimposed smaller images merge perfectly both with engine 2.8.1 and 2.9 (using the Metacard IDE) without contrast changes or other color distortions. This is on Windows XP. Regards, Wilhelm Sanke From andre at andregarzia.com Sat May 3 17:15:10 2008 From: andre at andregarzia.com (Andre Garzia) Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 18:15:10 -0300 Subject: Fame, Fortune, and... well, less of the fortune... In-Reply-To: References: <4819E2D1.9030705@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: <7c87a2a10805031415x5daf94efib00c8e3c3aebbebf@mail.gmail.com> Ian, That software is looking so good that it makes me want to use aperture just to use it! :D Congratulations! :D Have you considered Maczot.com ? It appears a nice oportunity for exposure and impulse buying of your shareware! cheers andre -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. From mkoob at rogers.com Sat May 3 18:05:37 2008 From: mkoob at rogers.com (M Koob) Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 22:05:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: 2.9 Freeze on OSX References: <1257263B-6F1F-4926-BF6C-E55A3D212826@comcast.net> <6F5B72C104B0C2449B024F83100E4F830136F771@EVSSTAFF2.livad.liv.ac.uk> <170CE31F-6FD0-4D28-ADFF-B4287C4D27D0@comcast.net> <48061D19.2080100@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: I have had this issue with saving stacks and I agree it seems to be random. I am using a 15" MacBook Pro (Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2 GHz). I have read over the posts in this thread to see if there are any clues. Some of the possible causes that have been suggested don't apply to my situation. I have tried to eliminate any of the issues that have been raised as possible factors and I still get a crash randomly. I don't think Login items are an issue -In my regular user account I have only two login items -Snapz Pro -itunes Helper I don't have any of the software installed that others have mentioned namely -EyeTV plugin -USBOverdrive -xKeys iKey -iStat and yet I still get crashes so I don't think any of these is the real culprit. After reading the posts about corrupt preference files and permissions, I created a brand new user account to ensure new preferences files were created. I also ran disk utility to repair permissions. I doubt it would be permissions anyway since most of the time the files will save without a freeze. The freeze is random. Also as a basic form of versioning I continually make duplicates of of my revolution stacks in the Finder and rename them with a higher version number and then open these and work on the new file. These files should have their permissions set correctly as the user that created them in the Finder is also the one opening and saving them in Revolution Studio. I also ensured that there were no login items in this new user account. After working must of the day ii this configuration I got another freeze. One interesting thing is that the freeze is not a total system freeze. It is just the video that is frozen and Revolution is hung, and the keyboard is not responsive ie. can't force quit with key combo. Other processes and apps continue to run in the background. I can login to the frozen Mac Book Pro remotely with terminal running on another Mac that is on the local network and run commands line commands to look at running processes ie. top and ps. I can also 'kill' Revolution remotely from the command line but that does not allow me to use the Mac again, the screen is still frozen. I can also issue a command to shutdown remotely and the Mac shuts down. I have used Revoultion studio 2.8.1 prior to this to work on my application and never had any freezes. This only started happening with 2.9. The stack that I have been working on has 3 Players that play quicktime movies, One of those players is in a substack that is opened as a palette periodically. I wonder, since it seems that it is the video that freezes, if it is something to do with the quicktime movies. Another possible issue is that the stack is larger than the Mac Book Pro's display. The application is targeted for a 20" iMac but I develop on the 15" Mac Book Pro so portions of the stack windows are off screen. Again this was the case when I was working on the application with 2.8.1 so it is a new issue with 2.9. I won't be going to Runrev live this month but I hope that someone who is experiencing the freezes is going and can demonstate it to the developers. I am using the workarounds suggested (such as saving by script instead of with the menu or key combination) to avoid the crashes but it creates extra work and sometimes you slip up. Hopefully there will be a fix for this soon. Martin From janschenkel at yahoo.com Sun May 4 01:25:02 2008 From: janschenkel at yahoo.com (Jan Schenkel) Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 22:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Image discoloration in 2.8.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <124706.63293.qm@web65416.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> --- Jeff Reynolds wrote: > HI, > > i have been finishing up a museum project in rev > 2.8.1. I didn't want > to flip to 2.9 until this was done as 2.8 was being > totally stable on > development of this and its a pretty simple > application and i was in a > huge rush. > > just noticed one odd thing though that i think i saw > a long time ago > in another version of rev. when i have a background > picture and then > place a smaller image on top of it thats the same as > the image behind > it i notice a slight contrast change occur in the > smaller image on top > (so you end up being able to see where the edges of > the top image > are). the smaller image was cut out of the same file > as the background > image and i have tried this with all file formats > and get the same > result. i can take the smaller image back from the > file into the > background image in photoshop and they merge > perfectly so its not that > there is a lot of degradation going on in creating > the background and > foreground images. > > [snip] > > Jeffrey Reynolds > Hi Jeffrey, Is it possible that the image are (partially) transparent? That would explain why the colors are 'off', as the underlying image 'bleeds through' to the top one. Jan Schenkel. Quartam Reports & PDF Library for Revolution ===== "As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time." (La Rochefoucauld) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From jeff at siphonophore.com Sun May 4 14:22:04 2008 From: jeff at siphonophore.com (Jeff Reynolds) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 14:22:04 -0400 Subject: Image discoloration in 2.8.1 In-Reply-To: <20080504170006.10A19488E7D@mail.runrev.com> References: <20080504170006.10A19488E7D@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: <493F0BB3-52A8-4F26-96F6-8045C4445994@siphonophore.com> Wilhelm, thanks forgot to mention im doing this project on Mac OSX 10.5. you did jog my memory that when i had the same problem in the past that it was on win xp and worked fine on the mac. i did a cdrom last fall in rev 2.6 (to do mac classic versions) and did not have this problem. wish i had the time to trouble shoot this throughly now or bump to 2.9, but got to get this done and i have the temp workaround for the project, but is really bugs me when i find these things and want to know where the problem is and find a real solution to it, not a bandage! cheers, jeff On May 4, 2008, at 1:00 PM, use-revolution-request at lists.runrev.com wrote: > I created a stack with an imported JPG-image and put two snapshots - a > larger and smaller snapshot of the imported image - on top of the > image. > > The two superimposed smaller images merge perfectly both with engine > 2.8.1 and 2.9 (using the Metacard IDE) without contrast changes or > other > color distortions. This is on Windows XP. > > Regards, > > Wilhelm Sanke From scott at tactilemedia.com Sun May 4 14:33:12 2008 From: scott at tactilemedia.com (Scott Rossi) Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 11:33:12 -0700 Subject: Image discoloration in 2.8.1 In-Reply-To: <493F0BB3-52A8-4F26-96F6-8045C4445994@siphonophore.com> Message-ID: Recently, Jeff Reynolds wrote: > wish i had the time to trouble shoot this throughly now or bump to > 2.9, but got to get this done and i have the temp workaround for the > project, but is really bugs me when i find these things and want to > know where the problem is and find a real solution to it, not a bandage! Usually, this is an issue with PNG images created with Adobe apps. Photoshop generates PNG images with gamma information that is ignored (or read?) by Revolution, resulting in a slight colorshift from the actual colors used in the original PS document. If this is indeed the problem, the two workarounds that have been posted in the past are 1) make sure all images/colored objects used in a stack are in PNG format, or 2) try using a Windows app called PngOptimizer to strip gamma information from all PNG images used in the stack (or those in which colorshift is visible). See this post for more details: http://www.nabble.com/-Not-Quite-OT---Possible-Fix-for-PNG-Color-Shift-to125 11893.html#a12511893 Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design From jeff at siphonophore.com Sun May 4 14:38:32 2008 From: jeff at siphonophore.com (Jeff Reynolds) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 14:38:32 -0400 Subject: Image discoloration in 2.8.1 In-Reply-To: <20080504170006.10A19488E7D@mail.runrev.com> References: <20080504170006.10A19488E7D@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: Jan, thanks, but these are gif and jpeg files so no partial transparency there. i can recombine the two jpegs in any graphics program and they merge perfectly. checked the rev blend first thing since i had done a button hi light using a blended mask, but the images were all at blend 0 that were doing this. also i have noticed that the major deviation in the top (cut out part of the bg image) image is mainly a darkening line around the top and bottom edges of the image and this is what is causing the image to not merge perfectly with the background. the stuff in the middle of the image looks like it matches the bg image. the left and right edges look fine and merge. this odd for me as i have used this same technique of layering buttons and hilight images to build interface screens on top of background textures and images in metacard since the beginning for many yeare now! cheers, jeff On May 4, 2008, at 1:00 PM, use-revolution-request at lists.runrev.com wrote: > Hi Jeffrey, > > Is it possible that the image are (partially) > transparent? That would explain why the colors are > 'off', as the underlying image 'bleeds through' to the > top one. > > Jan Schenkel. From JimAultWins at yahoo.com Sun May 4 15:20:14 2008 From: JimAultWins at yahoo.com (Jim Ault) Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 12:20:14 -0700 Subject: Image discoloration in 2.8.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I know that Photoshop manages color spaces and this information is embedded in files that it generates. Rev does not use this info (does not know how) and so the RGB values will not be exactly the same, and each will be shifted a different value. I did some color work a year ago when I built a light table in Rev and had to deal with this. I used a quick workaround that I don't recall at the moment, but the graphics gurus should be able to help you here. Since it involved color space management and rendering, I had to be very specific in my solution. One key for me was to chose the right color space in Photoshop. Again, I don't recall exactly what I did. Hope this helps. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 5/4/08 11:38 AM, "Jeff Reynolds" wrote: > Jan, > > thanks, but these are gif and jpeg files so no partial transparency > there. i can recombine the two jpegs in any graphics program and they > merge perfectly. checked the rev blend first thing since i had done a > button hi light using a blended mask, but the images were all at blend > 0 that were doing this. > > also i have noticed that the major deviation in the top (cut out part > of the bg image) image is mainly a darkening line around the top and > bottom edges of the image and this is what is causing the image to not > merge perfectly with the background. the stuff in the middle of the > image looks like it matches the bg image. the left and right edges > look fine and merge. > > this odd for me as i have used this same technique of layering buttons > and hilight images to build interface screens on top of background > textures and images in metacard since the beginning for many yeare now! > > cheers, > > jeff > > On May 4, 2008, at 1:00 PM, use-revolution-request at lists.runrev.com > wrote: > >> Hi Jeffrey, >> >> Is it possible that the image are (partially) >> transparent? That would explain why the colors are >> 'off', as the underlying image 'bleeds through' to the >> top one. >> >> Jan Schenkel. > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From david at openpartnership.net Sun May 4 17:29:07 2008 From: david at openpartnership.net (David Bovill) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 22:29:07 +0100 Subject: Script references to moving files? Message-ID: Strange question - not sure how to express it otherwise. It's a common enough thing to need though. Your scripts want a reference to an external file, but the user may have moved it in the file system - so you have to relink the file / update your data.... Now this is what an alias / shortcut does - or at least certain types of alias / shortcut. So its possible I guess. Now how can Rev scripts do this? My first thought is to create a alias of the files, put them into a folder somewhere and associate these aliases with the metadata. Your script knows where the alias is (its fixed) and can at least on Macs figure out (using AppleScript) where the file is.... should work a lot of the time (not if file is copied) - no? How about on Windows? From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Sun May 4 18:02:33 2008 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 00:02:33 +0200 Subject: Script references to moving files? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David, What kind of files are you thinking of? I can think of two kinds: 1) documents: there is no need to remember where these are stored, because they are opened by double-clicking them or from within the programme and if they move while they are open in the programme, you just restore them the first next time they are saved by the programme; 2) components: if they are missing, simply show an error message telling the user to re-install the software. If a file is not either (1) or (2), then make it so by importing it. You can store an external file as part of a document or you can turn a file into a component and save it in a dedicated folder inside the documents/pictures/movies/etc foldet. Don't make things too complex. You might lose yourself completely in this kind of stuff because you can never tell what a user is going to do. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Our servers may be off-line between 28 April and 1 May. If you have an urgent request, you can contact us at . Apologies for any inconveniences. On 4 mei 2008, at 23:29, David Bovill wrote: > Strange question - not sure how to express it otherwise. It's a common > enough thing to need though. Your scripts want a reference to an > external > file, but the user may have moved it in the file system - so you > have to > relink the file / update your data.... > > Now this is what an alias / shortcut does - or at least certain > types of > alias / shortcut. So its possible I guess. > > Now how can Rev scripts do this? My first thought is to create a > alias of > the files, put them into a folder somewhere and associate these > aliases with > the metadata. Your script knows where the alias is (its fixed) and > can at > least on Macs figure out (using AppleScript) where the file is.... > should > work a lot of the time (not if file is copied) - no? How about on > Windows? From david at openpartnership.net Sun May 4 18:32:14 2008 From: david at openpartnership.net (David Bovill) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 23:32:14 +0100 Subject: Script references to moving files? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/5/4 Mark Schonewille : > > What kind of files are you thinking of? At the moment I am working on a video archive - so the files are various types of video and media. I want to associate these files with metadata as you do. And I want the ability for the user to move these fields around on their network however they want - at least within the same drive, but ideally also to another drive on the network. This is the aim / ideal. There are a few ways of getting close. I've looked at Spotlight = bit want something that works cross platform. I like the way EyeTV uses bundles to enclose the metadata - in fact I am thinking of using that format as my media storage format. For normal video / quicktime files I have been storing the metadata in an XML file / database based for now on the file name. That's the bit I want to change to make it independent of file name / path so users can move / rename the files. So I have been experimenting with types of "finger print" - the sort of thing I guess Apple DVD player uses to store BookMarks for DVDs.... which may work out (I wish I could find out how Apple does this - its a call to a framework but what exactly does the framework do with a DVD?) End of story is - I was thinking of using aliases in the mix - they can be used to link the metadata file to the video file. I'm not sure. All I know is that I am going to be moving and renaming these media files all over the place the next few weeks and i want to keep the metadata associated with them - and I don't want to be forced to use a home rolled GUI to do all the reorganising, I also bet Spotlight won't work with the NAS. From niconiko at gmail.com Sun May 4 20:04:48 2008 From: niconiko at gmail.com (Nicolas Cueto) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 09:04:48 +0900 Subject: tool tip font Message-ID: <1e91b2b70805041704q4edeeb50x6405bbae18cdb1bd@mail.gmail.com> Hello, Can a tool tip's font (name, size, color, style) be set? Thanks. -- Nicolas Cueto From kee at kagi.com Sun May 4 21:07:06 2008 From: kee at kagi.com (Kee Nethery) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 18:07:06 -0700 Subject: Select All in fields In-Reply-To: <1e91b2b70805041704q4edeeb50x6405bbae18cdb1bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <1e91b2b70805041704q4edeeb50x6405bbae18cdb1bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <916626D8-B062-4ECC-94A0-193B39948021@kagi.com> Cut Copy Paste and Clear are in the Edit menu of my standalone Mac app. I'd like to add "Select All" and am wondering if there is some standard way of doing this. I can think of how to code it myself but it seems like such a standard thing that it makes me wonder if there is some checkbox I need to select to just make it happen. Thanks in advance, Kee Nethery From kray at sonsothunder.com Sun May 4 23:35:58 2008 From: kray at sonsothunder.com (Ken Ray) Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 22:35:58 -0500 Subject: Select All in fields In-Reply-To: <916626D8-B062-4ECC-94A0-193B39948021@kagi.com> Message-ID: > Cut Copy Paste and Clear are in the Edit menu of my standalone Mac > app. I'd like to add "Select All" and am wondering if there is some > standard way of doing this. I can think of how to code it myself but > it seems like such a standard thing that it makes me wonder if there > is some checkbox I need to select to just make it happen. Not a "one click" thing, Kee... but it's a one-liner if all you care about is basic editable fields (i.e. not list fields): if the selectedField is not empty then \ select the text of the selectedField HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: kray at sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ From kray at sonsothunder.com Sun May 4 23:37:20 2008 From: kray at sonsothunder.com (Ken Ray) Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 22:37:20 -0500 Subject: tool tip font In-Reply-To: <1e91b2b70805041704q4edeeb50x6405bbae18cdb1bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Can a tool tip's font (name, size, color, style) be set? Not AFAIK... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: kray at sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ From jiml at netrin.com Mon May 5 00:41:40 2008 From: jiml at netrin.com (Jim Lambert) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 21:41:40 -0700 Subject: 2.9 Freeze on OSX In-Reply-To: <20080504170006.10A19488E7D@mail.runrev.com> References: <20080504170006.10A19488E7D@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: <7EDD4ECE-FC39-46D2-BD22-8623A682D802@netrin.com> On May 4, 2008, at 10:00 AM, use-revolution-request at lists.runrev.com wrote: > I won't be going to Runrev live this month but I hope that someone > who > is experiencing the freezes is going and can demonstate it to the > developers. I won't be going either :( But am also experiencing these random 2.9 freezes on a macBook Pro. I've found that if you wait and wait and wait the machine often un- freezes. 1 - 2 minutes. Jim Lambert From geradamas at yahoo.com Mon May 5 08:07:47 2008 From: geradamas at yahoo.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 13:07:47 +0100 (BST) Subject: tool tip font Message-ID: <24894.64208.qm@web37507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> BUT . . . You can do the following: on mouseEnter set the vis of img "ToolTip1" to true end mouseEnter on mouseExit set the vis of img "ToolTip1" to false end mouseExit where image "ToolTip1" can be an image of text set to any size, colour, style that you like. The image should, obviously, both overlap and be on a higher layer than the object it is 'tooltipping' (oof, now there's a nasty new verb). I know the whole thing is a bit tedious (especially if you want everything to have tooltips in size 36 purple italic), but it does work. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com Mon May 5 08:51:17 2008 From: eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com (Eric Chatonet) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 14:51:17 +0200 Subject: tool tip font In-Reply-To: <1e91b2b70805041704q4edeeb50x6405bbae18cdb1bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <1e91b2b70805041704q4edeeb50x6405bbae18cdb1bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <90B77C74-2529-489D-B85C-7FE037AE323E@sosmartsoftware.com> Bonjour Nicolas, Le 5 mai 08 ? 02:04, Nicolas Cueto a ?crit : > Can a tool tip's font (name, size, color, style) be set? As Ken said, it's not possible but you can fake it: Have a look at the Revolution Search Engine (2.9 help menu). One of the substacks of revSearchEngine, named 'RSEDisplayInfo', fakes a large tooltip (with style, color and the fonts you want). You display this stack when selecting a stack in the RevOnLine, RevNet or Web Database list. The dimensions of this stack are set on the fly according to the tooltip contents. It's a better way than using images: too much work, too heavy, not multilingual, etc. You should get started with this. Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------- From 3mcgrath at comcast.net Mon May 5 09:10:08 2008 From: 3mcgrath at comcast.net (Thomas McGrath III) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 09:10:08 -0400 Subject: 2.9 Freeze on OSX In-Reply-To: <7EDD4ECE-FC39-46D2-BD22-8623A682D802@netrin.com> References: <20080504170006.10A19488E7D@mail.runrev.com> <7EDD4ECE-FC39-46D2-BD22-8623A682D802@netrin.com> Message-ID: I have left the frozen Mac sitting all night on two occasions and it did not un-freeze for me. I wish I was going to RRLive but I can not attend. On May 5, 2008, at 12:41 AM, Jim Lambert wrote: > > On May 4, 2008, at 10:00 AM, use-revolution-request at lists.runrev.com > wrote: > >> I won't be going to Runrev live this month but I hope that someone >> who >> is experiencing the freezes is going and can demonstate it to the >> developers. > > > I won't be going either :( But am also experiencing these random 2.9 > freezes on a macBook Pro. > I've found that if you wait and wait and wait the machine often un- > freezes. 1 - 2 minutes. > > > Jim Lambert > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From toolbook at kestner.de Mon May 5 09:21:07 2008 From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 15:21:07 +0200 Subject: exported image as jpg not readable on Mac Message-ID: <003e01c8aeb2$e13de200$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> Hello, I am assigning PNGs from HD to an image in rev and export them as jpg. This does only work on Win. When running the standalone on Mac 10.5 following happens after exporting: The preview in finder shows the jpg ok, when opening with IPhoto, I can see also the jpg, but when doubleclicking the jpg I see only the Hexcode of the jpg and not the image. Is this a lack of Mac know how or a corrupted file export? But why is it only not readable when double clicking? Any ideas? Thanks Tiemo From 3mcgrath at comcast.net Mon May 5 09:22:42 2008 From: 3mcgrath at comcast.net (Thomas McGrath III) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 09:22:42 -0400 Subject: tool tip font In-Reply-To: <1e91b2b70805041704q4edeeb50x6405bbae18cdb1bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <1e91b2b70805041704q4edeeb50x6405bbae18cdb1bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Nicolas, Check out my ToolTip tricks and such online at RevOnline User: mcgrath3 Stack: ToolTip Tricks It shows some cool thing you can do and how to roll your own to do even more. HTH Tom McGrath On May 4, 2008, at 8:04 PM, Nicolas Cueto wrote: > Hello, > > Can a tool tip's font (name, size, color, style) be set? > > Thanks. > > -- > Nicolas Cueto > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas McGrath III 3mcgrath at comcast.net www.lazyriversoftware.com From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Mon May 5 09:28:00 2008 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 15:28:00 +0200 Subject: exported image as jpg not readable on Mac In-Reply-To: <003e01c8aeb2$e13de200$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> References: <003e01c8aeb2$e13de200$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> Message-ID: <09D85705-3CD2-4CBD-A150-5DE49ADC1CAA@economy-x-talk.com> Hi Tiemo, No, you made a mistake. You have to set the filetype correctly before writing data to a file. For example: set the filetype to "????JPEG" Btw, you shouldn't be seeing hex but binary. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Our servers may be off-line between 28 April and 1 May. If you have an urgent request, you can contact us at . Apologies for any inconveniences. On 5 mei 2008, at 15:21, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: > Hello, > > I am assigning PNGs from HD to an image in rev and export them as jpg. > > This does only work on Win. When running the standalone on Mac 10.5 > following happens after exporting: > > The preview in finder shows the jpg ok, when opening with IPhoto, I > can see > also the jpg, but when doubleclicking the jpg I see only the Hexcode > of the > jpg and not the image. > > > > Is this a lack of Mac know how or a corrupted file export? But why > is it > only not readable when double clicking? > > Any ideas? > > Thanks > > Tiemo From eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com Mon May 5 09:29:16 2008 From: eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com (Eric Chatonet) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 15:29:16 +0200 Subject: exported image as jpg not readable on Mac In-Reply-To: <003e01c8aeb2$e13de200$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> References: <003e01c8aeb2$e13de200$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> Message-ID: <5466EAB5-E70C-4BF4-965D-1948CF07868F@sosmartsoftware.com> Bonjour Tiemo, Le 5 mai 08 ? 15:21, Tiemo Hollmann TB a ?crit : > Hello, > > I am assigning PNGs from HD to an image in rev and export them as jpg. > > This does only work on Win. When running the standalone on Mac 10.5 > following happens after exporting: > > The preview in finder shows the jpg ok, when opening with IPhoto, I > can see > also the jpg, but when doubleclicking the jpg I see only the > Hexcode of the > jpg and not the image. > > > > Is this a lack of Mac know how or a corrupted file export? But why > is it > only not readable when double clicking? On Win, the extension is enough to recognize a file but on Mac OS you should, in addition, set the fileType: See the docs about it :-) Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------- From klaus at major-k.de Mon May 5 09:34:29 2008 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus Major) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 15:34:29 +0200 Subject: exported image as jpg not readable on Mac In-Reply-To: <003e01c8aeb2$e13de200$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> References: <003e01c8aeb2$e13de200$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> Message-ID: Hi Tiemo, > Hello, > > I am assigning PNGs from HD to an image in rev and export them as jpg. > > This does only work on Win. When running the standalone on Mac 10.5 > following happens after exporting: > > The preview in finder shows the jpg ok, when opening with IPhoto, I > can see > also the jpg, but when doubleclicking the jpg I see only the Hexcode > of the > jpg and not the image. > > Is this a lack of Mac know how Yes :-) > or a corrupted file export? But why is it > only not readable when double clicking? As in Windows, the Mac needs some file association to open the correct app when doubleclicking a document, which is not necessarily the file suffix! Image written/exported by Rev do not have this automatically. So (some of) your exported images do not have this association! You can force it by adding a simple line to your export routines: ... set the filetype to "" ## empty string ## Has no meaning on Windows, but the more on the Mac! ## This way ths Mac Finder is forced to use the file suffix as the file association. export image... ... > Any ideas? A LOT! :-) > Thanks > > Tiemo Regards Klaus Major klaus at major-k.de http://www.major-k.de From toolbook at kestner.de Mon May 5 09:42:18 2008 From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 15:42:18 +0200 Subject: AW: exported image as jpg not readable on Mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004301c8aeb5$d7059500$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> > > > > Is this a lack of Mac know how > > Is this a lack of Mac know how > Yes :-) > ohh, shame on me ;) Thanks Mark, Eric and Klaus for instant Mac coaching Since two days I am a proud Mac owner :)) after 20 years again, where I have played with HC on a 128E, Lot's to learn... Thanks Tiemo From toolbook at kestner.de Mon May 5 09:44:18 2008 From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 15:44:18 +0200 Subject: AW: exported image as jpg not readable on Mac In-Reply-To: <09D85705-3CD2-4CBD-A150-5DE49ADC1CAA@economy-x-talk.com> Message-ID: <004401c8aeb6$1e89b000$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> > Btw, you shouldn't be seeing hex but binary. :)) of course, you are right! From toolbook at kestner.de Mon May 5 10:02:47 2008 From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 16:02:47 +0200 Subject: AW: exported image as jpg not readable on Mac In-Reply-To: <09D85705-3CD2-4CBD-A150-5DE49ADC1CAA@economy-x-talk.com> Message-ID: <004501c8aeb8$b30f50c0$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> I didn't find a list with filetypes at apple developer. Am I right that the filetype for PNG is "????PNGf" and for GIF is "????GIFf"? Thank you Tiemo > > set the filetype to "????JPEG" > > Btw, you shouldn't be seeing hex but binary. > > Best regards, > > Mark Schonewille > From eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com Mon May 5 10:27:12 2008 From: eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com (Eric Chatonet) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 16:27:12 +0200 Subject: AW: exported image as jpg not readable on Mac In-Reply-To: <004501c8aeb8$b30f50c0$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> References: <004501c8aeb8$b30f50c0$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> Message-ID: Re Tiemo, Le 5 mai 08 ? 16:02, Tiemo Hollmann TB a ?crit : > I didn't find a list with filetypes at apple developer. > Am I right that the filetype for PNG is "????PNGf" and for GIF is > "????GIFf"? > Thank you > Tiemo You are perfectly right :-) Probably you might be interested in File Buddy, an utility for Mac OS > http://www.skytag.com/filebuddy/ It allows many things and, among others to know (or change) the type and creator of any file. Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------- From klaus at major-k.de Mon May 5 10:28:11 2008 From: klaus at major-k.de (Klaus Major) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 16:28:11 +0200 Subject: AW: exported image as jpg not readable on Mac In-Reply-To: <004501c8aeb8$b30f50c0$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> References: <004501c8aeb8$b30f50c0$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> Message-ID: <188CD07E-1F49-4614-8F84-90B23A8D12BD@major-k.de> Hi Tiemo, > I didn't find a list with filetypes at apple developer. > Am I right that the filetype for PNG is "????PNGf" and for GIF is > "????GIFf"? you can force the finder to recognize the correct filetype from the filesuffix by writing: ... set the filetype to "" ## before exporting images/writing files to disk... ... Just as I wrote in my last mail :-) > Thank you > Tiemo Best Klaus Major klaus at major-k.de http://www.major-k.de From toolbook at kestner.de Mon May 5 10:30:20 2008 From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 16:30:20 +0200 Subject: no good idea - app name with Umlaute? Message-ID: <004b01c8aebc$8cd17100$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> Hi, another Mac newbee question. My app name includes german Umlaute. So far so good without a problem. I am developing on Win and create standalones also for Mac. Now I have seen, that the printer dialog I call from rev with the option "save as PDF" takes the app name as the default save as and title name of the PDF document, BUT without having converted the code for the Umlaute, so the document name includes some special chars. Anything I can do to prevent this issue - besides not choosing an app name with Umlaute? Thanks for any hint! Tiemo From toolbook at kestner.de Mon May 5 10:31:27 2008 From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 16:31:27 +0200 Subject: AW: AW: exported image as jpg not readable on Mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <005001c8aebc$b4c0d480$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> Thanks Eric and Klaus, very useful help! Tiemo > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- > bounces at lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Eric Chatonet > Gesendet: Montag, 5. Mai 2008 16:27 > An: How to use Revolution > Betreff: Re: AW: exported image as jpg not readable on Mac > > Re Tiemo, > > Le 5 mai 08 ? 16:02, Tiemo Hollmann TB a ?crit : > > > I didn't find a list with filetypes at apple developer. > > Am I right that the filetype for PNG is "????PNGf" and for GIF is > > "????GIFf"? > > Thank you > > Tiemo > > You are perfectly right :-) > > Probably you might be interested in File Buddy, an utility for Mac OS > > http://www.skytag.com/filebuddy/ > It allows many things and, among others to know (or change) the type > and creator of any file. > > Best regards from Paris, > Eric Chatonet. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ > Email: eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From david at openpartnership.net Mon May 5 10:51:49 2008 From: david at openpartnership.net (David Bovill) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 15:51:49 +0100 Subject: Augmented file references using Spotlight Message-ID: Brief update on this - I've been updating y research on Spotlight - seems to work on the NAS well enough - and there are now a few projects working with tags and the like - mainly opting for using spotlight comments. Latest thought is therefore to work with these projects and choose some keywords for this. *Spotlight keywords* There are a few attribute keys (common to many file types), that would be good to be able to set: - kMDItemIdentifier - kMDItemKeywords *Latest...* But until such time as I get round to writing Spotlight plugins or Cocoa programming then using the comment field and waiting for future developments seems like a good idea. NB - this metadata in the comments field is only an additional feature to the database - in that it allows the software to read this info and quickly import or locate an entry in the database - full hash support will be there but that is slow for large files. I am going to try to make this spotlight metadata two way compatible with a folder / bundle based structure similar to the one EyeTV uses - this would seem to allow the structure to be portable to Windows either just using the folders or as zipped files. Of course I could use stacks and embed the videos and metadata.... :) From tereza at califex.com Mon May 5 10:57:27 2008 From: tereza at califex.com (Tereza Snyder) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 09:57:27 -0500 Subject: RunRev Accessibility Message-ID: <4915F86E-98FA-4931-8A7F-7BEC178BF598@califex.com> Hiya all, Does anyone know (spare me the testing!) whether apps made with RunRev using ordinary controls are accessible to screen readers out of the box? I have over the years implemented various accessibility modes in apps using Rev?single-switch access comes to mind?but I've yet to tackle screen-reader access in Rev. I know Hypercard wasn't accessible because I had to implement a blind-access mode for a major application back in the day when I worked at the Trace Center (http:// trace.wisc.edu), and I suspect Runtime Revolution isn't because?at least in the beginning?'system' controls were emulated. But is that still the case? on all platforms? A client has a C application that has bogged down in development. I know I can redo it in Rev and carry it forward expeditiously; however there's a federal grant involved and furthermore the client is committed to universal access. Anyone have a clue? tereza -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. From sundown at pacifier.com Mon May 5 11:11:31 2008 From: sundown at pacifier.com (-= JB =-) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 08:11:31 -0700 Subject: file related info In-Reply-To: <002401c8aa8b$a806c090$0b01a8c0@Sonyportable> References: <8CA75781CD2FA7D-1270-3334@Webmail-mg17.sim.aol.com> <8CA762227C2F221-ECC-4094@FWM-D20.sysops.aol.com> <8CA77C521C8F405-C24-2342@webmail-mf01.sysops.aol.com> <8CA787F25D3A1CD-148C-162B@MBLK-M37.sysops.aol.com> <002401c8aa8b$a806c090$0b01a8c0@Sonyportable> Message-ID: <4DC8ED0C-28BC-4760-8AAA-2ABD227D4BA9@pacifier.com> In Hypercard I had XCMD's that could check and modify file related info like size, creation date, modification date and creator. Are there any code examples available that allow me to check and modify file info related data. thanks, -=>JB<=- From david at openpartnership.net Mon May 5 11:12:55 2008 From: david at openpartnership.net (David Bovill) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 16:12:55 +0100 Subject: RunRev Accessibility In-Reply-To: <4915F86E-98FA-4931-8A7F-7BEC178BF598@califex.com> References: <4915F86E-98FA-4931-8A7F-7BEC178BF598@califex.com> Message-ID: Not much help maybe - but here is a link to the API's that could be implemented: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_reader#Accessibility_APIs And a free Apple based tool for testing? - http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXTesting/chapter_5_section_2.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40001078-CH210-DontLinkElementID_48 My guess is that this would all be much harder than making the app - "self-voicing": Self-voicing applications > > Some programs speak or make other sounds so that they can be used by blind > people or people who cannot see the screen. These programs are termed > self-voicing and can be a form > of assistive technologyif they are designed to remove the need to use a screen reader. > 2008/5/5 Tereza Snyder : > Hiya all, > > Does anyone know (spare me the testing!) whether apps made with RunRev > using ordinary controls are accessible to screen readers out of the box? I > have over the years implemented various accessibility modes in apps using > Rev?single-switch access comes to mind?but I've yet to tackle screen-reader > access in Rev. I know Hypercard wasn't accessible because I had to implement > a blind-access mode for a major application back in the day when I worked at > the Trace Center (http://trace.wisc.edu), and I suspect Runtime Revolution > isn't because?at least in the beginning?'system' controls were emulated. But > is that still the case? on all platforms? > > A client has a C application that has bogged down in development. I know I > can redo it in Rev and carry it forward expeditiously; however there's a > federal grant involved and furthermore the client is committed to universal > access. > > Anyone have a clue? > > tereza > > > -- > Tereza Snyder > Califex Software, Inc. > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Mon May 5 11:13:04 2008 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 17:13:04 +0200 Subject: RunRev Accessibility In-Reply-To: <4915F86E-98FA-4931-8A7F-7BEC178BF598@califex.com> References: <4915F86E-98FA-4931-8A7F-7BEC178BF598@califex.com> Message-ID: <490D5146-E1D7-468D-A82B-FC6B340C31FF@economy-x-talk.com> Hi Tereza, I have tried a few screen readers and none can work with Revolution. The screen readers I tried usually use the mouse cursor to determine which control or text should be described by means of audio. You can easily do this with Revolution's speech features. Additionally, it might be useful if your app could run from the command line. Perhaps you could turn on speech features automatically, after reading the system's universal access settings. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Our servers may be off-line between 28 April and 1 May. If you have an urgent request, you can contact us at . Apologies for any inconveniences. On 5 mei 2008, at 16:57, Tereza Snyder wrote: > Hiya all, > > Does anyone know (spare me the testing!) whether apps made with > RunRev using ordinary controls are accessible to screen readers out > of the box? I have over the years implemented various accessibility > modes in apps using Rev?single-switch access comes to mind?but I've > yet to tackle screen-reader access in Rev. I know Hypercard wasn't > accessible because I had to implement a blind-access mode for a > major application back in the day when I worked at the Trace Center (http://trace.wisc.edu > ), and I suspect Runtime Revolution isn't because?at least in the > beginning?'system' controls were emulated. But is that still the > case? on all platforms? > > A client has a C application that has bogged down in development. I > know I can redo it in Rev and carry it forward expeditiously; > however there's a federal grant involved and furthermore the client > is committed to universal access. > > Anyone have a clue? > > tereza > From david at openpartnership.net Mon May 5 11:19:47 2008 From: david at openpartnership.net (David Bovill) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 16:19:47 +0100 Subject: file related info In-Reply-To: <4DC8ED0C-28BC-4760-8AAA-2ABD227D4BA9@pacifier.com> References: <8CA75781CD2FA7D-1270-3334@Webmail-mg17.sim.aol.com> <8CA762227C2F221-ECC-4094@FWM-D20.sysops.aol.com> <8CA77C521C8F405-C24-2342@webmail-mf01.sysops.aol.com> <8CA787F25D3A1CD-148C-162B@MBLK-M37.sysops.aol.com> <002401c8aa8b$a806c090$0b01a8c0@Sonyportable> <4DC8ED0C-28BC-4760-8AAA-2ABD227D4BA9@pacifier.com> Message-ID: I have a few handlers - I am sure they could be improved. Here are a couple: function file_GetSize filePath > -- was "fileSize" > return item 2 of file_DetailedInfo(filePath) > end file_GetSize > > function file_LastModifed filePath > -- version original,27/12/02 > return item 5 of file_DetailedInfo(filePath) > end file_LastModifed > > function file_DetailedInfo filePath > -- was "detailedFileInfo" > > if filePath is empty then return empty > put filePath into someDirectory > set the itemdelimiter to "/" > put last item of filePath into shortFileName > delete last item of someDirectory > put the directory into oDirectory > set the directory to someDirectory > put the detailed files into detailedFileTable set the directory to oDirectory > put urlEncode(shortFileName) into encodedName > > filter detailedFileTable with (encodedName & ",*") > return detailedFileTable > end file_DetailedInfo > From ambassador at fourthworld.com Mon May 5 11:29:51 2008 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 08:29:51 -0700 Subject: file related info Message-ID: <481F27EF.5090509@fourthworld.com> -= JB =- wrote: > In Hypercard I had XCMD's that could check and modify > file related info like size, creation date, modification date > and creator. > > Are there any code examples available that allow me to > check and modify file info related data. This information can be obtained from the built-in expression: get the detailed files A very convenient handler for obtaining that info is included with a lot of other commonly-used stuff in stdLib.rev, a free open source library available in the Files section of the Rev Interoperability Project working group site: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/revInterop/ -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal _______________________________________________________ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com From geradamas at yahoo.com Mon May 5 11:30:30 2008 From: geradamas at yahoo.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 16:30:30 +0100 (BST) Subject: Show At . . . Message-ID: <585309.31407.qm@web37502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just uploaded to revOnline a fairly primitive stack "Show At" (find it under 'Richmond'). This is about as simple as one can get, but had never really occurred to me until I read about the problem making 'fancy' tooltips. This could be used as a way of displaying an image 'pretending' to be a tooltip in a multiplicyt of places. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From david at openpartnership.net Mon May 5 11:39:18 2008 From: david at openpartnership.net (David Bovill) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 16:39:18 +0100 Subject: Is a file an alias? Message-ID: Is there a way to find out if a file is an alias. The only way I can do it at the moment is with MacOS specific hacks? From geradamas at yahoo.com Mon May 5 11:49:24 2008 From: geradamas at yahoo.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 16:49:24 +0100 (BST) Subject: file related info Message-ID: <548178.68593.qm@web37505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> find "File Info" under Richmond on revOnline. I wonder what all those numbers mean ???????? sincerely, Richmond ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From sundown at pacifier.com Mon May 5 11:53:35 2008 From: sundown at pacifier.com (-= JB =-) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 08:53:35 -0700 Subject: file related info In-Reply-To: <481F27EF.5090509@fourthworld.com> References: <481F27EF.5090509@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: <92823703-9FAB-4679-9065-3156DA223A7A@pacifier.com> Thank you Richard and David for the info and code. -=>JB<=- On May 5, 2008, at 8:29 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > -= JB =- wrote: >> In Hypercard I had XCMD's that could check and modify >> file related info like size, creation date, modification date >> and creator. >> Are there any code examples available that allow me to >> check and modify file info related data. > > This information can be obtained from the built-in expression: > > get the detailed files > > A very convenient handler for obtaining that info is included with > a lot of other commonly-used stuff in stdLib.rev, a free open > source library available in the Files section of the Rev > Interoperability Project working group site: > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/revInterop/ > > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Managing Editor, revJournal > _______________________________________________________ > Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From david at openpartnership.net Mon May 5 12:05:36 2008 From: david at openpartnership.net (David Bovill) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 17:05:36 +0100 Subject: Is a file an alias? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I guess this works? Can someone test it on windows? function file_IsAlias someFile > put the aliasreference of someFile into testAlias > return someFile is not testAlias > end file_IsAlias > 2008/5/5 David Bovill : > Is there a way to find out if a file is an alias. The only way I can do it > at the moment is with MacOS specific hacks? > From lfredricks at proactive-intl.com Mon May 5 12:23:36 2008 From: lfredricks at proactive-intl.com (Lynn Fredricks) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 09:23:36 -0700 Subject: Attending RunRevLive; Birds of a Feather Meeting; Missing TraveLodge Message-ID: <004b01c8aecc$5f2c4f80$6501a8c0@GATEWAY> Hello all, We are just a few days away from Revolution Live. I would like to remind people that Ive set up an RSVP event planner here: http://miryesoftware.ning.com/events/event/show?id=1985969:Event:1285 What you can do is register, then simply say if you are going to be there or not. It would be useful I think if we all knew who was coming or not. Some great new projects came out of the last RevCons - why not start now? Ive also set up a special interest group on our NING site for RunRevLive: http://miryesoftware.ning.com/group/revolutionlive While Im planning a Birds of a Feather meeting (more below), this is an excellent group to talk about other types of get togethers, and if you all want to have other BOF meets. Our BOF is on working with Mirye - as a reseller or as a publisher, basic terms and conditions plus plans for 2008. The tentative plan for this is Friday May 10, at 7:15 PM. However Im arriving on the pre-conference day before Jo's party if you'd like to get together for something more formal than a drink. At the previous RevCons, the Travelodge hallway and pool area provided a grand location for drinking beer as well as ventilation for Jerry's cigars - I hope we can coopt a place within Alexis Park for the same purpose :-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Mirye Software Publishing http://www.mirye.com Mirye Community NING http://miryesoftware.ning.com From burrton at gmail.com Mon May 5 12:30:07 2008 From: burrton at gmail.com (Burrton Woodruff) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 12:30:07 -0400 Subject: 2.9 Freeze on OSX Message-ID: Thanks for the postings. My Macbookpro (MacBookPro3,1) running 10.5.2 does the random freeze on saving rev files. All I've been able to do is a hard reboot (hold the on button till the mac turns off). Then press the on button to restart. Burt Woodruff RippleSoft Software www.bgwoodruff.com > Message: 15 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 09:10:08 -0400 > From: Thomas McGrath III <3mcgrath at comcast.net> > Subject: Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX > To: How to use Revolution > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > I have left the frozen Mac sitting all night on two occasions and it > did not un-freeze for me. I wish I was going to RRLive but I can not > attend. From mb.userev at harbourhosting.co.uk Mon May 5 13:11:56 2008 From: mb.userev at harbourhosting.co.uk (Martin Baxter) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 18:11:56 +0100 Subject: Is a file an alias? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <481F3FDC.2020302@harbourhosting.co.uk> David Bovill wrote: > I guess this works? Can someone test it on windows? > > function file_IsAlias someFile >> put the aliasreference of someFile into testAlias >> return someFile is not testAlias >> end file_IsAlias >> > > 2008/5/5 David Bovill : > >> Is there a way to find out if a file is an alias. The only way I can do it >> at the moment is with MacOS specific hacks? >> If the file in question is *not* an alias (aka a shortcut on Windows) the aliasreference returns empty here on XP. So I would expect the above function to always report that someFile <> testAlias, Regardless of whether it was one or not. On Windows, shortcuts have the file extension ".lnk", perhaps all you need to do is check for that? A quick test shows this works on my system: answer file "whatever" put it into vv if vv is not empty then set itemdelimiter to "." if last item of vv = "lnk" then put "Is a shortcut" else put "is not a shortcut" end if end if Martin Baxter -- I am Not a Number, I am a free NaN From bvlahos at mac.com Mon May 5 13:23:33 2008 From: bvlahos at mac.com (Bill Vlahos) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 10:23:33 -0700 Subject: 2.9 Freeze on OSX In-Reply-To: References: <1257263B-6F1F-4926-BF6C-E55A3D212826@comcast.net> <6F5B72C104B0C2449B024F83100E4F830136F771@EVSSTAFF2.livad.liv.ac.uk> <170CE31F-6FD0-4D28-ADFF-B4287C4D27D0@comcast.net> <48061D19.2080100@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: <5F323FA6-0119-1000-C6D0-D7A32A1BBEC0-Webmail-10023@mac.com> I am experiencing the freezing and will be at RunRev Live. Bill Vlahos On Saturday, May 03, 2008, at 03:22PM, "M Koob" wrote: >I won't be going to Runrev live this month but I hope that someone who >is experiencing the freezes is going and can demonstate it to the >developers. From tereza at califex.com Mon May 5 13:30:28 2008 From: tereza at califex.com (Tereza Snyder) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 12:30:28 -0500 Subject: RunRev Accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <4915F86E-98FA-4931-8A7F-7BEC178BF598@califex.com> Message-ID: <21D27A6E-4FA0-45FF-AD1F-9929E2606B2D@califex.com> On May 5, 2008, at 10:12 AM, David Bovill wrote: > My guess is that this would all be much harder than making the app - > "self-voicing": and Mark Schonewille wrote: > I have tried a few screen readers and none can work with Revolution. > The screen readers I tried usually use the mouse cursor to determine > which control or text should be described by means of audio. You can > easily do this with Revolution's speech features It looks like self-voicing is the way to go. Not too different from single-switch access, code-wise. Thank you. You've spared me endless tests and incidentally let me sound like I know what I'm talking about in front of a client. tereza -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. From david at openpartnership.net Mon May 5 13:32:50 2008 From: david at openpartnership.net (David Bovill) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 18:32:50 +0100 Subject: Is a file an alias? In-Reply-To: <481F3FDC.2020302@harbourhosting.co.uk> References: <481F3FDC.2020302@harbourhosting.co.uk> Message-ID: How about: function file_IsAlias someFile put the aliasreference of someFile into testAlias return someFile is not testAlias or testAlias is empty end file_IsAlias Any problems with that - how does it work on Linux? 2008/5/5 Martin Baxter : > David Bovill wrote: > > I guess this works? Can someone test it on windows? > > > > function file_IsAlias someFile > >> put the aliasreference of someFile into testAlias > >> return someFile is not testAlias > >> end file_IsAlias > >> > > > > 2008/5/5 David Bovill : > > > >> Is there a way to find out if a file is an alias. The only way I can do > it > >> at the moment is with MacOS specific hacks? > >> > > If the file in question is *not* an alias (aka a shortcut on Windows) > the aliasreference returns empty here on XP. So I would expect the above > function to always report that someFile <> testAlias, Regardless of > whether it was one or not. > > On Windows, shortcuts have the file extension ".lnk", perhaps all you > need to do is check for that? > > A quick test shows this works on my system: > > answer file "whatever" > put it into vv > if vv is not empty then > set itemdelimiter to "." > if last item of vv = "lnk" then > put "Is a shortcut" > else > put "is not a shortcut" > end if > end if > > Martin Baxter > > -- > I am Not a Number, I am a free NaN > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From viktoras at ekoinf.net Mon May 5 14:01:24 2008 From: viktoras at ekoinf.net (viktoras didziulis) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 21:01:24 +0300 Subject: RunRev Accessibility In-Reply-To: <21D27A6E-4FA0-45FF-AD1F-9929E2606B2D@califex.com> References: <4915F86E-98FA-4931-8A7F-7BEC178BF598@califex.com> <21D27A6E-4FA0-45FF-AD1F-9929E2606B2D@califex.com> Message-ID: <481F4B74.6050100@ekoinf.net> you may already know this, but if not, you can find some general rules on diverse accessibility issues related to web applications here: http://www.w3.org/WAI/ It is mostly about websites, but it helped me to figure out in one project how should an 'accessible' application behave... also there is a relatively old but still useful document at: http://trace.wisc.edu/docs/software_guidelines/software.htm bets regards Viktoras Tereza Snyder wrote: > > On May 5, 2008, at 10:12 AM, David Bovill wrote: > >> My guess is that this would all be much harder than making the app - >> "self-voicing": > > and Mark Schonewille wrote: > >> I have tried a few screen readers and none can work with Revolution. >> The screen readers I tried usually use the mouse cursor to determine >> which control or text should be described by means of audio. You can >> easily do this with Revolution's speech features > > It looks like self-voicing is the way to go. Not too different from > single-switch access, code-wise. > > Thank you. You've spared me endless tests and incidentally let me > sound like I know what I'm talking about in front of a client. > > tereza > > From shari at gypsyware.com Mon May 5 14:22:36 2008 From: shari at gypsyware.com (Shari) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 14:22:36 -0400 Subject: Launching a web page SOLUTION In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh joy! I found the solution! Thank you Ken and Sarah for the ideas. And THANK YOU Scott Rossi for the final solution! After trying again and failing miserably, I went thru some old posts I had saved regarding this subject. Scott's post is from 2002, and it worked when all else failed. on mouseUp global tUrl # tUrl is the full path of the URL you are trying to launch put "http://www.gypsyware.com" into tUrl put \ "" & return & \ "" & return & \ "" & return & \ "Launcher" & return & \ "" & return & \ "" & return & \ "
" & return & \ "


" & return & \ "Loading URL. One moment please..." & return & \ "
" & return & \ "" & return & \ "" into tCode put pathToSomeFolderYouCanWriteTo into goHtml put "/gypsywareWebpage.html" after goHtml open file goHtml for write write tCode to file goHtml close file goHtml put word 1 of \ queryRegistry("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Classes\http\shell\open\command\") into tBrowserPath launch goHtml with tBrowserPath end mouseUp function q pWhat # put quotes around it return quote & pWhat & quote end q -- Humorous sports t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com From userev at canelasoftware.com Mon May 5 15:43:42 2008 From: userev at canelasoftware.com (Mark Talluto) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 12:43:42 -0700 Subject: 2.9 Freeze on OSX In-Reply-To: References: <20080504170006.10A19488E7D@mail.runrev.com> <7EDD4ECE-FC39-46D2-BD22-8623A682D802@netrin.com> Message-ID: <7DA55446-037C-40B1-847F-A9A0C8B58D58@canelasoftware.com> On May 5, 2008, at 6:10 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: > I have left the frozen Mac sitting all night on two occasions and it > did not un-freeze for me. I wish I was going to RRLive but I can not > attend. > > > On May 5, 2008, at 12:41 AM, Jim Lambert wrote: > >> >> On May 4, 2008, at 10:00 AM, use-revolution- >> request at lists.runrev.com wrote: >> >>> I won't be going to Runrev live this month but I hope that >>> someone who >>> is experiencing the freezes is going and can demonstate it to the >>> developers. >> >> >> I won't be going either :( But am also experiencing these random >> 2.9 freezes on a macBook Pro. >> I've found that if you wait and wait and wait the machine often un- >> freezes. 1 - 2 minutes. >> My co-worker Hans and I will be attending. He pledges to do his best to demonstrate the issue to all that will listen. :) Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com From 3mcgrath at comcast.net Mon May 5 15:50:02 2008 From: 3mcgrath at comcast.net (Thomas McGrath III) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 15:50:02 -0400 Subject: 2.9 Freeze on OSX In-Reply-To: <7DA55446-037C-40B1-847F-A9A0C8B58D58@canelasoftware.com> References: <20080504170006.10A19488E7D@mail.runrev.com> <7EDD4ECE-FC39-46D2-BD22-8623A682D802@netrin.com> <7DA55446-037C-40B1-847F-A9A0C8B58D58@canelasoftware.com> Message-ID: <312EC44E-DF9F-4281-954A-3DB93F66368D@comcast.net> I will have my fingers crossed hoping the team will see something or figure out what it might be... Tell Hans we are fully behind him.... Have fun ;-( Tom McGrath On May 5, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: > > My co-worker Hans and I will be attending. He pledges to do his > best to demonstrate the issue to all that will listen. :) > > > Mark Talluto > http://www.canelasoftware.com From mb.userev at harbourhosting.co.uk Mon May 5 16:00:17 2008 From: mb.userev at harbourhosting.co.uk (Martin Baxter) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 21:00:17 +0100 Subject: Is a file an alias? In-Reply-To: References: <481F3FDC.2020302@harbourhosting.co.uk> Message-ID: <481F6751.9030403@harbourhosting.co.uk> For Windows, I should think you could just test for testalias empty? If it had a path in it at all, that would indicate that somefile was an alias. Linux I can't check. Martin David Bovill wrote: > How about: > > function file_IsAlias someFile > put the aliasreference of someFile into testAlias > return someFile is not testAlias or testAlias is empty > end file_IsAlias > > Any problems with that - how does it work on Linux? > > > 2008/5/5 Martin Baxter : > >> David Bovill wrote: >>> I guess this works? Can someone test it on windows? >>> >>> function file_IsAlias someFile >>>> put the aliasreference of someFile into testAlias >>>> return someFile is not testAlias >>>> end file_IsAlias >>>> >>> 2008/5/5 David Bovill : >>> >>>> Is there a way to find out if a file is an alias. The only way I can do >> it >>>> at the moment is with MacOS specific hacks? >>>> >> If the file in question is *not* an alias (aka a shortcut on Windows) >> the aliasreference returns empty here on XP. So I would expect the above >> function to always report that someFile <> testAlias, Regardless of >> whether it was one or not. >> >> On Windows, shortcuts have the file extension ".lnk", perhaps all you >> need to do is check for that? >> >> A quick test shows this works on my system: >> >> answer file "whatever" >> put it into vv >> if vv is not empty then >> set itemdelimiter to "." >> if last item of vv = "lnk" then >> put "Is a shortcut" >> else >> put "is not a shortcut" >> end if >> end if >> >> Martin Baxter -- I am Not a Number, I am a free NaN From mpease at lawandpolitics.com Mon May 5 17:05:25 2008 From: mpease at lawandpolitics.com (Michael) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 14:05:25 -0700 Subject: exported image as jpg not readable on Mac In-Reply-To: <20080505151951.5CE77488F54@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: Hi: > set the filetype to "" > ## before exporting images/writing files to disk... I'm having this exact problem with exporting to a jpg. This doesn't work in a standalone run on Mac PPC OS 10.4.9: [...] set the fileType to "" -- to force finder to use extension export snapshot from card 2 to file ((cd field "fdJPG" of card 1) & \ (cd fld "fnJPG" of card 1)) as JPEG --> "card.jpg" Neither does: set the fileType to "????JPEG". The machine creating the standalone is Mac 10.4.11/Intel, Rev 2.9. When using the standalone on the Intel, it works even without the "set fileType" line, ie, Preview "owns" the file when double-clicked. When the standalone is run on PPC, for example it has an image preview in Get Info, and I can drag it on Safari to open, but the default app is TextEdit. All other ".jpg" files are owned by Preview on the PPC machine. Is there a special standalone setting for this? More ideas? Thanks, Michael From geradamas at yahoo.com Mon May 5 17:17:16 2008 From: geradamas at yahoo.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 22:17:16 +0100 (BST) Subject: tool tip font Message-ID: <541399.15793.qm@web37502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Producing coloured, sized and styled tooltips turns out to be very easy indeed: [My way of saying that there is no need to use add-ons] "Tool Tips Tricks" under 'Richmond' at revOnline uses a 'floating' field. Try it! sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From geradamas at yahoo.com Mon May 5 17:22:58 2008 From: geradamas at yahoo.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 22:22:58 +0100 (BST) Subject: tool tip font Message-ID: <231530.1516.qm@web37507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Um; sorry that I called my stack "Tool Tip Trick"; I did this before I read Thomas McGrath's message. Coincidental Euphony ??? McGrath's "ToolTip Tricks" is aimed at achieving something quite different to my "Tool Tip Trick". sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From 3mcgrath at comcast.net Mon May 5 17:46:51 2008 From: 3mcgrath at comcast.net (Thomas McGrath III) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 17:46:51 -0400 Subject: tool tip font In-Reply-To: <231530.1516.qm@web37507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <231530.1516.qm@web37507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7C9666A1-248C-4D1A-B1BC-D62ECD1ED6D9@comcast.net> RM, Feel free to use the stack and name.... I the ToolTip Tricks up awhile ago to show what might be possible with the built in tooltips, I think they should be combined to also show the roll your own versions as well. Ideas: Colored text animated/scrolling text 2 line tooltips picture backgrounds etc. window shape tooltips etc. Tom McGrath On May 5, 2008, at 5:22 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > Um; sorry that I called my stack "Tool Tip Trick"; I > did this before I read Thomas McGrath's message. > > Coincidental Euphony ??? > > McGrath's "ToolTip Tricks" is aimed at achieving > something quite different to my "Tool Tip Trick". > > sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. > > ____________________________________________________________ > > A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development > Life Cycle. > ____________________________________________________________ > > > __________________________________________________________ > Sent from Yahoo! Mail. > A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From wow at together.net Mon May 5 17:53:04 2008 From: wow at together.net (wow at together.net) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 17:53:04 -0400 Subject: MCISendString Message-ID: <380-2200851521534319@M2W023.mail2web.com> I have a few customers who tell me the following function does not seem to be working under Windows XP when they are using a built-in mic. They are not able to record sound. Does this code need to be modified to specify the device to record from or does it always record from the mic specified as the default device in the "Sound and Audio Devices Properties" screen? Thanks. Richard Miller -------------------------------------- local isrecording = false local recordfname on wavStartRecording tfile if isrecording is true then wavStopRecording put tfile into recordfname if there is a file recordfname then delete file recordfname get MCISendString("open new type waveaudio alias myrecordsound") get MCISendString("set myrecordsound bitspersample 8") get MCISendString("set myrecordsound channels 1") get MCISendString("set myrecordsound samplespersec 8000") get MCISendString("set myrecordsound bytespersec 8000") get MCISendString("set myrecordsound time format ms") get MCISendString("record myrecordsound") put true into isrecording end wavStartRecording function wavIsRecording return MCISendString("status myrecordsound mode") is "recording" end wavIsRecording on wavStopRecording put false into isrecording get MCISendString("stop myrecordsound") get MCISendString("save myrecordsound "&recordfname) get MCISendString("close myrecordsound") end wavStopRecording function wavRecordLoudness if isrecording is false then return 0 return MCISendString("status myrecordsound level") end wavRecordLoudness -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web From kee at kagi.com Mon May 5 18:32:47 2008 From: kee at kagi.com (Kee Nethery) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 15:32:47 -0700 Subject: Select All in fields In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: WAY COOL! Your example code is way more elegant than what I was thinking I'd have to do. Thank You! Kee On May 4, 2008, at 8:35 PM, Ken Ray wrote: >> Cut Copy Paste and Clear are in the Edit menu of my standalone Mac >> app. I'd like to add "Select All" and am wondering if there is some >> standard way of doing this. I can think of how to code it myself but >> it seems like such a standard thing that it makes me wonder if there >> is some checkbox I need to select to just make it happen. > > Not a "one click" thing, Kee... but it's a one-liner if all you care > about > is basic editable fields (i.e. not list fields): > > if the selectedField is not empty then \ > select the text of the selectedField > > HTH, > > Ken Ray > Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. > Email: kray at sonsothunder.com > Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ------------------------------------------------- I check email roughly 2 to 3 times per business day. Kagi main office: +1 (510) 550-1336 From craigam at unimelb.edu.au Mon May 5 20:56:01 2008 From: craigam at unimelb.edu.au (Craig McArthur) Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 10:56:01 +1000 Subject: Trouble exporting files in Windows using Enhanced QuickTime Message-ID: Hi All, I am working on an app that uses Trevor Devore?s Enhanced QuickTime external for media file editing and exporting, and am having trouble with it on Windows; Mac OSX is fine. The external works for any command that doesn?t create a file, which would indicate a file permissions problem, but I can't work out how to fix it. The app worked fine on Win until I had to replace my PC, which is a stock installation of Win XP SP2 with QuickTime 7.4.5, Rev 2.8.1. I have made a small test app which demonstrates the problem, this script is in a button: ------------------------ global pathToExportFolder on mouseUp local LExportSettings if pathToExportFolder is empty then answer folder "pick a folder" put it into pathToExportFolder end if put pathToExportFolder & "/export_1.mov" into pathToExportedFile if there is a file pathToExportedFile then delete file pathToExportedFile end if qtGetExportSettings the moviecontrollerid of player "Player", \ 0,"movie","LExportSettings" if "qterr" is in the result then beep put "error 1: " & the result exit mouseUp end if qtExport the moviecontrollerid of player "Player", \ 0, pathToExportedFile, "movie", "LExportSettings" if "qterr" is in the result then beep put "error 2: " & the result end if end mouseUp ------------------------ On Windows, "error 2: qterr,Unable to export movie" is returned no matter what I try... Any help would be much appreciated. Cheers Craig Craig McArthur School of Languages University of Melbourne, Australia From lists at mangomultimedia.com Mon May 5 21:06:46 2008 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 21:06:46 -0400 Subject: Trouble exporting files in Windows using Enhanced QuickTime In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0876A37A-7979-40A8-81B0-7CF5F8139B75@mangomultimedia.com> On May 5, 2008, at 8:56 PM, Craig McArthur wrote: > On Windows, "error 2: qterr,Unable to export movie" is returned no > matter > what I try... > > Any help would be much appreciated. Hey Craig, Try updating to the latest version of the external on my site which is 1.1.5. http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com The new version of QT seems to have caused problems with versions of the external compiled against the older SDK. The 1.1.5 version seems to fix the problem for those experiencing issues. Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com - www.screensteps.com From rgould8 at aol.com Tue May 6 00:35:03 2008 From: rgould8 at aol.com (rgould8 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 00:35:03 -0400 Subject: Way to auto-run an installer when mounting internet-enabled DMG? Message-ID: <8CA7D49AF9A106B-700-A88@webmail-dd03.sysops.aol.com> Sometimes when downloading DMGs of product demos from the web, it seems that they are able to make their DMG files "auto mount" and "auto run". ?I know how to internet-enable a DMG file, but can someone tell ho one goes about making an installer auto-start when the DMG is mounted? From userev at canelasoftware.com Tue May 6 02:37:39 2008 From: userev at canelasoftware.com (Mark Talluto) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 23:37:39 -0700 Subject: 2.9 Freeze on OSX In-Reply-To: <312EC44E-DF9F-4281-954A-3DB93F66368D@comcast.net> References: <20080504170006.10A19488E7D@mail.runrev.com> <7EDD4ECE-FC39-46D2-BD22-8623A682D802@netrin.com> <7DA55446-037C-40B1-847F-A9A0C8B58D58@canelasoftware.com> <312EC44E-DF9F-4281-954A-3DB93F66368D@comcast.net> Message-ID: On May 5, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: > I will have my fingers crossed hoping the team will see something or > figure out what it might be... > > Tell Hans we are fully behind him.... > > > Have fun ;-( > Thanks. I will let you know how it goes. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com From geradamas at yahoo.com Tue May 6 04:05:21 2008 From: geradamas at yahoo.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:05:21 +0100 (BST) Subject: tool tip font Message-ID: <849503.25040.qm@web37504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just uploaded new version: "Tool Tips Tricks" under 'Richmond' at revOnline uses a 'floating' field. Offering 2 types of tool tips: 1. A Transparent text overlaying the object. 2. An opaque text whose topLeft is set to the bottomRight of the object. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From revlist at azurevision.co.uk Tue May 6 04:14:07 2008 From: revlist at azurevision.co.uk (Ian Wood) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:14:07 +0100 Subject: Way to auto-run an installer when mounting internet-enabled DMG? In-Reply-To: <8CA7D49AF9A106B-700-A88@webmail-dd03.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA7D49AF9A106B-700-A88@webmail-dd03.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I'm pretty sure you may have mis-remembered that - OS X doesn't have any auto-run function that I know of. Ian On 6 May 2008, at 05:35, RGould8 at aol.com wrote: > Sometimes when downloading DMGs of product demos from the web, it > seems that they are able to make their DMG files "auto mount" and > "auto run". I know how to internet-enable a DMG file, but can > someone tell ho one goes about making an installer auto-start when > the DMG is mounted? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From geradamas at yahoo.com Tue May 6 04:38:05 2008 From: geradamas at yahoo.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:38:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: tool tip font Message-ID: <817000.44336.qm@web37504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> 3rd version just uploaded: "Tool Tips Tricks" under 'Richmond' at revOnline using formattedWidth and formattedHeight to resize the tool tip fields correctly. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From luis at anachreon.co.uk Tue May 6 04:46:04 2008 From: luis at anachreon.co.uk (Luis) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:46:04 +0100 Subject: Way to auto-run an installer when mounting internet-enabled DMG? In-Reply-To: References: <8CA7D49AF9A106B-700-A88@webmail-dd03.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <51005902-684E-4BE0-A4A5-BCA2EC1BCC86@anachreon.co.uk> It's probably set to open after downloading (the browser calls the installer). If it's compressed, the unarchiver usually has the option to run after unpacking it. Cheers, Luis. On 6 May 2008, at 09:14, Ian Wood wrote: > I'm pretty sure you may have mis-remembered that - OS X doesn't > have any auto-run function that I know of. > > Ian > > > On 6 May 2008, at 05:35, RGould8 at aol.com wrote: > >> Sometimes when downloading DMGs of product demos from the web, it >> seems that they are able to make their DMG files "auto mount" and >> "auto run". I know how to internet-enable a DMG file, but can >> someone tell ho one goes about making an installer auto-start when >> the DMG is mounted? >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From geradamas at yahoo.com Tue May 6 04:52:21 2008 From: geradamas at yahoo.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:52:21 +0100 (BST) Subject: tool tips: further thoughts Message-ID: <914009.79990.qm@web37503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Once the initial premise has been established: "real tool tips in RR are a bit boring, therefore it is much better to use fields to do the job" the only limitations that are imposed on this type of tool tip are the limitations imposed on text fields. Of course if rectangular tool tips are just not fancy enough for you you can use images or non-standard shaped substacks to do the job (personally I would avoid the latter as a substack can easily get "lost behind" a main stack). One of the wonderful things about Runtime Revolution is the flexible nature of object categories; they go beyond those awful Aristotelian categories with hard boundaries, while retaining some sort of prototypicality they do have fuzzy boundaries which, for instance: allows one to use an image as a button or a tool tip, a field as a button or a tool tip, a substack as almost anything. This is why, with a little bit of thought and effort it is quite possible to duplicate everything in RR using a different method. It is also really quite easy to develop one's own "stable" of objects that suit one's individual needs. 6 years ago (!!!!) I used an image of the first frame of an embedded quicktime movie as a button to start that quicktime movie; this allowed the end-user to believe that the movie was already loaded into the page as a visible object before it began playing. I suppose people with time to spare could have an awful lot of fun trying to use some particular object in as non-standard was as possible! sincerely, Richmond Mathewson ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From toolbook at kestner.de Tue May 6 04:55:40 2008 From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 10:55:40 +0200 Subject: Is it possible to hide the "windows side" of a hybrid CD on a Mac? Message-ID: <001101c8af56$f6aa3fe0$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> Hi there, when opening a hybrid CD on a Mac the user gets to see also the windows files (at least one folder for the windows app). What is the state of the art of producing such hybrid CDs? Is there any way to "hide" the windows side of the CD from the Mac User, or are the Mac users are just used to this file structure? On the other side on Win platform it is not such an issue, because of the autostart the Win user usually doesn't gets to see the content of the CD. Thanks for sharing your methods. Tiemo From geradamas at yahoo.com Tue May 6 05:22:25 2008 From: geradamas at yahoo.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 10:22:25 +0100 (BST) Subject: Is it possible to hide the "windows side" of a hybrid CD on a Mac? Message-ID: <410831.73445.qm@web37504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://saturn.med.nyu.edu/it/help/burner/hybrid.html sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! For Good. Give and get cool things for free, reduce waste and help our planet. Plus find hidden Yahoo! treasure http://green.yahoo.com/uk/earth-day/ From luis at anachreon.co.uk Tue May 6 06:11:58 2008 From: luis at anachreon.co.uk (Luis) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 11:11:58 +0100 Subject: Is it possible to hide the "windows side" of a hybrid CD on a Mac? In-Reply-To: <001101c8af56$f6aa3fe0$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> References: <001101c8af56$f6aa3fe0$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> Message-ID: Hiya, Are you creating the hybrid in Windows or Mac? I've done this with a combination of Toast 7 and Disk Utility on OS X. There should be plenty of Googleable info on the net covering what you're burning them with. Cheers, Luis. On 6 May 2008, at 09:55, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: > Hi there, > > when opening a hybrid CD on a Mac the user gets to see also the > windows > files (at least one folder for the windows app). > > What is the state of the art of producing such hybrid CDs? Is there > any way > to "hide" the windows side of the CD from the Mac User, or are the > Mac users > are just used to this file structure? > > On the other side on Win platform it is not such an issue, because > of the > autostart the Win user usually doesn't gets to see the content of > the CD. > > > > Thanks for sharing your methods. > > Tiemo > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From toolbook at kestner.de Tue May 6 09:01:13 2008 From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 15:01:13 +0200 Subject: AW: Is it possible to hide the "windows side" of a hybrid CD on a Mac? In-Reply-To: <410831.73445.qm@web37504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000501c8af79$43bbbda0$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> Hi Richmond and Luis, thank you, very helpful information! Tiemo > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- > bounces at lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Richmond Mathewson > Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. Mai 2008 11:22 > An: use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Betreff: Is it possible to hide the "windows side" of a hybrid CD on a > Mac? > > http://saturn.med.nyu.edu/it/help/burner/hybrid.html > From lists at mangomultimedia.com Tue May 6 09:26:50 2008 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:26:50 -0400 Subject: Way to auto-run an installer when mounting internet-enabled DMG? In-Reply-To: <8CA7D49AF9A106B-700-A88@webmail-dd03.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA7D49AF9A106B-700-A88@webmail-dd03.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <61B61CE3-CB39-420F-8ABE-28A01C4006FD@mangomultimedia.com> On May 6, 2008, at 12:35 AM, RGould8 at aol.com wrote: > Sometimes when downloading DMGs of product demos from the web, it > seems that they are able to make their DMG files "auto mount" and > "auto run". I know how to internet-enable a DMG file, but can > someone tell ho one goes about making an installer auto-start when > the DMG is mounted? If you use a program like FileStorm there is an option to "Automatically open volume after mounting image". This is what most software disk images do since Safari will automatically mount the disk image after downloading. If you set this flag then the Finder will open a window of the disk image. I'm not sure how to configure this without FileStorm (great little app worth picking up) but you could look at the "hdiutil" man pages to see if you can get any info there. Is this what you are after? Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com - www.screensteps.com From lists at mangomultimedia.com Tue May 6 09:29:53 2008 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:29:53 -0400 Subject: Is it possible to hide the "windows side" of a hybrid CD on a Mac? In-Reply-To: <001101c8af56$f6aa3fe0$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> References: <001101c8af56$f6aa3fe0$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> Message-ID: On May 6, 2008, at 4:55 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: > when opening a hybrid CD on a Mac the user gets to see also the > windows > files (at least one folder for the windows app). > > What is the state of the art of producing such hybrid CDs? Is there > any way > to "hide" the windows side of the CD from the Mac User, or are the > Mac users > are just used to this file structure? Just an additional note to what Richmond posted since those instructions were to an earlier version of Toast. Toast 8 (version I use) makes hiding files on a specific platform really easy. You just drop the files onto your Toast project and check off what platform the file should be visible on. No need to create disk images or do any extra work. Very slick. Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com - www.screensteps.com From kee at kagi.com Tue May 6 12:00:41 2008 From: kee at kagi.com (Kee Nethery) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:00:41 -0700 Subject: Way to auto-run an installer when mounting internet-enabled DMG? In-Reply-To: <8CA7D49AF9A106B-700-A88@webmail-dd03.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA7D49AF9A106B-700-A88@webmail-dd03.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <32E66753-DB27-4D17-9795-C600D21A111E@kagi.com> I agree with all the previous comments. Opening the dmg automatically is something you can desire, but it is also something I as a user can turn off in my browser (and being security paranoid, I do). Getting the application to auto-install from the dmg is a security violation that Mac OS X actively tries to prevent from happening. If your installation is a drag and drop into the Applications folder, you really don't need an auto-installer. Kee Nethery On May 5, 2008, at 9:35 PM, rgould8 at aol.com wrote: > Sometimes when downloading DMGs of product demos from the web, it > seems that they are able to make their DMG files "auto mount" and > "auto run". I know how to internet-enable a DMG file, but can > someone tell ho one goes about making an installer auto-start when > the DMG is mounted? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ------------------------------------------------- I check email roughly 2 to 3 times per business day. Kagi main office: +1 (510) 550-1336 From 3mcgrath at comcast.net Tue May 6 12:54:20 2008 From: 3mcgrath at comcast.net (Thomas McGrath III) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 12:54:20 -0400 Subject: Applescript, Clipboard, Libraries and Stand-alones Message-ID: I need to find out the answer to this one! I am using an Applescript from within Revolution that sets the clipboard to an image that the Applescript fetches. The script looks like the one below, where , and are replaced from the Revolution side. The name and playlist are the names of the track and playlist and the application is (I assume) the one that is calling the applescript??? But the command and paste are sent from one stack to another (the other is a library stack). The entry for the clipboard states: set the clipboard to v : Place data on an application?s clipboard. Use inside a ?tell? block and activate the application first try tell application "iTunes" set myTrackKind to the kind of artwork 1 of track "" of playlist "" if myTrackKind is 0 then set myTrack to the (data of artwork 1 of track "" of playlist "") as picture end if end tell tell application "" activate set the clipboard to myTrack as picture end tell end try The problem is that when a stack or substack is set as the "" the script does not work. When Revoution is set as the "" it still does not work. The AS entry states that the applications clipboard needs to be active first but I have tried the Library, the Stack and Revolution (From within the IDE) and no luck...... Any ideas here??? Tom McGrath From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Tue May 6 13:42:23 2008 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 19:42:23 +0200 Subject: Applescript, Clipboard, Libraries and Stand-alones In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <69AC8D38-5A83-41F9-A55A-0759D23DF85C@economy-x-talk.com> Tom, Did you see my last reply regarding your problem concerning PNGs? I don't know where you got the instruction to activate an application before setting the clipboard, but this seems like nonsense to me. The clipboard usually works at system level. It shouldn't be necessary to do this inside a tell block. Can't you just have AppleScript return the data to Revolution and use a Rev script to read the picture from the result, like you did earlier? Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 6-mei-2008, om 18:54 heeft Thomas McGrath III het volgende geschreven: > I need to find out the answer to this one! > > I am using an Applescript from within Revolution that sets the > clipboard to an image that the Applescript fetches. > The script looks like the one below, where , and > are replaced from the Revolution side. The name and > playlist are the names of the track and playlist and the > application is (I assume) the one that is calling the > applescript??? But the command and paste are sent from one stack to > another (the other is a library stack). > > The entry for the clipboard states: set the clipboard to > v : Place data on an application?s clipboard. Use inside a ?tell? > block and activate the application first > > > try > tell application "iTunes" > set myTrackKind to the kind of artwork 1 of track "" of > playlist "" > if myTrackKind is 0 then > set myTrack to the (data of artwork 1 of track "" of > playlist "") as picture > end if > end tell > tell application "" > activate > set the clipboard to myTrack as picture > end tell > end try > > The problem is that when a stack or substack is set as the > "" the script does not work. When Revoution is set as > the "" it still does not work. The AS entry states > that the applications clipboard needs to be active first but I have > tried the Library, the Stack and Revolution (From within the IDE) > and no luck...... > > > Any ideas here??? > > Tom McGrath > From benr_mc at cogapp.com Tue May 6 14:18:49 2008 From: benr_mc at cogapp.com (Ben Rubinstein) Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 19:18:49 +0100 Subject: Is a file an alias? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4820A109.5000600@cogapp.com> On 5/5/08 17:05, David Bovill wrote: > I guess this works? Can someone test it on windows? > > function file_IsAlias someFile >> put the aliasreference of someFile into testAlias >> return someFile is not testAlias >> end file_IsAlias >> > > 2008/5/5 David Bovill : > >> Is there a way to find out if a file is an alias. The only way I can do it >> at the moment is with MacOS specific hacks? >> Be wary: on the Mac there are three possible kinds of 'alias': a symbolic link, a hard link, and a "Mac alias". AFAICT, "the aliasReference" only understands the third kind. Possibly that should be the subject of an enhancement request in BZ? - Ben From 3mcgrath at comcast.net Tue May 6 15:06:56 2008 From: 3mcgrath at comcast.net (Thomas McGrath III) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 15:06:56 -0400 Subject: Applescript, Clipboard, Libraries and Stand-alones In-Reply-To: <69AC8D38-5A83-41F9-A55A-0759D23DF85C@economy-x-talk.com> References: <69AC8D38-5A83-41F9-A55A-0759D23DF85C@economy-x-talk.com> Message-ID: Mark, I was having all kinds of problems with the write to and read from file method, mostly path issues. Don't forget I have to have this work in AS, VB and in RR in order to be of use to me on both Mac and Windows platforms. And, I was not getting RR to read the file correctly from the hex data returned straight from the AS script. Nothing else in my library writes to the users disk and I wanted to keep this consistent if I could. So I looked into the clipboard info and found that AS and VB will convert the raw data into binary on the clipboard. So getting RR to just read the binary clipboard instead of the hex data seemed like the logical step. However paste was not working in RR correctly for me and after a while I thought maybe I was not copying correctly from AS. So, I looked up in the scripting additions library for clipboard where it does state: set the clipboard to v : Place data on an application?s clipboard. Use inside a ?tell? block and activate the application first set the clipboard to any : the data to place on the clipboard the clipboard v : Return the contents of an application?s clipboard. Use in a ?tell? block after activating the application the clipboard [as type class] : the type of data desired ? any : the data clipboard info v : Return information about the clipboard clipboard info [for type class] : restricts to information about only this data type ? list of list : a list of {data type, size} for each type of data on the clipboard ANYWAY, after playing around all day and getting frustrated I decided to go back to my script that just pasted on the clipboard (Finder?) and do it different this time from within RR instead. It now works consistently without a paste in RR, but rather a clipboardData["image"] instead: Applescript: (This successfully puts the artwork converted to binary on the clipboard every time, and are replaced.) try tell application "iTunes" set myHasArtwork to the artworks of track "" of playlist "" if myHasArtwork is not "" then set myTrack to the (data of artwork 1 of track "" of playlist "") as picture set the clipboard to myTrack as picture return myTrack end if end tell end try Then in Revolution: -- set up a correctly sized invisible image to store the data in and then use it's ID for my buttons and or other images put the clipboardData["image"] into tTemp put tTemp into img "Template" put the id of img "Template" into theResult put "Image ID:" && theResult into field "Sample" -- Now put the new image into a new sized and locked image or set up for the icon of a btn etc. put image id theResult into image "Album Artwork" Well, after a long day, this is now working consistently and if I need to save the file I can now do it from within RR with a simple path instead of having to set up paths in AS and VB and RR. Thank you for you help and suggestions, Tom McGrath On May 6, 2008, at 1:42 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: > Tom, > > Did you see my last reply regarding your problem concerning PNGs? > > I don't know where you got the instruction to activate an > application before setting the clipboard, but this seems like > nonsense to me. The clipboard usually works at system level. It > shouldn't be necessary to do this inside a tell block. > > Can't you just have AppleScript return the data to Revolution and > use a Rev script to read the picture from the result, like you did > earlier? > > Best, > > Mark From david at openpartnership.net Tue May 6 15:48:53 2008 From: david at openpartnership.net (David Bovill) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 20:48:53 +0100 Subject: Is a file an alias? In-Reply-To: <4820A109.5000600@cogapp.com> References: <4820A109.5000600@cogapp.com> Message-ID: Oh! - I thought the Mac Alias was a symbolic link. What's the difference? From JimAultWins at yahoo.com Tue May 6 15:56:51 2008 From: JimAultWins at yahoo.com (Jim Ault) Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 12:56:51 -0700 Subject: Applescript, Clipboard, Libraries and Stand-alones In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Have you looked at Ken's listings of solutions and tips? http://sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/revolution.htm in the middle of the page, file001, file002, etc Jim Ault Las Vegas On 5/6/08 12:06 PM, "Thomas McGrath III" <3mcgrath at comcast.net> wrote: > Mark, > > I was having all kinds of problems with the write to and read from > file method, mostly path issues. Don't forget I have to have this work > in AS, VB and in RR in order to be of use to me on both Mac and > Windows platforms. > > And, I was not getting RR to read the file correctly from the hex > data returned straight from the AS script. > > Nothing else in my library writes to the users disk and I wanted to > keep this consistent if I could. > > So I looked into the clipboard info and found that AS and VB will > convert the raw data into binary on the clipboard. So getting RR to > just read the binary clipboard instead of the hex data seemed like the > logical step. However paste was not working in RR correctly for me and > after a while I thought maybe I was not copying correctly from AS. So, > I looked up in the scripting additions library for clipboard where it > does state: > > set the clipboard to v : Place data on an application?s clipboard. > Use inside a ?tell? block and activate the application first > set the clipboard to any : the data to place on the clipboard > > the clipboard v : Return the contents of an application?s clipboard. > Use in a ?tell? block after activating the application > the clipboard > [as type class] : the type of data desired > ? any : the data > > clipboard info v : Return information about the clipboard > clipboard info > [for type class] : restricts to information about only this data type > ? list of list : a list of {data type, size} for each type of data on > the clipboard > > ANYWAY, after playing around all day and getting frustrated I decided > to go back to my script that just pasted on the clipboard (Finder?) > and do it different this time from within RR instead. It now works > consistently without a paste in RR, but rather a > clipboardData["image"] instead: > > Applescript: (This successfully puts the artwork converted to binary > on the clipboard every time, and are replaced.) > try > tell application "iTunes" > set myHasArtwork to the artworks of track "" of playlist > "" > if myHasArtwork is not "" then > set myTrack to the (data of artwork 1 of track "" of playlist > "") as picture > set the clipboard to myTrack as picture > return myTrack > end if > end tell > end try > > Then in Revolution: > -- set up a correctly sized invisible image to store the data in and > then use it's ID for my buttons and or other images > > put the clipboardData["image"] into tTemp > put tTemp into img "Template" > put the id of img "Template" into theResult > put "Image ID:" && theResult into field "Sample" > -- Now put the new image into a new sized and locked image or set > up for the icon of a btn etc. > put image id theResult into image "Album Artwork" > > Well, after a long day, this is now working consistently and if I need > to save the file I can now do it from within RR with a simple path > instead of having to set up paths in AS and VB and RR. > > Thank you for you help and suggestions, > > Tom McGrath > > On May 6, 2008, at 1:42 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: > >> Tom, >> >> Did you see my last reply regarding your problem concerning PNGs? >> >> I don't know where you got the instruction to activate an >> application before setting the clipboard, but this seems like >> nonsense to me. The clipboard usually works at system level. It >> shouldn't be necessary to do this inside a tell block. >> >> Can't you just have AppleScript return the data to Revolution and >> use a Rev script to read the picture from the result, like you did >> earlier? >> >> Best, >> >> Mark > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From RevList at CreaTECHSol.com Tue May 6 18:50:48 2008 From: RevList at CreaTECHSol.com (RevList) Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 15:50:48 -0700 Subject: Stopping a Process Message-ID: I have a routine that is looping through and opening a series of text files using a Repeat Loop. I know I can do a Command . to stop this, but what if I wanted to let the end user stop the process? How would I code this? 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One way is if the optionkey is down then exit repeat or the synonym altKey Jim Ault Las Vegas From mark at maseurope.net Tue May 6 19:37:54 2008 From: mark at maseurope.net (Mark Smith) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 00:37:54 +0100 Subject: Stopping a Process In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2F9BDCE2-665C-46B2-B56C-D80653A6A2F2@maseurope.net> On 6 May 2008, at 23:50, RevList wrote: > I have a routine that is looping through and opening a series of text > files using a Repeat Loop. > > I know I can do a Command . to stop this, but what if I wanted to > let the > end user stop the process? How would I code this? > > Stewart > Another way, if you want ot have a 'stop' button, for instance, is to have a script local variable that you set from a button : in the stack or card script that runs the loop: local sStopLoop = false on someFunction repeat until jobDone if sStopLoop then exit repeat doStuff... wait 0 millisecs with messages -- need this to allow rev to respond to button clicks end repeat cleanUpStuff... end someFunction on stopLoop put true into sStopLoop end stopLoop Then in the stop button script: on mouseUp stopLoop end mouseUp Best, Mark From pub at humantech.biz Tue May 6 19:37:53 2008 From: pub at humantech.biz (Harry Parshall) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 23:37:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: how to hide the Revolution Player.exe white background? Message-ID: When running a stack with Windows Revolution Player.exe the entire desktop is covered with a white background with a Revolution logo in the lower Left corner. How can I hide this background? This background seems to be a property of the player and not my stacks. I've created new stacks with only a quit button and the desktop is still obliterated while the stack is running. From david at openpartnership.net Tue May 6 19:49:59 2008 From: david at openpartnership.net (David Bovill) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 00:49:59 +0100 Subject: OT: Permissions, NAS, Share and symlinks Message-ID: More experiments with my NAS... My question is regarding SymLinks - or hard links - if I want one directory to be made available to two different folders with different permissions on each of the folders - can I use some form of alias - and if so what sort of permissions would I need on the shared folder? I'm trying to avoid duplicating data across two different shares. From revlist at azurevision.co.uk Tue May 6 20:05:20 2008 From: revlist at azurevision.co.uk (Ian Wood) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 01:05:20 +0100 Subject: how to hide the Revolution Player.exe white background? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6073A21F-4239-43D5-9673-E2B1D136C81B@azurevision.co.uk> From what i remember it's one of the built-in limitations of the free player. Ian On 7 May 2008, at 00:37, Harry Parshall wrote: > When running a stack with Windows Revolution Player.exe the entire > desktop is > covered with a white background with a Revolution logo in the lower > Left corner. > How can I hide this background? This background seems to be a > property of the > player and not my stacks. I've created new stacks with only a quit > button and > the desktop is still obliterated while the stack is running. > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From hershf at rgllc.us Tue May 6 21:15:42 2008 From: hershf at rgllc.us (Hershel Fisch) Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 20:15:42 -0500 Subject: Continues flds Message-ID: Hi, there was a discussion regarding a single fld continuing on multiple cards, can somebody recall exactly the topic? Thanks, Hershel From kee at kagi.com Tue May 6 20:32:00 2008 From: kee at kagi.com (Kee Nethery) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 17:32:00 -0700 Subject: Stopping a Process In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <99B7DEEF-D4A0-4AF3-B745-CBD6472A0983@kagi.com> On May 6, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Jim Ault wrote: > > On 5/6/08 3:50 PM, "RevList" wrote: > >> I have a routine that is looping through and opening a series of text >> files using a Repeat Loop. >> >> I know I can do a Command . to stop this, but what if I wanted to >> let the >> end user stop the process? How would I code this? > > One way is > if the optionkey is down then exit repeat > exactly what I do. If I have a long running process that I might want to halt, I sprinkle if optionkey is down then exit repeat end if inside all my loops and if it goes off into the weeds and looks like it will complete sometime next year, I press the option key and eventually it halts. :-) I've been know to use my stapler to hold down the optionkey for me on really long running processes Kee > or the synonym altKey > > Jim Ault > Las Vegas > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ------------------------------------------------- I check email roughly 2 to 3 times per business day. Kagi main office: +1 (510) 550-1336 From craigam at unimelb.edu.au Tue May 6 20:42:45 2008 From: craigam at unimelb.edu.au (Craig McArthur) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 10:42:45 +1000 Subject: Trouble exporting files in Windows using Enhanced QuickTime In-Reply-To: <20080506170005.B3948489017@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: On 7/5/08 3:00 AM, Trevor Devore wrote: >> On Windows, "error 2: qterr,Unable to export movie" is returned no >> matter >> what I try... >> >> Any help would be much appreciated. > > Hey Craig, > > Try updating to the latest version of the external on my site which is > 1.1.5. > > http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com > > The new version of QT seems to have caused problems with versions of > the external compiled against the older SDK. The 1.1.5 version seems > to fix the problem for those experiencing issues. Thanks Trevor, that?s fixed it. Cheers Craig Craig McArthur Horwood Language Centre School of Languages University of Melbourne 8344 5117 From lan.kc.macmail at gmail.com Wed May 7 00:11:59 2008 From: lan.kc.macmail at gmail.com (Kay C Lan) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 12:11:59 +0800 Subject: Is a file an alias? In-Reply-To: References: <4820A109.5000600@cogapp.com> Message-ID: On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 3:48 AM, David Bovill wrote: > Oh! - I thought the Mac Alias was a symbolic link. What's the difference? > Well from wikipedia it basically says that a symlink is just a text file which contains the relative or absolute path to another file/folder/app. If that file/folder/app is moved then the link is broken. A Mac alias contains various data, and along with some OS algorithms, if the file/folder/app is moved the link is not necessarily broken - although we all know that it is still possible to do so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alias_(Mac_OS) From lan.kc.macmail at gmail.com Wed May 7 00:22:21 2008 From: lan.kc.macmail at gmail.com (Kay C Lan) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 12:22:21 +0800 Subject: Continues flds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Hershel Fisch wrote: > Hi, there was a discussion regarding a single fld continuing on multiple > cards, can somebody recall exactly the topic? What's your problem. Maybe we can figure out a solution faster than we can figure out all the possible permutations of who's posted problems about fields,cards and what their posted subject was :-) From toolbook at kestner.de Wed May 7 05:53:57 2008 From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 11:53:57 +0200 Subject: AW: Is it possible to hide the "windows side" of a hybrid CD on aMac? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001a01c8b028$456f1f70$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> Toast seems to be first class Thanks for the info Tiemo > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- > bounces at lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Trevor DeVore > Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. Mai 2008 15:30 > An: How to use Revolution > Betreff: Re: Is it possible to hide the "windows side" of a hybrid CD on > aMac? > > On May 6, 2008, at 4:55 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: > > > when opening a hybrid CD on a Mac the user gets to see also the > > windows > > files (at least one folder for the windows app). > > > > What is the state of the art of producing such hybrid CDs? Is there > > any way > > to "hide" the windows side of the CD from the Mac User, or are the > > Mac users > > are just used to this file structure? > > Just an additional note to what Richmond posted since those > instructions were to an earlier version of Toast. Toast 8 (version I > use) makes hiding files on a specific platform really easy. You just > drop the files onto your Toast project and check off what platform the > file should be visible on. No need to create disk images or do any > extra work. Very slick. > > Regards, > > -- > Trevor DeVore > Blue Mango Learning Systems > www.bluemangolearning.com - www.screensteps.com > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From david at openpartnership.net Wed May 7 06:47:59 2008 From: david at openpartnership.net (David Bovill) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 11:47:59 +0100 Subject: Basic sorting problem Message-ID: If I am not doing something wrong I think this is a bug - if so it would be good to confirm on other platforms as it is pretty basic. I am trying to sort lines by the number of words in each line. I can do it with the nuber of chars but not the number of words or tokens. Here are the test scripts: on test_CharSort > put object_GetNames() into objectNames > > -- this is sorting fine! > sort objectNames by the number of chars of each > > repeat for each line someLine in objectNames > put the number of chars of someLine & tab & someLine & CR after > someResult > end repeat > put someResult > end test_CharSort > > on test_WordSort > put object_GetNames() into objectNames > > -- why is this not sorting? > sort objectNames by the number of words of each > > repeat for each line someLine in objectNames > put the number of words of someLine & tab & someLine & CR after > someResult > end repeat > put someResult > end test_WordSort > > on test_TokenSort > put object_GetNames() into objectNames > > -- why is this not sorting? > sort objectNames by the number of tokens of each > > repeat for each line someLine in objectNames > put the number of tokens of someLine & tab & someLine & CR after > someResult > end repeat > put someResult > end test_TokenSort > > function object_GetNames > repeat with controlNum = 1 to the number of controls > put the long name of control controlNum into longName > put longName & CR after objectNames > end repeat > delete char -1 of objectNames > return objectNames > end object_GetNames A fix now is to sort using a function - now if only I could remember the syntax for that.... From 00bioarchimed at free.fr Wed May 7 07:02:09 2008 From: 00bioarchimed at free.fr (Thierry) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 13:02:09 +0200 Subject: Basic sorting problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Le 7 mai 08 ? 12:47, David Bovill a ?crit : > A fix now is to sort using a function - now if only I could > remember the > syntax for that.... > ______________ Well, you can look at page 184-185 in a very special document called "Revolution/User's guide 2.9" -> sort cards by myfunction() HTH, Thierry From eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com Wed May 7 07:35:04 2008 From: eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com (Eric Chatonet) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 13:35:04 +0200 Subject: Basic sorting problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bonjour David, First, here, it works for me (Mac OS - last Rev 2.9): sort objectNames by the number of words of each Second if you want to use a function, it should be something like: on test_WordSort put object_GetNames() into objectNames -- sort objectNames descending by NumOfWords() -- ------ repeat for each line someLine in objectNames put the number of words of someLine & tab & someLine & CR after someResult end repeat put someResult end test_WordSort ------------------------------- function NumOfWords return the number of words of each line end NumOfWords But it does the same and does not seem useful :-) Le 7 mai 08 ? 12:47, David Bovill a ?crit : > If I am not doing something wrong I think this is a bug - if so it > would be > good to confirm on other platforms as it is pretty basic. I am > trying to > sort lines by the number of words in each line. I can do it with > the nuber > of chars but not the number of words or tokens. Here are the test > scripts: > > on test_CharSort >> put object_GetNames() into objectNames >> >> -- this is sorting fine! >> sort objectNames by the number of chars of each >> >> repeat for each line someLine in objectNames >> put the number of chars of someLine & tab & someLine & CR >> after >> someResult >> end repeat >> put someResult >> end test_CharSort >> >> on test_WordSort >> put object_GetNames() into objectNames >> >> -- why is this not sorting? >> sort objectNames by the number of words of each >> >> repeat for each line someLine in objectNames >> put the number of words of someLine & tab & someLine & CR >> after >> someResult >> end repeat >> put someResult >> end test_WordSort >> >> on test_TokenSort >> put object_GetNames() into objectNames >> >> -- why is this not sorting? >> sort objectNames by the number of tokens of each >> >> repeat for each line someLine in objectNames >> put the number of tokens of someLine & tab & someLine & CR >> after >> someResult >> end repeat >> put someResult >> end test_TokenSort >> >> function object_GetNames >> repeat with controlNum = 1 to the number of controls >> put the long name of control controlNum into longName >> put longName & CR after objectNames >> end repeat >> delete char -1 of objectNames >> return objectNames >> end object_GetNames > > > A fix now is to sort using a function - now if only I could > remember the > syntax for that.... > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From geradamas at yahoo.com Wed May 7 08:09:52 2008 From: geradamas at yahoo.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 13:09:52 +0100 (BST) Subject: Basic sorting problem Message-ID: <562097.55778.qm@web37502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Seems rather complicated! I did this: on mouseUp put 1 into KK repeat until line KK of fld "fIN" is empty put the number of words of line KK of fld "fIN" && line KK of fld "fIN" into line KK of fld "fOUT" put KK + 1 into KK end repeat sort lines of fld "fOUT" put 1 into CC repeat until line CC of fld "fOUT" is empty put 1 into XX repeat until char XX of line CC of fld "fOUT" is " " put the number of chars of line CC of fld "fOUT" into NC put char 2 to NC of line CC of fld "fOUT" into line CC of fld "fOUT" end repeat put CC + 1 into CC end repeat end mouseUp it took me 15 minutes. look at "Sentence Sorter" in RevOnline (under 'Richmond') sincerely, Richmond Mathewson ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From ludovic.thebault at laposte.net Wed May 7 08:35:44 2008 From: ludovic.thebault at laposte.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ludovic_Th=E9bault?=) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 14:35:44 +0200 Subject: AW: Is it possible to hide the "windows side" of a hybrid CD on aMac? In-Reply-To: <001a01c8b028$456f1f70$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> References: <001a01c8b028$456f1f70$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> Message-ID: Le 7 mai 08 ? 11:53, Tiemo Hollmann TB a ?crit : > Toast seems to be first class > Thanks for the info > Tiemo With LiquidCd (free) it's also possible. For each file or folder in the CD, go to btn "info" and choose the platform From 3mcgrath at comcast.net Wed May 7 08:42:39 2008 From: 3mcgrath at comcast.net (Thomas McGrath III) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 08:42:39 -0400 Subject: Continues flds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5682E7CE-B4EB-490D-A091-00B299201093@comcast.net> Do you mean a field as a background object? on all cards? On May 6, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote: > Hi, there was a discussion regarding a single fld continuing on > multiple > cards, can somebody recall exactly the topic? > Thanks, Hershel > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From toolbook at kestner.de Wed May 7 08:46:09 2008 From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 14:46:09 +0200 Subject: AW: AW: Is it possible to hide the "windows side" of a hybrid CD onaMac? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002a01c8b040$53e82f20$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> Merci Ludovic, I had a look at Liquid but didn't see the option. Tiemo > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- > bounces at lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Ludovic Th?bault > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. Mai 2008 14:36 > An: How to use Revolution > Betreff: Re: AW: Is it possible to hide the "windows side" of a hybrid CD > onaMac? > > > Le 7 mai 08 ? 11:53, Tiemo Hollmann TB a ?crit : > > > Toast seems to be first class > > Thanks for the info > > Tiemo > > With LiquidCd (free) it's also possible. > For each file or folder in the CD, go to btn "info" and choose the > platform > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From david at openpartnership.net Wed May 7 08:59:16 2008 From: david at openpartnership.net (David Bovill) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 13:59:16 +0100 Subject: Basic sorting problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Still does not work here (the first line in the index is not sorted / put at the end) - driving me nuts so Im putting together a test stack here.... From 3mcgrath at comcast.net Wed May 7 09:06:30 2008 From: 3mcgrath at comcast.net (Thomas McGrath III) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 09:06:30 -0400 Subject: Continues flds In-Reply-To: <5682E7CE-B4EB-490D-A091-00B299201093@comcast.net> References: <5682E7CE-B4EB-490D-A091-00B299201093@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7EF56F66-88CD-4722-BF45-B5054346A38B@comcast.net> OR maybe you mean a field that when it gets to the bottom of a card continues on at the next card? Tom On May 7, 2008, at 8:42 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: > Do you mean a field as a background object? on all cards? > > > On May 6, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote: > >> Hi, there was a discussion regarding a single fld continuing on >> multiple >> cards, can somebody recall exactly the topic? >> Thanks, Hershel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From andre at andregarzia.com Wed May 7 09:08:50 2008 From: andre at andregarzia.com (Andre Garzia) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 10:08:50 -0300 Subject: Semi-OT: Almost in Vegas... Message-ID: <7c87a2a10805070608i530fc453m4d43eae977a45a0b@mail.gmail.com> Hello Friends, I am now at Houston Airport waiting for my flight to Vegas, contrary to popular belief my luggage actually arrived with me this time. For those going to RunRevLive and wanting to meet early, I think I'll arrive at the hotel about 13:30 or something like that. Looking forward to see everyone! Cheers andre -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. From coiin at rcn.com Wed May 7 09:21:12 2008 From: coiin at rcn.com (Colin Holgate) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 09:21:12 -0400 Subject: Continues flds In-Reply-To: <7EF56F66-88CD-4722-BF45-B5054346A38B@comcast.net> References: <5682E7CE-B4EB-490D-A091-00B299201093@comcast.net> <7EF56F66-88CD-4722-BF45-B5054346A38B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <10CBB888-06C1-4F5E-9123-FD84F5A150C5@rcn.com> On May 7, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: > OR maybe you mean a field that when it gets to the bottom of a card > continues on at the next card? The two could be the same thing. If you had text continue, book like, onto the next card, the field that it continues in would probably want to be the same background field. This was a question I've had too, how do you drag a field onto the card, make a new card, and still see the field you just made (because it's a background field)? I don't mean a shared text one either, that's easy to do if you can get the basic background field going. Even doing a set the editbackground of this stack to true is not enough to let you make a background field. From cyoung_mi at yahoo.com Wed May 7 11:02:49 2008 From: cyoung_mi at yahoo.com (Chris Young) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 08:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: VT100 Help Message-ID: <589313.74938.qm@web82707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello, Has anyone done any work in RunRev with Telnet and Vt100? I'm trying to write an app that monitors a log channel and parses out details and displays them in a list box for the user. I've written something like it using Procomm Plus Aspect script. but with RunRev I can add so much more to it. Procomm handles all the protocol translations for me.. so when I read in some test from the server, it's in plain test format. I was wondering if anyone knew of a nice VT100 plug in or had written a simple Telnet client with vt100 translations I could look at? This Application is not for sale, just something personal I'm working on, and would always give proper credit. Thanks! Chris Young From alex at harryscollar.com Wed May 7 11:49:11 2008 From: alex at harryscollar.com (Alex Shaw) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 01:49:11 +1000 Subject: AW: Is it possible to hide the "windows side" of a hybrid CD on aMac? In-Reply-To: <001a01c8b028$456f1f70$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> References: <001a01c8b028$456f1f70$18b2a8c0@TiemoPC2> Message-ID: <4821CF77.7000508@harryscollar.com> Hi I have used this in the past with success.. http://cdeverywhere.com regards alex Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: >>> >>> What is the state of the art of producing such hybrid CDs? Is there >>> any way >>> to "hide" the windows side of the CD from the Mac User, or are the >>> Mac users >>> are just used to this file structure? From jamesjrichards at lineone.net Wed May 7 11:49:47 2008 From: jamesjrichards at lineone.net (James Richards) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 16:49:47 +0100 Subject: VT100 Help In-Reply-To: <589313.74938.qm@web82707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <589313.74938.qm@web82707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3C9334B7-AA9C-4DBD-B357-835AEB1AFF73@lineone.net> There was a MetaCard Telnet stack written some time ago. The latest reference I have found to it is in an email from Jan Schenkel in the archives. This link seems to work http://canelasoftware.com/mc/ metacard24/telnet.mc you should be able to look at the stack and get started from there -- James J Richards jamesjrichards at lineone.net From cyoung_mi at yahoo.com Wed May 7 12:16:51 2008 From: cyoung_mi at yahoo.com (Chris Young) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 09:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: VT100 Help In-Reply-To: <3C9334B7-AA9C-4DBD-B357-835AEB1AFF73@lineone.net> Message-ID: <417334.76446.qm@web82704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you, yes I have been working with that. It has helped ALOT. although I'm trying to add VT100 support and I'm not having much luck parsing and replacing some of the escape codes and such.. --- James Richards wrote: > There was a MetaCard Telnet stack written some time > ago. The latest > reference I have found to it is in an email from Jan > Schenkel in the > archives. This link seems to work > http://canelasoftware.com/mc/ > metacard24/telnet.mc you should be able to look at > the stack and get > started from there > > -- > James J Richards > > jamesjrichards at lineone.net > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and > manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From sanke at hrz.uni-kassel.de Wed May 7 13:37:59 2008 From: sanke at hrz.uni-kassel.de (Wilhelm Sanke) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 19:37:59 +0200 Subject: Another "tool tip" solution Message-ID: <4821E8F7.80509@hrz.uni-kassel.de> The discussion about formatted and multi-line tooltips reminded me of solutions we had tried (in a programming workshop with students) for "annotation" fields as a form of tooltips for words in a text connected to a "linktext". The annotation field is automatically formatted in a somewhat different way than Richmond has proposed. If the text exceeds a certain length it will be spread across several lines. Of course you could also choose any fonts, size, or background color of the field when you modify the script of the hidden button "show Feld Annotation" or change the properties of the annotation field directly. There are three options to display the "tooltips" of the linked words in the text based on three different routines: 1. Mouseclick on the underlined word using "linkclicked" 2. Mouseclick on a "bold" word using "clicktext" 3. Moving the mouse cursor to a "bold" word - without clicking. The formatting features of button "show Feld Annotation" could of course be used and modified to display tooltips of controls. You find the stack here: Best regards, Wilhelm Sanke From andre at andregarzia.com Wed May 7 15:39:25 2008 From: andre at andregarzia.com (Andre Garzia) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 16:39:25 -0300 Subject: Semi-OT: Almost in Vegas... In-Reply-To: <7c87a2a10805070608i530fc453m4d43eae977a45a0b@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c87a2a10805070608i530fc453m4d43eae977a45a0b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7c87a2a10805071239y33fa0295idb43499197e9d4e7@mail.gmail.com> Hello Friends, I am already at Alexis Park, anyone arrived yet? Cheers andre On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > Hello Friends, > > I am now at Houston Airport waiting for my flight to Vegas, contrary > to popular belief my luggage actually arrived with me this time. For > those going to RunRevLive and wanting to meet early, I think I'll > arrive at the hotel about 13:30 or something like that. > > Looking forward to see everyone! > > Cheers > andre > > -- > http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. > -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. From 3mcgrath at comcast.net Wed May 7 16:18:48 2008 From: 3mcgrath at comcast.net (Thomas McGrath III) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 16:18:48 -0400 Subject: ANN: Quartz Composition Filters in Revolution for OSX Message-ID: Dear Revolution Users, Since I could not make it to RunRevLive this year I thought I would contribute a stack to the community from here in Pittsburgh, PA. Announcement: Revolution Quartz Composition Filter Access released to the Revolution community absolutely free for use. This stack and associated files will use the Quartz Composition Filters available from OSX from within the Revolution environment for use in the IDE and standalone applications. Either use the sample graphic supplied or open your own image and apply as many of the available filters to it and then save the image to where ever you like. There are 43 high end filters included in this demonstration stack. This is a fun stack to play with. The Quartz access files are about 18 MB in size so the folder is zipped for easier download. Download here: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/QuartzRR.html Enjoy, Thomas J McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgrath at comcast.net Lazy River Software - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com From rjearp at hotmail.com Wed May 7 16:47:18 2008 From: rjearp at hotmail.com (Bob Earp) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 13:47:18 -0700 Subject: Error with Quicktimeeffects.qtx identified Message-ID: When running a stack on an XP machine I get a Windows error reported as Error Signature with the Modname as quicktimeeffects.qtx, a ModVersion of 7.4.5.67 and Offset 00035857 (whatever all of that means!!). I think the error happens when an audio file is trying to start, but can't be sure. The weird thing is I've only been getting this on one PC, others test OK. The stack is running as a standalone. As far as I can tell the machine in question is in the same configuration as others that are OK, and the latest version of QT is loaded. Anybody have any ideas?? Tnx, Bob... Bob Earp - White Rock, British Columbia. _________________________________________________________________ If you like crossword puzzles, then you'll love Flexicon, a game which combines four overlapping crossword puzzles into one! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/208 From geradamas at yahoo.com Wed May 7 16:51:34 2008 From: geradamas at yahoo.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 21:51:34 +0100 (BST) Subject: Basic sorting problem Message-ID: <988169.63427.qm@web37507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just uploaded improved version: "Sentence Sorter" in RevOnline (under 'Richmond') sincerely, Richmond Mathewson ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From rjearp at hotmail.com Wed May 7 16:51:50 2008 From: rjearp at hotmail.com (Bob Earp) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 13:51:50 -0700 Subject: OT - Contact manager in Rev or ?? Message-ID: Does anybody know of a contact manager that has bee written in Rev? If not, can anybody recommend a contact manager that is preferably cross platform, and the data is shared. I've seen a few web based solutions but none crank my handle. Thanks, Bob... Bob Earp - White Rock, British Columbia _________________________________________________________________ Enter today for your chance to win $1000 a day?today until May 12th. Learn more at SignInAndWIN.ca http://g.msn.ca/ca55/215 From revlist at azurevision.co.uk Wed May 7 16:58:08 2008 From: revlist at azurevision.co.uk (Ian Wood) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 21:58:08 +0100 Subject: ANN: Quartz Composition Filters in Revolution for OSX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10D583D0-31A9-479B-8CA6-DE9DB1E74B10@azurevision.co.uk> Neat stuff! For reference, it would be possible to reduce the file size down considerably if you cut out different languages from the Automator apps - each one contains ~280KB of language files. Ian On 7 May 2008, at 21:18, Thomas McGrath III wrote: > Dear Revolution Users, > > Since I could not make it to RunRevLive this year I thought I would > contribute a stack to the community from here in Pittsburgh, PA. > > Announcement: Revolution Quartz Composition Filter Access released > to the Revolution community absolutely free for use. This stack and > associated files will use the Quartz Composition Filters available > from OSX from within the Revolution environment for use in the IDE > and standalone applications. > > Either use the sample graphic supplied or open your own image and > apply as many of the available filters to it and then save the image > to where ever you like. > > There are 43 high end filters included in this demonstration stack. > This is a fun stack to play with. > > The Quartz access files are about 18 MB in size so the folder is > zipped for easier download. > > Download here: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/QuartzRR.html > > > Enjoy, > > Thomas J McGrath III > Lazy River Software > > 3mcgrath at comcast.net > > Lazy River Software - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From 3mcgrath at comcast.net Wed May 7 17:05:02 2008 From: 3mcgrath at comcast.net (Thomas McGrath III) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 17:05:02 -0400 Subject: ANN: Quartz Composition Filters in Revolution for OSX In-Reply-To: <10D583D0-31A9-479B-8CA6-DE9DB1E74B10@azurevision.co.uk> References: <10D583D0-31A9-479B-8CA6-DE9DB1E74B10@azurevision.co.uk> Message-ID: <667FFC34-DAC5-4B6A-BFBE-09C4FB2E29DA@comcast.net> Thanks, I wrote this today while trying to do something completely different and was side tracked. I will look into trimming the automator files. I also am trying to figure out how to feed the automator files different parameters like I would with Applescript. Thanks again, Tom McGrath On May 7, 2008, at 4:58 PM, Ian Wood wrote: > Neat stuff! > > For reference, it would be possible to reduce the file size down > considerably if you cut out different languages from the Automator > apps - each one contains ~280KB of language files. > > Ian > Thomas J McGrath III 3mcgrath at comcast.net Lazy River Software http://www.lazyriversoftware.com From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Wed May 7 17:13:24 2008 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 23:13:24 +0200 Subject: OT - Contact manager in Rev or ?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Bob, I did quite a few projects that manage contacts, but they're all proprietary. What could possibly be easier than making your own I wonder, though. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Color Converter does what it says. Download it at http://economy-x-talk.com/cc.html On 7 mei 2008, at 22:51, Bob Earp wrote: > > Does anybody know of a contact manager that has bee written in Rev? > If not, can anybody recommend a contact manager that is preferably > cross platform, and the data is shared. I've seen a few web based > solutions but none crank my handle. > > Thanks, Bob... > > Bob Earp - White Rock, British Columbia From hershf at rgllc.us Wed May 7 18:53:33 2008 From: hershf at rgllc.us (Hershel Fisch) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 17:53:33 -0500 Subject: Continues flds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm trying to have text in a field and in the next page (like a book) or card it should start where the previous page left off. Hershel From hershf at rgllc.us Wed May 7 18:55:47 2008 From: hershf at rgllc.us (Hershel Fisch) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 17:55:47 -0500 Subject: Stopping a Process In-Reply-To: <2F9BDCE2-665C-46B2-B56C-D80653A6A2F2@maseurope.net> Message-ID: On 5/6/08 6:37 PM, "Mark Smith" wrote: > > on someFunction > repeat until jobDone > if sStopLoop then exit repeat > doStuff... > wait 0 millisecs with messages -- need this to allow rev to What is this "with massages"? I'm trying to figure it out for the longest time. Hershel > respond to button clicks > end repeat > cleanUpStuff... > end someFunction > > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From pepetoo at cox.net Wed May 7 18:10:52 2008 From: pepetoo at cox.net (Joe Lewis Wilkins) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 15:10:52 -0700 Subject: Continues flds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Hershel, I've been catching your postings for the past day or so, and I'm wondering: why are you not merely using a scrolling text field to hold all of this text? The only reason that I could think of for your needing to separate it into a series of "pages" would be if it is to be associated with some art work that would be associated with that text. Is that the case? If so, what you are proposing is not difficult unless the text is subject to change. I believe your problem must be more complicated than you have presented to the list. What are you trying to do? In Rev there are so very many ways to skin any cat that it is difficult to suggest solutions without truly understanding the underlying objective(s). HTH, Joe Wilkins On May 7, 2008, at 3:53 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote: > I'm trying to have text in a field and in the next page (like a > book) or > card it should start where the previous page left off. > Hershel > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Joe Lewis Wilkins pepetoo at cox.net From noelf at nomigraphics.com Wed May 7 19:12:15 2008 From: noelf at nomigraphics.com (Noel Fields) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 17:12:15 -0600 Subject: Semi-OT: Almost in Vegas... In-Reply-To: <7c87a2a10805071239y33fa0295idb43499197e9d4e7@mail.gmail.co m> References: <7c87a2a10805070608i530fc453m4d43eae977a45a0b@mail.gmail.com> <7c87a2a10805071239y33fa0295idb43499197e9d4e7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: My wife and I have made it to the Alexis! - Noel At 01:39 PM 5/7/2008, you wrote: >Hello Friends, > >I am already at Alexis Park, anyone arrived yet? > >Cheers >andre > >On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > > Hello Friends, > > > > I am now at Houston Airport waiting for my flight to Vegas, contrary > > to popular belief my luggage actually arrived with me this time. For > > those going to RunRevLive and wanting to meet early, I think I'll > > arrive at the hotel about 13:30 or something like that. > > > > Looking forward to see everyone! > > > > Cheers > > andre > > > > -- > > http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. > > > > > >-- >http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. >_______________________________________________ >use-revolution mailing list >use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >subscription preferences: >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From revlist at azurevision.co.uk Wed May 7 20:03:49 2008 From: revlist at azurevision.co.uk (Ian Wood) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 01:03:49 +0100 Subject: Stopping a Process In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49EAA72F-317D-4E76-9F12-66BC40C951A0@azurevision.co.uk> On 7 May 2008, at 23:55, Hershel Fisch wrote: >> wait 0 millisecs with messages -- need this to allow rev to >> respond to button clicks >> > What is this "with massages"? I'm trying to figure it out for the > longest > time. > Hershel As Mark wrote, this is needed so that the user can actually interact in any way during the loop. Waiting without messages means that the interface will stay frozen until the entire handler has finished, meaning that people can't click on 'Cancel' buttons etc. Ian From hershf at rgllc.us Wed May 7 21:12:16 2008 From: hershf at rgllc.us (Hershel Fisch) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 20:12:16 -0500 Subject: Continues flds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 5/7/08 5:10 PM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" wrote: > Hi Hershel, For page layout. Thanks, Hershel > > I've been catching your postings for the past day or so, and I'm > wondering: why are you not merely using a scrolling text field to hold > all of this text? The only reason that I could think of for your > needing to separate it into a series of "pages" would be if it is to > be associated with some art work that would be associated with that > text. Is that the case? If so, what you are proposing is not difficult > unless the text is subject to change. I believe your problem must be > more complicated than you have presented to the list. What are you > trying to do? In Rev there are so very many ways to skin any cat that > it is difficult to suggest solutions without truly understanding the > underlying objective(s). > > HTH, > > Joe Wilkins > > On May 7, 2008, at 3:53 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote: > >> I'm trying to have text in a field and in the next page (like a >> book) or >> card it should start where the previous page left off. >> Hershel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > Joe Lewis Wilkins > pepetoo at cox.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From pepetoo at cox.net Wed May 7 20:50:36 2008 From: pepetoo at cox.net (Joe Lewis Wilkins) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 17:50:36 -0700 Subject: Continues flds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hershel, Maybe I'm kind of dense, but saying "page layout" just doesn't tell me much. Sorry for being so insistent; maybe if I knew the objective of your program it might. Perhaps you've mentioned that earlier and I just missed picking up on it. Joe Wilkins On May 7, 2008, at 6:12 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote: > On 5/7/08 5:10 PM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" wrote: > >> Hi Hershel, > For page layout. > Thanks, Hershel >> >> I've been catching your postings for the past day or so, and I'm >> wondering: why are you not merely using a scrolling text field to >> hold >> all of this text? The only reason that I could think of for your >> needing to separate it into a series of "pages" would be if it is to >> be associated with some art work that would be associated with that >> text. Is that the case? If so, what you are proposing is not >> difficult >> unless the text is subject to change. I believe your problem must be >> more complicated than you have presented to the list. What are you >> trying to do? In Rev there are so very many ways to skin any cat that >> it is difficult to suggest solutions without truly understanding the >> underlying objective(s). >> >> HTH, >> >> Joe Wilkins >> >> On May 7, 2008, at 3:53 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote: >> >>> I'm trying to have text in a field and in the next page (like a >>> book) or >>> card it should start where the previous page left off. >>> Hershel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> >> Joe Lewis Wilkins >> pepetoo at cox.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Joe Lewis Wilkins pepetoo at cox.net From hershf at rgllc.us Wed May 7 22:17:47 2008 From: hershf at rgllc.us (Hershel Fisch) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 21:17:47 -0500 Subject: Tabel field Message-ID: Hi, does any body know how the table fld works on the "application browser stack" ? Thanks, Hershel From coiin at rcn.com Wed May 7 22:05:47 2008 From: coiin at rcn.com (Colin Holgate) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 22:05:47 -0400 Subject: Continues flds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50CE36E6-BF6C-4423-96A3-0F8B6AAC388F@rcn.com> On May 7, 2008, at 8:50 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: > Maybe I'm kind of dense, but saying "page layout" just doesn't tell > me much. Sorry for being so insistent; maybe if I knew the objective > of your program it might. Perhaps you've mentioned that earlier and > I just missed picking up on it. Can one of you give simple steps for making a background field that is still there when you make a new card, and also suggest ways to spread text across that background field, over many cards. For the sake of argument, suppose that there is a few megabytes of text to show, and that might be sluggish in a single scrolling field. From katir at hindu.org Wed May 7 22:08:52 2008 From: katir at hindu.org (Sivakatirswami) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 16:08:52 -1000 Subject: ANN: Quartz Composition Filters in Revolution for OSX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <482260B4.2010301@hindu.org> Thank you, Thank you Thank you! and here I just looked into this last week looking for photo processing options from with Rev and missed something really big and came away thinking "Oh, this Core Image thingy is only for transitions... " Of course, you have built all the external apps. only thing: it worked on Mz Joplin -- but it did not work on a standard 4.8 megapixel camera image is unsharp mask an available filter? Did you build those in Xcode yourself? How hard was that? .I need uThomas McGrath III wrote: > Dear Revolution Users, > > Since I could not make it to RunRevLive this year I thought I would > contribute a stack to the community from here in Pittsburgh, PA. > > Announcement: Revolution Quartz Composition Filter Access released to > the Revolution community absolutely free for use. This stack and > associated files will use the Quartz Composition Filters available > from OSX from within the Revolution environment for use in the IDE and > standalone applications. > > Either use the sample graphic supplied or open your own image and > apply as many of the available filters to it and then save the image > to where ever you like. > > There are 43 high end filters included in this demonstration stack. > This is a fun stack to play with. > > The Quartz access files are about 18 MB in size so the folder is > zipped for easier download. > > Download here: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/QuartzRR.html > > > Enjoy, > > Thomas J McGrath III > Lazy River Software > > 3mcgrath at comcast.net > > Lazy River Software - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From 3mcgrath at comcast.net Wed May 7 22:44:08 2008 From: 3mcgrath at comcast.net (Thomas McGrath III) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 22:44:08 -0400 Subject: ANN: Quartz Composition Filters in Revolution for OSX In-Reply-To: <482260B4.2010301@hindu.org> References: <482260B4.2010301@hindu.org> Message-ID: My Dear Sivakatirswami, You are most welcome, most welcome. I figured since we weren't going to RunRevLive we could still have some fun..... I too was looking into Core transitions which you know we have already in Rev and was trying to make use of some of the built-in features of OSX in Applescript. But no luck. It turns out that the Quartz Filters are only available at this time through Xcode and Aperature, then I found that Automator also has internal access to these filters. But they are not scriptable. The applescript dictionaries for a lot of these new system wide features is half done. There are references to future scriptability for most of them. The difference was that Image effects are apple scriptable and Core transitions are already in Rev but these Quartz Composition Filters are not!!! So, I thought why not just build the Automator workflows and turn them into apps. Then call those apps from applescript from within Rev. But still they won't work directly on an image while it is in Rev but rather I am using rev to show the image, then save the image, then run the automator filter on the image and lastly reload the image and offer the user to save the new image file. It felt like cheating at first but then I realized that in RR these images are editable and savable and usable and this is not that different than doing all of this in an offscreen buffer, not really. Also multiple filters can be applied to the same image with very interesting results. Twirl will build upon Twirl over and over. I have been playing with this all day, it is very addictive. On to your issues: Two things, The first is you may have to apply the filter twice, do it once to initiate the process and then apply it again. This is just with the larger files because of the time the Automator app takes to run and in Rev I only put in a four minute wait. You can change that of course. Secondly, these are meant mostly for PNG files and I don't know what the 4.8 M Image format is. Don't forget that I did this as a demo, so the larger images I set to scale in half and you might want to change that. I would like to put an Undo in and also find a way to further 'script' the process. Unsharp Mask was not among the available filters. But most of them are very high end filters. There are parameters for some of these filters and I am trying to figure out how to access them from Rev, but without scriptability this is a bit harder to accomplish. You can definitely accomplish this and a lot more in Automator and no it is actually very easy once you know what to look for. You should be able to actually open Automator and then open one of the apps I built to see how easy it is. It was almost too easy and yet had not been thought of yet. I hope you enjoyed this demo stack and if you make any changes send me a copy, I would love to see where this could go for us. Regards, Tom McGrath III On May 7, 2008, at 10:08 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: > Thank you, Thank you Thank you! and here I just looked into this > last week looking for photo processing options from with Rev and > missed something really big and came away thinking > > "Oh, this Core Image thingy is only for transitions... " > > Of course, you have built all the external apps. > > only thing: > > it worked on Mz Joplin > > -- but it did not work on a standard 4.8 megapixel camera image > > is unsharp mask an available filter? > > Did you build those in Xcode yourself? How hard was that? > > > .I need u From 3mcgrath at comcast.net Wed May 7 22:46:00 2008 From: 3mcgrath at comcast.net (Thomas McGrath III) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 22:46:00 -0400 Subject: ANN: Quartz Composition Filters in Revolution for OSX In-Reply-To: <482260B4.2010301@hindu.org> References: <482260B4.2010301@hindu.org> Message-ID: <0B0C881B-644B-4527-9226-E2696F14FE1D@comcast.net> One other thing, Once this becomes scriptable from within Applescript it will only need one code with parameters and be much easier to script and use in Rev. Waiting for that day... Tom On May 7, 2008, at 10:08 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: > Thank you, Thank you Thank you! and here I just looked into this > last week looking for photo processing options from with Rev and > missed something really big and came away thinking > > "Oh, this Core Image thingy is only for transitions... " > > Of course, you have built all the external apps. > > only thing: > > it worked on Mz Joplin > > -- but it did not work on a standard 4.8 megapixel camera image > > is unsharp mask an available filter? > > Did you build those in Xcode yourself? How hard was that? > > > .I need uThomas McGrath III wrote: >> Dear Revolution Users, >> >> Since I could not make it to RunRevLive this year I thought I would >> contribute a stack to the community from here in Pittsburgh, PA. >> >> Announcement: Revolution Quartz Composition Filter Access released >> to the Revolution community absolutely free for use. This stack and >> associated files will use the Quartz Composition Filters available >> from OSX from within the Revolution environment for use in the IDE >> and standalone applications. >> >> Either use the sample graphic supplied or open your own image and >> apply as many of the available filters to it and then save the >> image to where ever you like. >> >> There are 43 high end filters included in this demonstration >> stack. This is a fun stack to play with. >> >> The Quartz access files are about 18 MB in size so the folder is >> zipped for easier download. >> >> Download here: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/QuartzRR.html >> >> >> Enjoy, >> >> Thomas J McGrath III >> Lazy River Software >> >> 3mcgrath at comcast.net >> >> Lazy River Software - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From pepetoo at cox.net Wed May 7 23:20:05 2008 From: pepetoo at cox.net (Joe Lewis Wilkins) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 20:20:05 -0700 Subject: Continues flds In-Reply-To: <50CE36E6-BF6C-4423-96A3-0F8B6AAC388F@rcn.com> References: <50CE36E6-BF6C-4423-96A3-0F8B6AAC388F@rcn.com> Message-ID: <40BCCB3D-3F94-4217-AEC3-B6EE71E9FE4F@cox.net> Unlike HC, Rev doesn't use the background concept. So, to do what you want: 1. Create a New Mainstack 2. Drag a scrollable (or non-scrollable) field from the Tools palette onto the stack. It only has one card at this time. 3. Select that field 4. Click on the Group Button in the Tool Bar 5. If you don't see the Object Inspector for that field double click on the field using the Edit Pointer Tool 6. Set the check-box for "Behave like a Background" - at the bottom of the Object Inspector Window. You now have a field that will appear on all of the new cards that you create. If you want it to share text, you'll have to set that property as well; otherwise each card can have unique text. HTH, Joe Wilkins On May 7, 2008, at 7:05 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > > On May 7, 2008, at 8:50 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: > >> Maybe I'm kind of dense, but saying "page layout" just doesn't tell >> me much. Sorry for being so insistent; maybe if I knew the >> objective of your program it might. Perhaps you've mentioned that >> earlier and I just missed picking up on it. > > Can one of you give simple steps for making a background field that > is still there when you make a new card, and also suggest ways to > spread text across that background field, over many cards. For the > sake of argument, suppose that there is a few megabytes of text to > show, and that might be sluggish in a single scrolling field. > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Joe Lewis Wilkins pepetoo at cox.net From coiin at rcn.com Wed May 7 23:28:28 2008 From: coiin at rcn.com (Colin Holgate) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 23:28:28 -0400 Subject: Continues flds In-Reply-To: <40BCCB3D-3F94-4217-AEC3-B6EE71E9FE4F@cox.net> References: <50CE36E6-BF6C-4423-96A3-0F8B6AAC388F@rcn.com> <40BCCB3D-3F94-4217-AEC3-B6EE71E9FE4F@cox.net> Message-ID: <4A178670-0472-458F-BC8A-3153B0B2EAEC@rcn.com> On May 7, 2008, at 11:20 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: > HTH, It did. The ability was more buried than I was expecting! From pepetoo at cox.net Wed May 7 23:50:01 2008 From: pepetoo at cox.net (Joe Lewis Wilkins) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 20:50:01 -0700 Subject: Continues flds In-Reply-To: <4A178670-0472-458F-BC8A-3153B0B2EAEC@rcn.com> References: <50CE36E6-BF6C-4423-96A3-0F8B6AAC388F@rcn.com> <40BCCB3D-3F94-4217-AEC3-B6EE71E9FE4F@cox.net> <4A178670-0472-458F-BC8A-3153B0B2EAEC@rcn.com> Message-ID: Colin, I understand. Nothing in Rev is quite as simple as it was with HC. I think you'll find that it is best/easiest to set up all of the so- called background objects on the first card of the stack, since I think it gets even more complicated if you want to create "background" objects once you have a whole bunch of cards. And it would be a good idea to set all of the Objects' properties at that time as well. So.... try to plan ahead if you can. Joe Wilkins On May 7, 2008, at 8:28 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > > On May 7, 2008, at 11:20 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: > >> HTH, > > It did. The ability was more buried than I was expecting! From katir at hindu.org Wed May 7 23:54:30 2008 From: katir at hindu.org (Sivakatirswami) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 17:54:30 -1000 Subject: ANN: Quartz Composition Filters in Revolution for OSX In-Reply-To: References: <482260B4.2010301@hindu.org> Message-ID: <48227976.3000907@hindu.org> Aloha, Thomas: Thanks for that very clear response. First, I don't call this cheating, I think a lot of us Rev to get various horses under the same harness... No better tool for that! Though if there is no unsharp mask ("critical" for web photos in our book) I will probably use Wilhelm's script which he was kind enough to give a long while back but I've too busy to get into action, but will be needed very soon... I don't see any contraint in your script for .jpg... even your: "answer file "Select a picture to process:" with "PNGs, *.png" is not masking .jpg... and ... testing.... hold... yes, it works on a small .jpg (36k) so, we must just be just facing file size and processing time... I will definitely check out automator (never used it...) Too bad we can't get this on windows. you could so some "crazy stuff" for kids that they would just love... Thanks again for sharing Sivakatirswami IThomas McGrath III wrote: > My Dear Sivakatirswami, > > You are most welcome, most welcome. I figured since we weren't going > to RunRevLive we could still have some fun..... > > I too was looking into Core transitions which you know we have already > in Rev and was trying to make use of some of the built-in features of > OSX in Applescript. But no luck. It turns out that the Quartz Filters > are only available at this time through Xcode and Aperature, then I > found that Automator also has internal access to these filters. But > they are not scriptable. The applescript dictionaries for a lot of > these new system wide features is half done. There are references to > future scriptability for most of them. The difference was that Image > effects are apple scriptable and Core transitions are already in Rev > but these Quartz Composition Filters are not!!! > > So, I thought why not just build the Automator workflows and turn them > into apps. Then call those apps from applescript from within Rev. But > still they won't work directly on an image while it is in Rev but > rather I am using rev to show the image, then save the image, then run > the automator filter on the image and lastly reload the image and > offer the user to save the new image file. It felt like cheating at > first but then I realized that in RR these images are editable and > savable and usable and this is not that different than doing all of > this in an offscreen buffer, not really. Also multiple filters can be > applied to the same image with very interesting results. Twirl will > build upon Twirl over and over. I have been playing with this all day, > it is very addictive. > > On to your issues: Two things, The first is you may have to apply the > filter twice, do it once to initiate the process and then apply it > again. This is just with the larger files because of the time the > Automator app takes to run and in Rev I only put in a four minute > wait. You can change that of course. Secondly, these are meant mostly > for PNG files and I don't know what the 4.8 M Image format is. > > Don't forget that I did this as a demo, so the larger images I set to > scale in half and you might want to change that. > > I would like to put an Undo in and also find a way to further 'script' > the process. > > Unsharp Mask was not among the available filters. But most of them are > very high end filters. > > There are parameters for some of these filters and I am trying to > figure out how to access them from Rev, but without scriptability this > is a bit harder to accomplish. > > You can definitely accomplish this and a lot more in Automator and no > it is actually very easy once you know what to look for. You should be > able to actually open Automator and then open one of the apps I built > to see how easy it is. > > It was almost too easy and yet had not been thought of yet. > > I hope you enjoyed this demo stack and if you make any changes send me > a copy, I would love to see where this could go for us. > > Regards, > > Tom McGrath III > On May 7, 2008, at 10:08 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: > >> Thank you, Thank you Thank you! and here I just looked into this last >> week looking for photo processing options from with Rev and missed >> something really big and came away thinking >> >> "Oh, this Core Image thingy is only for transitions... " >> >> Of course, you have built all the external apps. >> >> only thing: >> >> it worked on Mz Joplin >> >> -- but it did not work on a standard 4.8 megapixel camera image >> >> is unsharp mask an available filter? >> >> Did you build those in Xcode yourself? How hard was that? >> >> >> .I need u > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From lan.kc.macmail at gmail.com Wed May 7 23:58:26 2008 From: lan.kc.macmail at gmail.com (Kay C Lan) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 11:58:26 +0800 Subject: Continues flds In-Reply-To: <4A178670-0472-458F-BC8A-3153B0B2EAEC@rcn.com> References: <50CE36E6-BF6C-4423-96A3-0F8B6AAC388F@rcn.com> <40BCCB3D-3F94-4217-AEC3-B6EE71E9FE4F@cox.net> <4A178670-0472-458F-BC8A-3153B0B2EAEC@rcn.com> Message-ID: OK this is what I did as a VERY BASIC test to create a field that once you 'fill a field up' it will automatically take you to the 'Next Card' which has the same field and allows you to just keep typing. New stack. New plain field 'Field1' Make it a group and give it backgroundBehavior Make a New Card and check that 'Field1' is automatically copied across. In the group script put this 11 line script. 1 ON rawKeyDown pKeyCode 2 IF ((the formattedheight of field "Field1") > (the height of field "Field1")) THEN 3 go to card (the number of this card + 1) 4 put char -1 field "Field1" of card (the number of this card - 1) into field "Field1" 5 delete char -1 of field "Field1" of card (the number of this card - 1) 6 select after field "Field1" 7 pass rawKeyDown pKeyCode 8 ELSE 9 pass rawKeyDown pKeyCode 10 END IF 11 END rawKeyDown Notes: 1) Unlike the documentation that say its important to 'pass rawKeyDown' and then give an example without the the actual key code to pass, it's imperative to include this vital parameter. 2) You need to play with formattedHeight and height because in this basic version the text will skip to the next field when their is still quite a margin left - I assume it has something to do with margins so maybe formattedHeight > (height + margin) or margin/2? 3) You'll need to be check that a Next Card exists or create one if doesn't. 4) Haven't though too much about Pasting text in - I imagine you'd need some kind of 'Repeat for each' loop to simulate typing the text in. It's a very basic start, but it's possible. From john at debraneys.com Thu May 8 00:15:08 2008 From: john at debraneys.com (John Tregea) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 04:15:08 +0000 Subject: Continues flds Message-ID: Hi Hershel, I may have missed something in this thread but what is stopping you from just putting the text in appropriate sized chunks on a series of cards? NOt programatically, just cut and paste your total text into appropriate blocks across how ever many cards you need? Regards John T -----Original Message----- From: Hershel Fisch [mailto:hershf at rgllc.us] Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 08:53 AM To: 'How to use Revolution' Subject: Re: Continues flds I'm trying to have text in a field and in the next page (like a book) orcard it should start where the previous page left off.Hershel_______________________________________________use-revolution mailing listuse-revolution at lists.runrev.comPlease visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From 3mcgrath at comcast.net Thu May 8 00:48:17 2008 From: 3mcgrath at comcast.net (Thomas McGrath III) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 00:48:17 -0400 Subject: ANN: Quartz Composition Filters in Revolution for OSX In-Reply-To: <48227976.3000907@hindu.org> References: <482260B4.2010301@hindu.org> <48227976.3000907@hindu.org> Message-ID: Kind words, I did find an Automator action for unSharp Mask but it has different parameters than the Quartz suite and is not a part of it. It should work as an Automator Application but my first try to access it in Rev failed. I will play more tomorrow with it. There are others too in Utilities in Automator: Scale Sharpness (graphic converter) Brightness Autolevel Rotate Also saw some for PDFs URLs etc. Let ya know, Tom On May 7, 2008, at 11:54 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: > Aloha, Thomas: > > Thanks for that very clear response. > First, I don't call this cheating, > I think a lot of us Rev to get various horses under the same > harness... > No better tool for that! > > Though if there is no unsharp mask ("critical" for web photos in our > book) I will probably use Wilhelm's script which he was kind enough > to give a long while back but I've too busy to get into action, but > will be needed very soon... From bvlahos at mac.com Thu May 8 00:59:50 2008 From: bvlahos at mac.com (Bill Vlahos) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 21:59:50 -0700 Subject: OT - Contact manager in Rev or ?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <65D63189-5C3F-4D5D-AE10-978A24A53F31@mac.com> Bob, There are a lot of different programs big and small that help manage contacts. What features are you looking for? The only features you describe here are that it is cross platform and can share the data. How do you want to share the data; between different people over the network or you on different computers? I will be showing a program called InfoWallet I am developing at RunRevLive this weekend that allows you to manage your contacts (and a lot more) in a secure and portable way. It is in first round beta testing and I'm about to open it up to a much larger group. I'll be sending an email to this list after RunRevLive if anyone is interested in participating in the beta. Bill Vlahos On May 7, 2008, at 1:51 PM, Bob Earp wrote: > > Does anybody know of a contact manager that has bee written in > Rev? If not, can anybody recommend a contact manager that is > preferably cross platform, and the data is shared. I've seen a few > web based solutions but none crank my handle. > > Thanks, Bob... > > Bob Earp - White Rock, British Columbia > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Enter today for your chance to win $1000 a day?today until May > 12th. Learn more at SignInAndWIN.ca > http://g.msn.ca/ > ca55/215_______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From JimAultWins at yahoo.com Thu May 8 01:07:17 2008 From: JimAultWins at yahoo.com (Jim Ault) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 22:07:17 -0700 Subject: Continues flds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 5/7/08 9:15 PM, "John Tregea" wrote: > Hi Hershel, > > I may have missed something in this thread but what is stopping you from just > putting the text in appropriate sized chunks on a series of cards? NOt > programatically, just cut and paste your total text into appropriate blocks > across how ever many cards you need? > > Regards > > John T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hershel Fisch [mailto:hershf at rgllc.us] > Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 08:53 AM > To: 'How to use Revolution' > Subject: Re: Continues flds > > I'm trying to have text in a field and in the next page (like a book) orcard > it should start where the previous page left > off. You could also have Rav cast the text as images and make the user think they were going card to card and all you would do is produce the slide show (blending would be a nice touch to produce a transition) import snapshot of the rect of the formattedtext of line 1 to 24 of field displayText as JPEG fld displayText would be off-screen, the 'last image' would be the new one, you could set it to the layer behind the current visible on, then do a blendLevel to reveal the new image, then delete the old one. You could trigger forward and backward image snapshots. BTW, is there a reason you don't just set the scroll of a field as the user clicks, rather than card to card? Jim Ault Las Vegas From JimAultWins at yahoo.com Thu May 8 01:10:31 2008 From: JimAultWins at yahoo.com (Jim Ault) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 22:10:31 -0700 Subject: Stopping a Process In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If you don't use 'with messages' the wait command will halt the current handler and any messaging activity, such as a user click. The 'with messages' allows other messages to be sent and received, such as waiting for a web server to send more data, or an ftp download to keep working while the user does other activities. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 5/7/08 3:55 PM, "Hershel Fisch" wrote: > On 5/6/08 6:37 PM, "Mark Smith" wrote: > >> >> on someFunction >> repeat until jobDone >> if sStopLoop then exit repeat >> doStuff... >> wait 0 millisecs with messages -- need this to allow rev to > What is this "with massages"? I'm trying to figure it out for the longest > time. > Hershel >> respond to button clicks >> end repeat >> cleanUpStuff... >> end someFunction >> > >> >> Mark >> From craigam at unimelb.edu.au Thu May 8 01:22:03 2008 From: craigam at unimelb.edu.au (Craig McArthur) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 15:22:03 +1000 Subject: Error with Quicktimeeffects.qtx identified In-Reply-To: <20080508051039.7EF784897C3@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: This could be related to the fact that the record sound file command in rev on Windows is broken by QuickTime 7.4. The Enhanced QuickTime extension has been recompiled to fix some problems it was having with QT 7.4 also (thanks Trevor). Anyone know if the record function is to be fixed? Is it fixed in 2.9? I don?t like mciSendString... Cheers Craig On 8/5/08 3:10 PM, "use-revolution-request at lists.runrev.com" wrote: > When running a stack on an XP machine I get a Windows error reported as Error > Signature with the Modname as quicktimeeffects.qtx, a ModVersion of 7.4.5.67 > and Offset 00035857 (whatever all of that means!!). I think the error happens > when an audio file is trying to start, but can't be sure. The weird thing is > I've only been getting this on one PC, others test OK. The stack is running > as a standalone. > > As far as I can tell the machine in question is in the same configuration as > others that are OK, and the latest version of QT is loaded. > > Anybody have any ideas?? > > Tnx, Bob... > > Bob Earp - White Rock, British Columbia. Craig McArthur Horwood Language Centre School of Languages University of Melbourne, Australia From hershf at rgllc.us Thu May 8 02:35:04 2008 From: hershf at rgllc.us (Hershel Fisch) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 01:35:04 -0500 Subject: Continues flds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 5/7/08 7:50 PM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" wrote: > Hershel, > > Maybe I'm kind of dense, but saying "page layout" just doesn't tell me > much. Sorry for being so insistent; maybe if I knew the objective of > your program it might. Perhaps you've mentioned that earlier and I > just missed picking up on it. If you change the field size then the text should automatically reorganize and it should carry on to the next page or previous or vise versa. Hershel > > Joe Wilkins > > On May 7, 2008, at 6:12 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote: > >> On 5/7/08 5:10 PM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" wrote: >> >>> Hi Hershel, >> For page layout. >> Thanks, Hershel >>> >>> I've been catching your postings for the past day or so, and I'm >>> wondering: why are you not merely using a scrolling text field to >>> hold >>> all of this text? The only reason that I could think of for your >>> needing to separate it into a series of "pages" would be if it is to >>> be associated with some art work that would be associated with that >>> text. Is that the case? If so, what you are proposing is not >>> difficult >>> unless the text is subject to change. I believe your problem must be >>> more complicated than you have presented to the list. What are you >>> trying to do? In Rev there are so very many ways to skin any cat that >>> it is difficult to suggest solutions without truly understanding the >>> underlying objective(s). >>> >>> HTH, >>> >>> Joe Wilkins >>> >>> On May 7, 2008, at 3:53 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote: >>> >>>> I'm trying to have text in a field and in the next page (like a >>>> book) or >>>> card it should start where the previous page left off. >>>> Hershel >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> use-revolution mailing list >>>> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>> subscription preferences: >>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>> >>> Joe Lewis Wilkins >>> pepetoo at cox.net >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription >>> preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > Joe Lewis Wilkins > pepetoo at cox.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From JimAultWins at yahoo.com Thu May 8 01:45:19 2008 From: JimAultWins at yahoo.com (Jim Ault) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 22:45:19 -0700 Subject: Continues flds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ah, you mean 'text flow' or 'story flow' like they do in Quark. That is a specialty feature that word processors and layout programs use, just like text wrap. You could build it in Rev using the formattedHeight, formattedWidth. It will get tricky if you want to allow multiple font specs, such as bold, font face, etc. More than I would want to tackle. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 5/7/08 11:35 PM, "Hershel Fisch" wrote: > On 5/7/08 7:50 PM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" wrote: > >> Hershel, >> >> Maybe I'm kind of dense, but saying "page layout" just doesn't tell me >> much. Sorry for being so insistent; maybe if I knew the objective of >> your program it might. Perhaps you've mentioned that earlier and I >> just missed picking up on it. > If you change the field size then the text should automatically reorganize > and it should carry on to the next page or previous or vise versa. > Hershel >> >> Joe Wilkins >> >> On May 7, 2008, at 6:12 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote: >> >>> On 5/7/08 5:10 PM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Hershel, >>> For page layout. >>> Thanks, Hershel >>>> >>>> I've been catching your postings for the past day or so, and I'm >>>> wondering: why are you not merely using a scrolling text field to >>>> hold >>>> all of this text? The only reason that I could think of for your >>>> needing to separate it into a series of "pages" would be if it is to >>>> be associated with some art work that would be associated with that >>>> text. Is that the case? If so, what you are proposing is not >>>> difficult >>>> unless the text is subject to change. I believe your problem must be >>>> more complicated than you have presented to the list. What are you >>>> trying to do? In Rev there are so very many ways to skin any cat that >>>> it is difficult to suggest solutions without truly understanding the >>>> underlying objective(s). >>>> >>>> HTH, >>>> >>>> Joe Wilkins >>>> >>>> On May 7, 2008, at 3:53 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm trying to have text in a field and in the next page (like a >>>>> book) or >>>>> card it should start where the previous page left off. >>>>> Hershel >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> use-revolution mailing list >>>>> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >>>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>>> subscription preferences: >>>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>>> >>>> Joe Lewis Wilkins >>>> pepetoo at cox.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> use-revolution mailing list >>>> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>> subscription >>>> preferences: >>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> >> Joe Lewis Wilkins >> pepetoo at cox.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From pepetoo at cox.net Thu May 8 02:08:55 2008 From: pepetoo at cox.net (Joe Lewis Wilkins) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 23:08:55 -0700 Subject: Continues flds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey, Jim, Thanks for stepping in and clearing up Hershel's probable intent. Too much for me as well. Unless he is actually trying to emulate a Layout Program such as Quark, he'd probably be better off revising his objective. If so, maybe someone else has an idea. Joe Wilkins On May 7, 2008, at 10:45 PM, Jim Ault wrote: > Ah, you mean 'text flow' or 'story flow' like they do in Quark. > That is a > specialty feature that word processors and layout programs use, just > like > text wrap. You could build it in Rev using the formattedHeight, > formattedWidth. It will get tricky if you want to allow multiple font > specs, such as bold, font face, etc. > > More than I would want to tackle. > > Jim Ault > Las Vegas > > > On 5/7/08 11:35 PM, "Hershel Fisch" wrote: > >> On 5/7/08 7:50 PM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" wrote: >> >>> Hershel, >>> >>> Maybe I'm kind of dense, but saying "page layout" just doesn't >>> tell me >>> much. Sorry for being so insistent; maybe if I knew the objective of >>> your program it might. Perhaps you've mentioned that earlier and I >>> just missed picking up on it. >>> >> If you change the field size then the text should automatically >> reorganize >> and it should carry on to the next page or previous or vise versa. >> Hershel >>> >>> Joe Wilkins >>> >>> On May 7, 2008, at 6:12 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote: >>> >>>> On 5/7/08 5:10 PM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Hershel, >>>> For page layout. >>>> Thanks, Hershel >>>>> >>>>> I've been catching your postings for the past day or so, and I'm >>>>> wondering: why are you not merely using a scrolling text field to >>>>> hold >>>>> all of this text? The only reason that I could think of for your >>>>> needing to separate it into a series of "pages" would be if it >>>>> is to >>>>> be associated with some art work that would be associated with >>>>> that >>>>> text. Is that the case? If so, what you are proposing is not >>>>> difficult >>>>> unless the text is subject to change. I believe your problem >>>>> must be >>>>> more complicated than you have presented to the list. What are you >>>>> trying to do? In Rev there are so very many ways to skin any cat >>>>> that >>>>> it is difficult to suggest solutions without truly understanding >>>>> the >>>>> underlying objective(s). >>>>> >>>>> HTH, >>>>> >>>>> Joe Wilkins >>>>> >>>>> On May 7, 2008, at 3:53 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm trying to have text in a field and in the next page (like a >>>>>> book) or >>>>>> card it should start where the previous page left off. >>>>>> Hershel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> From eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com Thu May 8 03:44:51 2008 From: eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com (Eric Chatonet) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 09:44:51 +0200 Subject: Continues flds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19C14BB2-48E8-4739-AFF7-253D0C8E840A@sosmartsoftware.com> Bonjour Hershel, Le 8 mai 08 ? 00:53, Hershel Fisch a ?crit : > I'm trying to have text in a field and in the next page (like a > book) or > card it should start where the previous page left off. > Hershel Two years ago I did it in a kind of 'book' layout: see the LAMM project at http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/?r=logiciels&l=en As the user could change the text size, I had to reorganize it on - the-fly and calculate 'text flow'. The only thing I remember well is that was tricky ;-) I ended by having a single card with one (or two) field containing the whole text (without scroll bar) and just set the scroll programmatically combined with a visual effect to 'fake' pages turning. So I did not use what you call 'flds continuing' but two fields only even if a wipe left/right let the user think the 'card' has changed. May be a clue for you? Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------- From sbrami at noos.fr Thu May 8 05:06:58 2008 From: sbrami at noos.fr (serge BRAMI) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 11:06:58 +0200 Subject: objects in loc Message-ID: I need a function whose name could be objectinloc returning from a specified loc the list of objects whose rect include this loc Is there this kind of built in function in Rev ? serge BRAMI sbrami at noos.fr From eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com Thu May 8 05:35:59 2008 From: eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com (Eric Chatonet) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 11:35:59 +0200 Subject: objects in loc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6F48F4F4-0861-4605-B5A9-0F53394455A2@sosmartsoftware.com> Bonjour Serge, Le 8 mai 08 ? 11:06, serge BRAMI a ?crit : > I need a function whose name could be objectinloc returning from > a specified loc the list of objects whose rect include this loc The intersect Rev function can't help you in such a case but: on mouseUp local tRefLoc ----- put "100,100" into tRefLoc -- or whatever: the mouseLoc, etc. put objectInLoc(tRefLoc) end mouseUp --------------------------------------- function objectInLoc pLoc local tControl,tControls ----- repeat with i = 1 to the number of controls if pLoc is within the rect of control i then put the long name of control i & cr after tControls end if end repeat delete last char of tControls return tControls end objectInLoc You'll get a list of the long names of all controls in the current card that match the condition. Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------- From mikeythek at gmail.com Thu May 8 09:09:46 2008 From: mikeythek at gmail.com (Mikey) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 09:09:46 -0400 Subject: OT - Contact manager in Rev or ?? In-Reply-To: <65D63189-5C3F-4D5D-AE10-978A24A53F31@mac.com> References: <65D63189-5C3F-4D5D-AE10-978A24A53F31@mac.com> Message-ID: <9b408d8e0805080609r6ce9c040iac03aafbdce64d3b@mail.gmail.com> If you can find it, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY back in the day there was one of the best contact managers ever called Connections. It became the inspiration for Claris Organizer, which is now Palm Desktp for the Mac. If you can find it, let me know, because I'd like to bring it up to date. From benr_mc at cogapp.com Thu May 8 09:52:23 2008 From: benr_mc at cogapp.com (Ben Rubinstein) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 14:52:23 +0100 Subject: ANN: Quartz Composition Filters in Revolution for OSX In-Reply-To: References: <482260B4.2010301@hindu.org> Message-ID: <48230597.8010605@cogapp.com> On 8/5/08 03:44, Thomas McGrath III wrote: > I too was looking into Core transitions which you know we have already > in Rev and was trying to make use of some of the built-in features of > OSX in Applescript. But no luck. It turns out that the Quartz Filters > are only available at this time through Xcode and Aperature, then I > found that Automator also has internal access to these filters. But they > are not scriptable. The applescript dictionaries for a lot of these new > system wide features is half done. There are references to future > scriptability for most of them. The difference was that Image effects > are apple scriptable and Core transitions are already in Rev but these > Quartz Composition Filters are not!!! > > So, I thought why not just build the Automator workflows and turn them > into apps. Then call those apps from applescript from within Rev. But > still they won't work directly on an image while it is in Rev but rather > I am using rev to show the image, then save the image, then run the > automator filter on the image and lastly reload the image and offer the > user to save the new image file. It felt like cheating at first but then > I realized that in RR these images are editable and savable and usable > and this is not that different than doing all of this in an offscreen > buffer, not really. Also multiple filters can be applied to the same > image with very interesting results. Twirl will build upon Twirl over > and over. I have been playing with this all day, it is very addictive. > > On to your issues: Two things, The first is you may have to apply the > filter twice, do it once to initiate the process and then apply it > again. This is just with the larger files because of the time the > Automator app takes to run and in Rev I only put in a four minute wait. Tom, Many thanks for contributing this. Could I also solicit your (and other) votes for: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=3055 Which is to extend the Core Image support currently in Rev, from Transitions only to include Effects. Cheers, - Ben From 3mcgrath at comcast.net Thu May 8 11:15:47 2008 From: 3mcgrath at comcast.net (Thomas McGrath III) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 11:15:47 -0400 Subject: ANN: Quartz Composition Filters in Revolution for OSX In-Reply-To: <48230597.8010605@cogapp.com> References: <482260B4.2010301@hindu.org> <48230597.8010605@cogapp.com> Message-ID: <615AC8F4-60A7-448C-863F-78CF33B3487B@comcast.net> Ben, I voted for this. Although it is Mac only it would help compete in the multi-media categories for Rev development. Thanks, Tom On May 8, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: > On 8/5/08 03:44, Thomas McGrath III wrote: >> I too was looking into Core transitions which you know we have >> already in Rev and was trying to make use of some of the built-in >> features of OSX in Applescript. But no luck. It turns out that the >> Quartz Filters are only available at this time through Xcode and >> Aperature, then I found that Automator also has internal access to >> these filters. > > Tom, > > Many thanks for contributing this. Could I also solicit your (and > other) votes for: > > http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=3055 > > Which is to extend the Core Image support currently in Rev, from > Transitions only to include Effects. > > Cheers, > > - Ben > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From geradamas at yahoo.com Thu May 8 11:28:52 2008 From: geradamas at yahoo.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 16:28:52 +0100 (BST) Subject: Text tricks: an invitation. Message-ID: <488582.43555.qm@web37508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Recently some interesting questions about text manipulation have come up on the Use-List, and I began to wonder if, I at least, was not reinventing the wheel. To help this problem I have started a Yahoo Group 'RRText Tricks' http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrtexttricks/ and uploaded a couple of stacks to get things rolling. I would be extremely grateful if anybody with any 'stray' text stacks would upload them there so there is a publically available repository for those who could do without reinventing the wheel. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From mpetrides at earthlink.net Thu May 8 11:46:06 2008 From: mpetrides at earthlink.net (Marian Petrides, M.D.) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 08:46:06 -0700 Subject: Semi-OT: Almost in Vegas... In-Reply-To: <7c87a2a10805071239y33fa0295idb43499197e9d4e7@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c87a2a10805070608i530fc453m4d43eae977a45a0b@mail.gmail.com> <7c87a2a10805071239y33fa0295idb43499197e9d4e7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Got this too late. Would have loved to get together yesterday. On May 7, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: > Hello Friends, > > I am already at Alexis Park, anyone arrived yet? > > Cheers > andre > > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Andre Garzia > wrote: >> Hello Friends, >> >> I am now at Houston Airport waiting for my flight to Vegas, contrary >> to popular belief my luggage actually arrived with me this time. For >> those going to RunRevLive and wanting to meet early, I think I'll >> arrive at the hotel about 13:30 or something like that. >> >> Looking forward to see everyone! >> >> Cheers >> andre >> >> -- >> http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. >> > > > > -- > http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From lfredricks at proactive-intl.com Thu May 8 11:50:59 2008 From: lfredricks at proactive-intl.com (Lynn Fredricks) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 08:50:59 -0700 Subject: Semi-OT: Almost in Vegas... In-Reply-To: References: <7c87a2a10805070608i530fc453m4d43eae977a45a0b@mail.gmail.com><7c87a2a10805071239y33fa0295idb43499197e9d4e7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004701c8b123$4fd0e100$6501a8c0@GATEWAY> Ill be there in plenty of time for Jo's soire :-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Mirye Software Publishing http://www.mirye.com Mirye Community NING http://miryesoftware.ning.com > -----Original Message----- > From: use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com > [mailto:use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of > Marian Petrides, M.D. > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:46 AM > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Almost in Vegas... > > Got this too late. Would have loved to get together yesterday. > > On May 7, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: > > > Hello Friends, > > > > I am already at Alexis Park, anyone arrived yet? > > > > Cheers > > andre > > > > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Andre Garzia > > > wrote: > >> Hello Friends, > >> > >> I am now at Houston Airport waiting for my flight to > Vegas, contrary > >> to popular belief my luggage actually arrived with me this > time. For > >> those going to RunRevLive and wanting to meet early, I think I'll > >> arrive at the hotel about 13:30 or something like that. > >> > >> Looking forward to see everyone! > >> > >> Cheers > >> andre > >> > >> -- > >> http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. > > _______________________________________________ > > use-revolution mailing list > > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage > your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From kray at sonsothunder.com Thu May 8 13:04:49 2008 From: kray at sonsothunder.com (Ken Ray) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 10:04:49 -0700 Subject: OT - Contact manager in Rev or ?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Does anybody know of a contact manager that has bee written in Rev? If not, > can anybody recommend a contact manager that is preferably cross platform, and > the data is shared. I've seen a few web based solutions but none crank my > handle. Bob, I know Hugh Senior's been working on one recently, and I've seen a couple of builds and it looks pretty cool... why don't you send him an email and he can go over it with you? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: kray at sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ From larsbrehmer at mac.com Thu May 8 13:25:42 2008 From: larsbrehmer at mac.com (Lars Brehmer) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 20:25:42 +0300 Subject: Text Tricks invitation... Message-ID: I was just thinking about a text question I have no clue whatsover on how to solve when I saw Richmonds post, so let me ask you text experts about it if I may. Suppose I have been working with an IPA font for a while, but want to switch to a different one, but the new one uses different key combinations (straight key, alt+key, shift+key, etc.) to produce the characters. It seems that I would need a script that replaces each old keystroke comination with the new one. I have to assume this is possible, and most likely not too difficult to do, but again, I haven't the on foggiest how to do this. The idea here is that my Times IPA font is neither free nor distributable, but there is an alternative free IPA font that CAN be distributed, so I was thinking about including that one in my standalones and using revFontLoad (which I also haven't really figured out yet.) Suggestions and tips? Cheers, Lars From bob.earp at ashford.ca Thu May 8 16:16:54 2008 From: bob.earp at ashford.ca (Robert Earp) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 13:16:54 -0700 Subject: OT - Contact manager in Rev or ?? Message-ID: <85C490ED-F38B-4E9E-8AC3-4A03B7ABA83F@ashford.ca> Time............ ;-) > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 23:13:24 +0200 > From: Mark Schonewille > Subject: Re: OT - Contact manager in Rev or ?? > To: How to use Revolution > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Hi Bob, > > I did quite a few projects that manage contacts, but they're all > proprietary. What could possibly be easier than making your own I > wonder, though. > > Best regards, > > Mark Schonewille > > -- > > Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering > http://economy-x-talk.com > http://www.salery.biz > > Color Converter does what it says. Download it at http://economy-x-talk.com/cc.html > > On 7 mei 2008, at 22:51, Bob Earp wrote: > > > > > Does anybody know of a contact manager that has bee written in Rev? > > If not, can anybody recommend a contact manager that is preferably > > cross platform, and the data is shared. I've seen a few web based > > solutions but none crank my handle. > > > > Thanks, Bob... > > > > Bob Earp - White Rock, British Columbia ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.ashford.ca www.cabinsimulators.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert J. Earp - President Ashford Technologies Inc. 18059 21A Ave, Surrey British Columbia. V3S 9V7 Canada t: (+1) 604 541 1662 f: (+1) 604 541 1686 From bob.earp at ashford.ca Thu May 8 16:56:45 2008 From: bob.earp at ashford.ca (Robert Earp) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 13:56:45 -0700 Subject: OT - Contact manager in Rev or ?? Message-ID: <772E185B-130D-42A7-99E6-1DA7E322F39B@ashford.ca> Thanks for the reply Bill. I tried to keep the msg short as I know how long it takes to wade through so much activity on this list. Not that I'm complaining !! Simply, there's myself and at least one other colleague that needs to manage customers/contacts from a project or marketing perspective. With us both traveling we need to keep up to speed with each others activities with customers, and also remind us to contact customers on specific dates. The information we need to share is be basic contact info, notes that we would make when contacting the individual/company, plus the ability to set reminders. As Mark suggested, why not just script your own? Yes, we could, but I'd prefer not to as I have enough to do getting Rev to talk to external devices plus working out the "idiosyncrasies" of runtime Rev on Windoze vs. OS X ;-) I'd be very interested in learning what your project has to offer and helping test it for you, assuming it did what we are looking for, or at least part. best, Bob... > Message: 29 > Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 21:59:50 -0700 > From: Bill Vlahos > Subject: Re: OT - Contact manager in Rev or ?? > To: How to use Revolution > Message-ID: <65D63189-5C3F-4D5D-AE10-978A24A53F31 at mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; > format=flowed > > Bob, > > There are a lot of different programs big and small that help manage > contacts. What features are you looking for? The only features you > describe here are that it is cross platform and can share the data. > How do you want to share the data; between different people over the > network or you on different computers? > > I will be showing a program called InfoWallet I am developing at > RunRevLive this weekend that allows you to manage your contacts (and > a lot more) in a secure and portable way. > > It is in first round beta testing and I'm about to open it up to a > much larger group. I'll be sending an email to this list after > RunRevLive if anyone is interested in participating in the beta. > > Bill Vlahos ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.ashford.ca www.cabinsimulators.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert J. Earp - President Ashford Technologies Inc. 18059 21A Ave, Surrey British Columbia. V3S 9V7 Canada t: (+1) 604 541 1662 f: (+1) 604 541 1686 From bob.earp at ashford.ca Thu May 8 17:17:29 2008 From: bob.earp at ashford.ca (Robert Earp) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 14:17:29 -0700 Subject: Error with Quicktimeeffects.qtx - problem better identified Message-ID: <751B5239-A872-4D02-AB20-60EBC9014EF5@ashford.ca> Thanks Craig, you've most probably identified my next problem as I have just managed to narrow the problem to a screen transition rather than playing an audio file. There are a number of things going on when the error occurs, and it's now looking like it happens when I do the following; lock screen unlock screen with visual effect dissolve Another observation is that if I run the stand-alone .exe in the Windows 98/Me Compatibility mode, on the PC where we get the problem, the error does not occur but I then don't get any audio playing. Of course, the latter may be the issue you have spoken about, and besides, I really don't wish to run in this mode anyway!! Why can't the world move to OS X.............. best, Bob... > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 15:22:03 +1000 > From: Craig McArthur > Subject: Re: Error with Quicktimeeffects.qtx identified > To: use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > This could be related to the fact that the record sound file command > in rev > on Windows is broken by QuickTime 7.4. The Enhanced QuickTime > extension has > been recompiled to fix some problems it was having with QT 7.4 also > (thanks > Trevor). Anyone know if the record function is to be fixed? Is it > fixed in > 2.9? I don?t like mciSendString... > > Cheers > Craig > > > On 8/5/08 3:10 PM, "use-revolution-request at lists.runrev.com" > wrote: > > > When running a stack on an XP machine I get a Windows error > reported as Error > > Signature with the Modname as quicktimeeffects.qtx, a ModVersion > of 7.4.5.67 > > and Offset 00035857 (whatever all of that means!!). I think the > error happens > > when an audio file is trying to start, but can't be sure. The > weird thing is > > I've only been getting this on one PC, others test OK. The stack > is running > > as a standalone. > > > > As far as I can tell the machine in question is in the same > configuration as > > others that are OK, and the latest version of QT is loaded. > > > > Anybody have any ideas?? > > > > Tnx, Bob... > > > > Bob Earp - White Rock, British Columbia. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.ashford.ca www.cabinsimulators.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert J. Earp - President Ashford Technologies Inc. 18059 21A Ave, Surrey British Columbia. V3S 9V7 Canada t: (+1) 604 541 1662 f: (+1) 604 541 1686 From hershf at rgllc.us Thu May 8 22:20:53 2008 From: hershf at rgllc.us (Hershel Fisch) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 21:20:53 -0500 Subject: Front window Message-ID: Hi all, a little scenario, I have a window when clicking in its table fld another window opens with a on openStack script in it which puts in a query in its flds. The first fld has a on openField script in it and it triggers before the window is visible meaning that the previous window where I'm clicking is still showing(I understand that the second window is already the active one) how do I make sure that before the new window is full visible on the screen it should not trigger the openField message? Thanks, Hershel From hershf at rgllc.us Thu May 8 22:36:47 2008 From: hershf at rgllc.us (Hershel Fisch) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 21:36:47 -0500 Subject: Continues flds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 5/8/08 12:45 AM, "Jim Ault" wrote: > Ah, you mean 'text flow' or 'story flow' like they do in Quark. That is a > specialty feature that word processors and layout programs use, Good, that?s exactly what I would love to do, but Quark doesn't do it in the language I want and the way I want. Well I don't need it a sophisticated as Quark,(maybe yes who knows) but to some extent. And mainly for text only. And by the way what would be the max file size in RR? Hershel > just like text wrap. You could build it in Rev using the formattedHeight, > formattedWidth. It will get tricky if you want to allow multiple font > specs, such as bold, font face, etc. > > More than I would want to tackle. > > Jim Ault > Las Vegas > > > On 5/7/08 11:35 PM, "Hershel Fisch" wrote: > >> On 5/7/08 7:50 PM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" wrote: >> >>> Hershel, >>> >>> Maybe I'm kind of dense, but saying "page layout" just doesn't tell me >>> much. Sorry for being so insistent; maybe if I knew the objective of >>> your program it might. Perhaps you've mentioned that earlier and I >>> just missed picking up on it. >> If you change the field size then the text should automatically reorganize >> and it should carry on to the next page or previous or vise versa. >> Hershel >>> >>> Joe Wilkins >>> >>> On May 7, 2008, at 6:12 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote: >>> >>>> On 5/7/08 5:10 PM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Hershel, >>>> For page layout. >>>> Thanks, Hershel >>>>> >>>>> I've been catching your postings for the past day or so, and I'm >>>>> wondering: why are you not merely using a scrolling text field to >>>>> hold >>>>> all of this text? The only reason that I could think of for your >>>>> needing to separate it into a series of "pages" would be if it is to >>>>> be associated with some art work that would be associated with that >>>>> text. Is that the case? If so, what you are proposing is not >>>>> difficult >>>>> unless the text is subject to change. I believe your problem must be >>>>> more complicated than you have presented to the list. What are you >>>>> trying to do? In Rev there are so very many ways to skin any cat that >>>>> it is difficult to suggest solutions without truly understanding the >>>>> underlying objective(s). >>>>> >>>>> HTH, >>>>> >>>>> Joe Wilkins >>>>> >>>>> On May 7, 2008, at 3:53 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm trying to have text in a field and in the next page (like a >>>>>> book) or >>>>>> card it should start where the previous page left off. >>>>>> Hershel >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> use-revolution mailing list >>>>>> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >>>>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>>>> subscription preferences: >>>>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>>>> >>>>> Joe Lewis Wilkins >>>>> pepetoo at cox.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> use-revolution mailing list >>>>> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >>>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>>> subscription >>>>> preferences: >>>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> use-revolution mailing list >>>> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>> subscription preferences: >>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>> >>> Joe Lewis Wilkins >>> pepetoo at cox.net >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >>> preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From hershf at rgllc.us Thu May 8 22:41:09 2008 From: hershf at rgllc.us (Hershel Fisch) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 21:41:09 -0500 Subject: OT - Contact manager in Rev or ?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 5/8/08 12:04 PM, "Ken Ray" wrote: I'm working on one too. Hershel > >> Does anybody know of a contact manager that has bee written in Rev? If not, >> can anybody recommend a contact manager that is preferably cross platform, >> and >> the data is shared. I've seen a few web based solutions but none crank my >> handle. > > Bob, I know Hugh Senior's been working on one recently, and I've seen a > couple of builds and it looks pretty cool... why don't you send him an email > and he can go over it with you? > > > Ken Ray > Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. > Email: kray at sonsothunder.com > Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From josh at dvcreators.net Fri May 9 01:11:41 2008 From: josh at dvcreators.net (Josh Mellicker) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 22:11:41 -0700 Subject: animated gifs to display while the user is waiting for some process Message-ID: If you need an animated gif to display while the user is waiting for some process, this site will make you one of several cool varieties with any foreground and background color (or transparent): http://ajaxload.info/ From geradamas at yahoo.com Fri May 9 02:37:13 2008 From: geradamas at yahoo.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 07:37:13 +0100 (BST) Subject: For what it's worth . . . Message-ID: <988864.51486.qm@web37503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have been fossicking around in the murkier parts of my hard disks and have uploaded a further 4 stacks to: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrtexttricks/ Be there or be square! sincerely, Richmond Mathewson ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From geradamas at yahoo.com Fri May 9 03:21:04 2008 From: geradamas at yahoo.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 08:21:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: Text Tricks invitation... Message-ID: <473359.30220.qm@web37502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Lars Brehmer wrote: "It seems that I would need a script that replaces each old keystroke combination with the new one. " Yes you would, and it is fairly straightforward, albeit crushingly boring! You could use CASE or a large number of IF . . . THEN statements. You would have to 'chew' through your text 1 CHAR at a time. I have just uploaded an example that replaces every lower-case 'a' with an 'x' to http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrtexttricks/ fairly moronic really! SUBSTITUTION.rev sincerely, Richmond Mathewson ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From dave at looktowindward.com Fri May 9 07:49:39 2008 From: dave at looktowindward.com (Dave) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 12:49:39 +0100 Subject: Knowing when a Script has changed? In-Reply-To: <473359.30220.qm@web37502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <473359.30220.qm@web37502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6DCCF188-8F13-40D6-99F8-DFA4906341F0@looktowindward.com> Hi, Is there a way to find out when a Script was last applied to an object? I thought there might be a scriptChanged message, but no such luck! All the Best Dave From 3mcgrath at comcast.net Fri May 9 08:14:54 2008 From: 3mcgrath at comcast.net (Thomas McGrath III) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 08:14:54 -0400 Subject: ANN: Quartz Composition Filters in Revolution for OSX In-Reply-To: <48227976.3000907@hindu.org> References: <482260B4.2010301@hindu.org> <48227976.3000907@hindu.org> Message-ID: Sivakatirswami, It turns out there is a way to script some aspects of the Quartz Composition FIlters. It is a round about way and does not allow any further control than what I did so I don't think I will redo the demo stack just yet. For instance if the QuartzComposer has a filter Glow and it has a range of 0 - 1 I can't figure out how to change the range, just the filter. But here is the script: tell application "Automator" activate set myWorkflow to make new workflow -- set myAction1 to Automator action "Find Finder Items" tell myAction1 to set value of setting "where" to "User" -- Can't set the file to find via script... add myAction1 to myWorkflow -- set myAction2 to Automator action "Apply Quartz Composition Filter to Image Files" add myAction2 to myWorkflow set myNewSetting to last Automator action of myWorkflow set value of setting "filterIdentifier" of myNewSetting to "Glow" -- comment the following to just test execute myWorkflow close myWorkflow without saving end tell This line will get the setting that can be changed for the action: set myActions to the settings of Automator action "Apply Quartz Composition Filter to Image Files" result: {setting "filterIdentifier" of Automator action id "com.apple.QuartzComposer.automatorActions.imageFilter" of application "Automator"} Now, if someone knows a way to change the actual other setting for the Setting of the Action then we can get somewhere in Rev with this. Yours truly, Tom McGrath, (Not at RunRevLive) From andres at bakno.com Fri May 9 09:06:34 2008 From: andres at bakno.com (Andres Martinez) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 09:06:34 -0400 Subject: RunRevLive Message-ID: <69B36668-2A4F-4059-93C4-FE5A3675E039@bakno.com> Hello folks Unfortunately I was unable to attend to the Developers Conference in Las Vegas (I have a new member of the family arriving this monday : ) To those of you lucky to be there, I hope you have a great time, I am sure the event will be awesome, full of amazing information and interesting people to meet. Enjoy, Andres Martinez www.baKno.com From lfredricks at proactive-intl.com Fri May 9 13:31:11 2008 From: lfredricks at proactive-intl.com (Lynn Fredricks) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Revolution Live Coverage here Message-ID: <49966.67.106.233.151.1210354271.squirrel@webmail.proactive-intl.com> Hello all, I dont know how many are blogging Runrev Live - but I am :-) http://www.lynnfredricks.com Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Proactive International, LLC Because it is About Who You Know (tm) From psahores at free.fr Fri May 9 15:09:56 2008 From: psahores at free.fr (Pierre Sahores) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 21:09:56 +0200 Subject: Revolution Live Coverage here In-Reply-To: <49966.67.106.233.151.1210354271.squirrel@webmail.proactive-intl.com> References: <49966.67.106.233.151.1210354271.squirrel@webmail.proactive-intl.com> Message-ID: Thanks Lynn ! ... and Thanks to all at RunRev and around !!! The best of the best is yet coming in the next months. Congratulations for preparing what we went waiting for, for years ;-) Do you remimber, Kevin, Apple Expo Paris '04 and '05 ? Tomcat against JBoss against PHP/Ajax against ColdFusion/Flash against Python/Zope against Ruby on Rails ? .......... Rev is yet becoming the next generation Web RAD we needed ! A great day :-) Kind Regards, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com Le 9 mai 08 ? 19:31, Lynn Fredricks a ?crit : > Hello all, > > I dont know how many are blogging Runrev Live - but I am :-) > > http://www.lynnfredricks.com > > > Best regards, > > Lynn Fredricks > President > Proactive International, LLC > > Because it is About Who You Know (tm) > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From noelf at nomigraphics.com Fri May 9 15:22:13 2008 From: noelf at nomigraphics.com (Noel Fields) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 12:22:13 -0700 Subject: Using a variable in a URL Statement In-Reply-To: <49966.67.106.233.151.1210354271.squirrel@webmail.proactive -intl.com> References: <49966.67.106.233.151.1210354271.squirrel@webmail.proactive-intl.com> Message-ID: <0MKpCa-1JuYAe0Keq-00039I@mrelay.perfora.net> Ok, need some help here. If I refer to a file in a put url statement, all is well. However if I use a variable like: put url (CurrentViseme) into ViseMe I'm getting a blank. I've checked that the CurrentViseme variable does have the proper information in it. Help :) - Noel From pmbrig at gmail.com Fri May 9 15:27:40 2008 From: pmbrig at gmail.com (Peter Brigham) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 15:27:40 -0400 Subject: RRe: Continues flds In-Reply-To: <20080508170005.BE5AE489B39@mail.runrev.com> References: <20080508170005.BE5AE489B39@mail.runrev.com> Message-ID: <8F3C8489-021F-408A-B112-E70208A3A4D8@gmail.com> On May 8, 2008, Eric Chatonet wrote: > Bonjour Hershel, > > Le 8 mai 08 ? 00:53, Hershel Fisch a ?crit : > >> I'm trying to have text in a field and in the next page (like a >> book) or >> card it should start where the previous page left off. >> Hershel > > Two years ago I did it in a kind of 'book' layout: see the LAMM > project at http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/?r=logiciels&l=en > As the user could change the text size, I had to reorganize it on - > the-fly and calculate 'text flow'. > The only thing I remember well is that was tricky ;-) > I ended by having a single card with one (or two) field containing > the whole text (without scroll bar) and just set the scroll > programmatically combined with a visual effect to 'fake' pages > turning. > So I did not use what you call 'flds continuing' but two fields only > even if a wipe left/right let the user think the 'card' has changed. > May be a clue for you? > > Best regards from Paris, > Eric Chatonet. I have a stack that does this, The Gutenberg Reader, that allows you to download texts from the Gutenberg web pages and read them in a book-like layout. You can't change the field size but you can change the font. It works by putting all the text in a two fields side by side, and setting the scroll of each field when you go to the next "page." The scroll of the right-hand field (the "righthand page") is simply set to the the scroll of the left field + the textHeight*(the number of lines visible), so it acts like a book. You can download the standalone at http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig/Gutenberg.html and I can email the original stack to anyone interested. At some point I will probably tackle the problem of allowing resizing of the stack and field sizes and/or allowing the user to change the fontSize/lineHeight, but I kept it relatively simple. Once you get the scrolling routines set in a couple of handlers (scrollToPageNbr (), pageNbrToScroll(), etc) it works quite smoothly. The user has no idea what's happening behind the scenes. Peter M. Brigham pmbrig at gmail.com From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Fri May 9 16:22:36 2008 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 22:22:36 +0200 Subject: Using a variable in a URL Statement In-Reply-To: <0MKpCa-1JuYAe0Keq-00039I@mrelay.perfora.net> References: <49966.67.106.233.151.1210354271.squirrel@webmail.proactive-intl.com> <0MKpCa-1JuYAe0Keq-00039I@mrelay.perfora.net> Message-ID: <11944F01-98FF-4CCC-ABC9-05170C87E623@economy-x-talk.com> Noel, Try: put (url CurrentViseme) into ViseMe put the result into rslt if rslt is not empty then -- show an error here end if Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 9-mei-2008, om 21:22 heeft Noel Fields het volgende geschreven: > Ok, need some help here. > > If I refer to a file in a put url statement, all is well. > > However if I use a variable like: > > put url (CurrentViseme) into ViseMe > > I'm getting a blank. > > I've checked that the CurrentViseme variable does have the proper > information in it. Help :) > > - Noel > From noelf at nomigraphics.com Fri May 9 18:14:40 2008 From: noelf at nomigraphics.com (Noel Fields) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 15:14:40 -0700 Subject: Using a variable in a URL Statement In-Reply-To: <11944F01-98FF-4CCC-ABC9-05170C87E623@economy-x-talk.com> References: <49966.67.106.233.151.1210354271.squirrel@webmail.proactive-intl.com> <0MKpCa-1JuYAe0Keq-00039I@mrelay.perfora.net> <11944F01-98FF-4CCC-ABC9-05170C87E623@economy-x-talk.com> Message-ID: <0MKp8S-1JuarU30vS-0002R2@mrelay.perfora.net> That was the problem! Thanks! - Noel At 01:22 PM 5/9/2008, you wrote: >Noel, > >Try: > >put (url CurrentViseme) into ViseMe >put the result into rslt >if rslt is not empty then > -- show an error here >end if > >Best, > >Mark > >-- > >Economy-x-Talk >Consultancy and Software Engineering >http://economy-x-talk.com >http://www.salery.biz > >Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. >Download at http://www.salery.biz > >Op 9-mei-2008, om 21:22 heeft Noel Fields het volgende geschreven: > >>Ok, need some help here. >> >>If I refer to a file in a put url statement, all is well. >> >>However if I use a variable like: >> >>put url (CurrentViseme) into ViseMe >> >>I'm getting a blank. >> >>I've checked that the CurrentViseme variable does have the proper >>information in it. Help :) >> >> - Noel > >_______________________________________________ >use-revolution mailing list >use-revolution at lists.runrev.com >Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >subscription preferences: >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution From lfredricks at proactive-intl.com Fri May 9 21:18:01 2008 From: lfredricks at proactive-intl.com (Lynn Fredricks) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 18:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Mirye Birds of a Feather Meeting at RunRev Live Message-ID: <50635.71.49.218.101.1210382281.squirrel@webmail.proactive-intl.com> Hello, If you are at the Revolution Live conference and want to participate in the Birds of a Feather meeting on working with Mirye, we will meet in the front area of the convention area at 7:15 PM - we will move to a location depending on the size of the group. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Mirye Software Publishing http://www.mirye.com From geradamas at yahoo.com Sat May 10 16:22:04 2008 From: geradamas at yahoo.com (Richmond Mathewson) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 21:22:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: How I spent Saturday night. Message-ID: <929091.77309.qm@web37505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Uploaded a stack that colourises individual CHARs to http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrtexttricks/ sincerely, Richmond Mathewson ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From katir at hindu.org Sat May 10 17:25:06 2008 From: katir at hindu.org (Sivakatirswami) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 11:25:06 -1000 Subject: Revolution Live Coverage here In-Reply-To: <49966.67.106.233.151.1210354271.squirrel@webmail.proactive-intl.com> References: <49966.67.106.233.151.1210354271.squirrel@webmail.proactive-intl.com> Message-ID: <482612B2.80705@hindu.org> Aloha, Lynn: Your site seems to be down today....died under all the all billions of hits from Rev users not at the conference who want to know what is going on? :-) Sivakatirswami Lynn Fredricks wrote: > Hello all, > > I dont know how many are blogging Runrev Live - but I am :-) > > http://www.lynnfredricks.com > > > Best regards, > > Lynn Fredricks > President > Proactive International, LLC > > Because it is About Who You Know (tm) > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > From lfredricks at proactive-intl.com Sat May 10 19:07:14 2008 From: lfredricks at proactive-intl.com (Lynn Fredricks) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 16:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Revolution Live Coverage here In-Reply-To: <482612B2.80705@hindu.org> References: <49966.67.106.233.151.1210354271.squirrel@webmail.proactive-intl.com> <482612B2.80705@hindu.org> Message-ID: <49272.71.49.218.101.1210460834.squirrel@webmail.proactive-intl.com> > Your site seems to be down today....died under all the all billions of > hits from Rev users not at the conference who want to know what is going > on? :-) Ak! Yes, my blog is currently down. The server its on is wacky but being fixed. I updated it this morning with some information on presentations by Ken Ray and Phil Davis. I sat in a good portion of Scott Rossi's Multimedia 2, which showed some really impressive screen effects, but unfortunately couldn't get to my blog. I also put up some short information on Valentina Reports and Valentina Studio Pro beta. Betas are available for download - as soon as the blog is back up, help yourself :-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Proactive International, LLC Because it is About Who You Know (tm) From revlist at azurevision.co.uk Sun May 11 07:11:29 2008 From: revlist at azurevision.co.uk (Ian Wood) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 12:11:29 +0100 Subject: Manipulating plist files on OS X - easy saving of prefs Message-ID: I've been having another look at storing preferences for Rev apps, this time for a Mac-only one (guess which one starting with AA...). I remembered that Rev automatically makes a plist file in the user's preferences folder, and it occurred to me that it would make a lot of sense to use this file... ;-) Then I remembered the 'defaults' read and write command... function ijwPList_Write tDomain, tKey, tString put "defaults write" && tDomain && quote & tkey & quote && "'" & tString & "'" into tShell return shell(tShell) end ijwPList_Write function ijwPlist_Read tDomain, tKey put "defaults read" && tDomain && quote & tKey & quote into tShell return shell(tShell) end ijwPlist_Read These two functions allow you to read and write pretty well any info from and to any plist preferences file - no need to deal with text files or XML or anything. Note 1 - the write command will also add new keys to a plist file. Note 2 - 'tDomain' is the name of the file minus the extension, usually taking the form 'com.companyname.appname', or for a specific example, 'com.apple.iTunes'. Multiple periods can also be used - 'com.apple.iWork.Keynote'. OS X 10.5 defaults to storing most plist prefs files as some form of binary that isn't very pretty, but the built-in plutil command line app will convert them back into a regular XML file if required: function ijwPlist_convertToXML tPath -- tpath must be a Terminal-safe path put "plutil -convert" && quote & "xml1" & quote && tPath into tShell return shell(tShell) end ijwPlist_convertToXML Hope people find this useful, and have a good time in Las Vegas! Ian P.S. Only tested on 10.5, but should (in theory) be fine back to 10.3. From Andre.Bisseret at inria.fr Sun May 11 12:06:21 2008 From: Andre.Bisseret at inria.fr (Andre.Bisseret) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 18:06:21 +0200 Subject: RRe: Continues flds In-Reply-To: <8F3C8489-021F-408A-B112-E70208A3A4D8@gmail.com> References: <20080508170005.BE5AE489B39@mail.runrev.com> <8F3C8489-021F-408A-B112-E70208A3A4D8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7ED54859-FF75-4C42-A4A7-41D65063DA75@inria.fr> >> >> >>> I'm trying to have text in a field and in the next page (like a >>> book) or >>> card it should start where the previous page left off. >>> Hershel >>> Hi Hershel (and others in this thread), A solution could be to use the same trick as one uses in cases of complex printing. 1 - create a new stack (named "niceBook") 2 - put 4 fields on the first card - one field named "leTexte" (only on the first card) ; it is a scrolling field - Three other fields, grouped with the backgroundbehavior of the group set to true. They are not scrolling fields one is name "theBuffer"; it receives the content of field "leTexte" temporarily and is then emptied line by line into the fields "onePage" the other is name "onePage"; it is completed line by line from the field "theBuffer" ; when the field "onePage" on card 1 is completed, then a new card is created, and the field "onePage" on it is competed, and so on until the field "theBuffer" be empty and the third field in the group is a small one at the bottom of the card named "champNoPage" (it receives the number of each page) 4 - put any long text in field "leTexte" on the first card of the stack; with paragraphs beginning with titles in bold (to test one of the cases of the handler "avoidOrphanLines" (if a title is isolated as a last line of field "onePage" this line is reported at the beginning of the next field "onePage") Ex.: ------------ Part 1 (in bold) Msdlkf mllsjd lmq mlsdf mljsf mljmlkj s flopiuoem ml ln mmqf oi xxx luoxu sooisdf o diofqmmfu if mqi mfiq imsdlkf mllsjd lmq mlsdf mljsf mljmlkj s flopiuoem ml ln mmqf oi xxx luoxu sooisdf o diofqmmfu if mqi mfiq imsdlkf mllsjd lmq mlsdf mljsf mljmlkj s flopiuoem ml ln mmqf oi xxx luoxu sooisdf o diofqmmfu if mqi mfiq. Part 2 (in bold) Msdlkf mllsjd lmq mlsdf mljsf mljmlkj s flopiuoem ml ln mmqf oi xxx luoxu sooisdf o diofqmmfu if mqi mfiq imsdlkf mllsjd lmq mlsdf mljsf mljmlkj s flopiuoem ml ln mmqf oi xxx luoxu sooisdf o diofqmmfu if mqi mfiq ivp. Part 3 (in bold) ... etc etc ------------ 5 - on the first card of the stack put a button ("transfer" for exemple) whose script is on mouseUp transferText end mouseUp 6 - set the script of the stack "niceBook" to the set of handlers at the bottom of this message. 7 - click on the button "transfer" Also, you can try it after changing the size of the field "onePage" Excuse me for the french words which are remaining ;-)) This set of handlers result of a quick adaptation I just made of a set I am using to print textual reports in a couple of my stacks. Not sure it is optimized (sure it is not :-). When rereading some parts, I am not sure why I wrote them (or why I wrote them this way) ;-))) But it works here. If I have well understood what your are trying to do, normally, this script should do what you wanted to (or could approach it :-) At least seems a way to explore Best regards from Grenoble Andr? ----------------------------------------------- To be placed in the script of the stack : ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ON transferText local truc, global lineToAdd,cardNum,gPrintHeight ------------------ put fld "leTexte" into fld "theBuffer" of stack "niceBook" set the htmltext of fld "theBuffer" of stack "niceBook" to the htmltext of fld "leTexte" of this stack put the number of lines of fld "theBuffer" of stack "niceBook" into truc set the cursor to watch reduceStackToOneCard --set the printmargins to 72,50,50,72 put field "leTexte" into field "theBuffer" of card 1 of stack "niceBook" set the htmltext of fld "theBuffer" of cd 1 of stack "niceBook" to the htmltext of fld "leTexte" put the height of field "onePage" of stack "niceBook" into gPrintHeight -- - 15 into gPrintHeight put empty into fld "onePage" put empty into cardNum REPEAT until fld "theBuffer" is empty put cardNum + 1 into cardNum fillOnePage put "Page" && cardNum into fld "champNoPage" END repeat # go to last card of stack "niceBook" IF the number of this cd is not "1" THEN IF fld "onePage" is empty THEN delete this cd END IF reset cursors END transferText ON reduceStackToOneCard local NbrDeCartes, ---------------- put the number of cds of stack "niceBook" - 1 into NbrDeCartes REPEAT NbrDeCartes delete cd 2 of stack "niceBook" END repeat END reduceStackToOneCard ON fillOnePage --remplirUnePage global CARDNUM,LINETOADD,GPRINTHEIGHT ---------- go TO CARD CARDNUM put the number of lines of fld "onePage" + 1 into lineToAdd create card go previous REPEAT UNTIL the formattedheight of fld "onePage" of cd cardNum >= gPrintHeight IF the number of lines of fld "theBuffer" = 0 THEN exit repeat IF line 1 of fld "theBuffer" is empty THEN put cr after fld "onePage" of cd cardNum copy line 1 of fld "theBuffer" -- IT KEEPS THE FORMAT WITHOUT USING HTML select line lineToAdd of fld "onePage" of cd cardNum --FIRST EMPTY LINE paste set the clipboarddata to empty delete line 1 of fld "theBuffer" put lineToAdd + 1 into lineToAdd END repeat formatAgain avoidOrphanLines END fillOnePage ON formatAgain IF the formattedheight of fld "onePage" >= the height of field "onePage" THEN REPEAT until the formattedheight of fld "onePage" < the height of fld "onePage" --IF the mouseclick THEN exit repeat copy last line of fld "onePage" go next IF the clipboarddata is empty THEN put cr before fld "onePage" ELSE select before fld "onePage" paste set the clipboarddata to empty go previous delete last line of fld "onePage" END IF END repeat END IF END formatAgain ON avoidOrphanLines SWITCH CASE the textstyle of last line of fld "onePage" is "bold"\ AND the foregroundcolor of last line of fld "onePage" is empty --"0,0,0" copy last line of fld "onePage" go next select before fld "onePage" paste set the clipboarddata to empty go previous delete last line of fld "onePage" break CASE the foregroundcolor of last line of fld "onePage" is "0,0,255" copy last line of fld "onePage" go next put cr before fld "onePage" select before fld "onePage" paste go previous delete last line of fld "onePage" break CASE first char of last line of fld "onePage" is "*" and\ the number of chars of last line of fld "onePage" < 50 copy last line of fld "onePage" go next put cr before fld "onePage" select before fld "onePage" paste go previous delete last line of fld "onePage" break END switch END avoidOrphanLines ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amjohnson09 at gmail.com Sun May 11 16:20:40 2008 From: amjohnson09 at gmail.com (aj) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 16:20:40 -0400 Subject: Custom styled ComboBox or Option Menu? Message-ID: <95d3c7350805111320i44854ef2wb9496c8767a934f3@mail.gmail.com> I was wondering is there any way to change the style or color of combobox/option menus in revolution and if that isn't possible how would you go about creating your own? AJ From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Sun May 11 18:42:02 2008 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 00:42:02 +0200 Subject: Custom styled ComboBox or Option Menu? In-Reply-To: <95d3c7350805111320i44854ef2wb9496c8767a934f3@mail.gmail.com> References: <95d3c7350805111320i44854ef2wb9496c8767a934f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6D2DCEE9-631F-428E-AD59-2AF9158DFBE7@economy-x-talk.com> AJ, You can make a stack with your own menu items, including icons. Use the property inspector to assign it to a menu button, as a "stack panel". I made a very simple example, which you can find in RevOnline, user name Mark, title Sample Menu. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Color Converter does what it says. Download it at http://economy-x-talk.com/cc.html On 11 mei 2008, at 22:20, aj wrote: > I was wondering is there any way to change the style or color of > combobox/option menus in revolution and if that isn't possible how > would you > go about creating your own? > AJ From gbojsza at gmail.com Sun May 11 20:37:51 2008 From: gbojsza at gmail.com (Glen Bojsza) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 19:37:51 -0500 Subject: Play Videoclip Message-ID: <3d8af4150805111737w279e083ah6a8f2b7875dbddf@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, I am using play videoclip to do introductions to different sections / modules of a course. After the videoclip plays there is a noticeable delay before showing the images on the card behind the area where the video was displayed. Is there any way to reduce or stop the delay ... after the video has stopped there is a moment of "blank / white" space shown prior to the images showing up. thanks in advance, Glen From amjohnson09 at gmail.com Sun May 11 22:08:31 2008 From: amjohnson09 at gmail.com (aj) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 22:08:31 -0400 Subject: Custom styled ComboBox or Option Menu? Message-ID: <95d3c7350805111908x44475238y6f51cd533981e81d@mail.gmail.com> Thank you for replying Mark I really appreciate your assistance, but when I say the style of the combobox/option menu I mean the actual button that holds the menu items itself? Is there anyway to change the color or the look of it? From niconiko at gmail.com Sun May 11 23:00:37 2008 From: niconiko at gmail.com (Nicolas Cueto) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 12:00:37 +0900 Subject: slow load URL Message-ID: <1e91b2b70805112000x16537bfbn7caa9ea932ec3bb2@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I have a stack that requires dowloading 40 to 200 image/sound files (about 40Kb each). The download time is pretty long so I'm wondering if part of the problem is my script, which I've included below. Thank you. -- Nicolas Cueto on startDownloads set the socketTimeoutInterval to 15000 put theUrl into tTheUrl /* Clear any cached urls. */ repeat for each line thisURL in the cachedURLs unload URL thisURL end repeat repeat for each line tImgOrSndID in tImgOrSndIDs put tTheUrl & tImgOrSndID into tURLPath load URL tURLPath ShowInfo tDU wait until "showInfo" is not among the items of the pendingMessages with messages end repeat end startDownloads -- ShowInfo is a pending message which -- monitors download status every 10 milliseconds. -- By Eric Chatonet. on ShowInfo pUrl local tStatus,tResult ----- put URLStatus(pUrl) into tStatus switch case word 1 of tStatus = "error" answer "Sorry: invalid URL or no connection." put pUrl & cr after gFailedDownloads break case tStatus = empty answer "Sorry: invalid URL or no connection." put pUrl & cr after gFailedDownloads break case word 1 of tStatus = "timeout" answer "Sorry: time out." put pUrl & cr after gFailedDownloads break case item 1 of tStatus = "loading" break case word 1 of tStatus = "cached" exit ShowInfo break end switch send "ShowInfo" && pUrl to me in 10 milliseconds end ShowInfo From pmbrig at gmail.com Sun May 11 23:19:48 2008 From: pmbrig at gmail.com (Peter Brigham) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 23:19:48 -0400 Subject: fetching a zip code Message-ID: <4EC1B1E5-99EA-4406-ADD7-E32F124A8A43@gmail.com> Here's something I arrived at after thinking more about Scott Rossi's observation a month or two ago (re the Movie Finder stack) about using the URL functions in Rev without ever actually opening a browser. The following handler operates on a text field into which the user enters an address, and if you don't know the zip code it can be fetched automagically. Watch line-wraps: on getZip put fld "addr" into tAddr if word -1 of tAddr is a number then exit getZip -- already have zip code put tAddr into origAddr put line 1 of tAddr into addr1 if char 1 of addr1 is not a number and word 1 of addr1 <> "One" then -- probably a company name, or some such delete line 1 of tAddr put line 1 of tAddr into addr1 end if if word 1 of addr1 = "One" then put "1" into word 1 of addr1 -- google expects '1' not the 'One' that some snootier places use -- the following is to handle things like '110 Main St. - Suite 200' -- delete those before sending address to google if " - " is in addr1 then -- n-dash delete char (offset(" - ",addr1)) to -1 of addr1 else if " ? " is in addr1 then -- option-dash delete char (offset(" ? ",addr1)) to -1 of addr1 else if " ? " is in addr1 then -- m-dash delete char (offset(" ? ",addr1)) to -1 of addr1 else if "#" is in addr1 then -- to handle apartment numbers -- delete those before sending address to google delete char (offset("#",addr1)) to -1 of addr1 end if put sr(addr1) into line 1 of tAddr -- now, format for google replace return with ", " in tAddr put "http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=" into tURL replace space with "+" in tAddr replace "++" with "+" in tAddr put tAddr after tURL put URL tURL into thePage if the result <> empty then answer "Can't get zip code. Check your online connection." as sheet exit getZip end if put offset("sxpo:",thePage) into ofs -- ...sxpr:"MA",sxpo:"02135",sxcn:"US"... put char ofs+6 to ofs+10 of thePage into tZip if tZip is a number then put origAddr & " " & tZip into fld "addr" else answer "Can't get zip code." as sheet end if end getZip function sr str -- strip returns and other white space fore & aft return word 1 to -1 of str end sr I originally called the handler on closefield, but if you aren't online then you get a potentially spurious answer dialog. Instead I call it from a menupick handler in a popup menu triggered by a right click on the field, giving the user more control. I tried to do something more elegant than fetching a page containing a whole map from google, but I couldn't find any simple RSS feed for zip codes, and all the other zip code search pages I found used java so I couldn't construct a URL search string from the address. Even so, the script takes less than half a second to add the zip code to the field, unless the network is clogged. I love the idea of doing this kind of thing "behind the scenes," as it were. BTW, Scott, I took the liberty of turning your Movie Finder stack into a standalone, tweaking the interface a bit (perhaps not for the better :-)) and adding the functionality of being able to click on a movie title and get connected with the MRQE (Movie Review Query Engine) list of online movie reviews for the film. It's downloadable from http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig/MovieLocator.html I'm interested in feedback partly because I'm finding that folks running Leopard don't seem to be able to open my standalones (created on an Intel Mac iBook G4, OSX 10.4.1, Studio 2.9 build 610). Maybe there's something wrong with my standalone settings? I'm building it as a universal binary, not sure what's going wrong.... Anyone else have trouble building in Tiger and running the resulting app in Leopard? Is there a trick to it? The Windows version seems to work fine, ironically. Peter M. Brigham pmbrig at gmail.com From eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com Mon May 12 05:45:37 2008 From: eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com (Eric Chatonet) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 11:45:37 +0200 Subject: Custom styled ComboBox or Option Menu? In-Reply-To: <95d3c7350805111320i44854ef2wb9496c8767a934f3@mail.gmail.com> References: <95d3c7350805111320i44854ef2wb9496c8767a934f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0A0C3057-E86A-4E9A-A14B-50B3949188D8@sosmartsoftware.com> Bonjour, Le 11 mai 08 ? 22:20, aj a ?crit : > I was wondering is there any way to change the style or color of > combobox/option menus in revolution and if that isn't possible how > would you > go about creating your own? > AJ As controls are drawn by the system, the only thing you can change is related to the text displayed: font, size, color, etc. Or you have to build your own custom control using images, fields, etc. Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------- From eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com Mon May 12 05:58:11 2008 From: eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com (Eric Chatonet) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 11:58:11 +0200 Subject: slow load URL In-Reply-To: <1e91b2b70805112000x16537bfbn7caa9ea932ec3bb2@mail.gmail.com> References: <1e91b2b70805112000x16537bfbn7caa9ea932ec3bb2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <384EA714-A4F2-4207-94D5-69DD76DF8142@sosmartsoftware.com> Bonjour Nicolas, Instead of setting by yourself a pending message you could take advantage of libURLSetStatusCallback: this will simplify your code. Anyway, it should not change anything about speed... that is mainly related to your own speed connection and server's abilities ;-) Le 12 mai 08 ? 05:00, Nicolas Cueto a ?crit : > Hello, > > I have a stack that requires dowloading 40 to 200 image/sound files > (about 40Kb each). The download time is pretty long so I'm wondering > if part of the problem is my script, which I've included below. > > Thank you. > > -- Nicolas Cueto > > > on startDownloads > set the socketTimeoutInterval to 15000 > put theUrl into tTheUrl > /* Clear any cached urls. */ > repeat for each line thisURL in the cachedURLs > unload URL thisURL > end repeat > repeat for each line tImgOrSndID in tImgOrSndIDs > put tTheUrl & tImgOrSndID into tURLPath > load URL tURLPath > ShowInfo tDU > wait until "showInfo" is not among the items of the > pendingMessages with messages > end repeat > end startDownloads > > > -- ShowInfo is a pending message which > -- monitors download status every 10 milliseconds. > -- By Eric Chatonet. > > on ShowInfo pUrl > local tStatus,tResult > ----- > put URLStatus(pUrl) into tStatus > switch > case word 1 of tStatus = "error" > answer "Sorry: invalid URL or no connection." > put pUrl & cr after gFailedDownloads > break > case tStatus = empty > answer "Sorry: invalid URL or no connection." > put pUrl & cr after gFailedDownloads > break > case word 1 of tStatus = "timeout" > answer "Sorry: time out." > put pUrl & cr after gFailedDownloads > break > case item 1 of tStatus = "loading" > break > case word 1 of tStatus = "cached" > exit ShowInfo > break > end switch > send "ShowInfo" && pUrl to me in 10 milliseconds > end ShowInfo Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------- From revlist at azurevision.co.uk Mon May 12 06:36:07 2008 From: revlist at azurevision.co.uk (Ian Wood) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 11:36:07 +0100 Subject: slow load URL In-Reply-To: <384EA714-A4F2-4207-94D5-69DD76DF8142@sosmartsoftware.com> References: <1e91b2b70805112000x16537bfbn7caa9ea932ec3bb2@mail.gmail.com> <384EA714-A4F2-4207-94D5-69DD76DF8142@sosmartsoftware.com> Message-ID: On 12 May 2008, at 10:58, Eric Chatonet wrote: > Anyway, it should not change anything about speed... that is mainly > related to your own speed connection and server's abilities ;-) Yep. It's also worth bearing in mind that multiple small files will often take longer to download than a single large file of the same total size... Ian From pmbrig at gmail.com Mon May 12 15:11:41 2008 From: pmbrig at gmail.com (Peter Brigham) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:11:41 -0400 Subject: fetching a zip code Message-ID: <39724C1A-7EC5-440C-B885-6FF9E41E03BC@gmail.com> On Sunday, May 11, I wrote: ***** ...I'm interested in feedback partly because I'm finding that folks running Leopard don't seem to be able to open my standalones (created on an Intel Mac iBook G4, OSX 10.4.1, Studio 2.9 build 610).... ***** sorry, my mistake, of course the iBook G4 is not an Intel machine. BTW, I don't think the problem is porting from G4 to Intel, since My wife's Intel MacBook running Tiger will open my standalones fine. The problem seems to be porting from Tiger to Leopard. Peter M. Brigham pmbrig at gmail.com From RevList at CreaTECHSol.com Mon May 12 16:37:08 2008 From: RevList at CreaTECHSol.com (RevList) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 13:37:08 -0700 Subject: How to determine Cell Position Message-ID: I have a Scrolling Table Field that is populated with tab delimited rows of data Just above that table field, I have a second, 1 row table field that lists the column titles. The data and the column titles change as I import data into the fields. What I would like to do is sort the large table of data based on which item is clicked on in the title table row. My question is. Is there a method that will tell me which cell column (item) I am clicking on in a table row? Thanks in advance. 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If you received this in error please contact the sender immediately by return electronic transmission and then immediately delete this transmission including all attachments without copying distributing or disclosing same. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From katheryn.swynford at gmail.com Mon May 12 18:29:15 2008 From: katheryn.swynford at gmail.com (Judy Perry) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:29:15 -0700 Subject: How to click/drag an object Message-ID: <4be051070805121529w7c4f7d3djaf836fa98036859c@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, At the conference I asked Jacque about this and she gave me an idea but, of course, now that I'm back home and ready to work on it, I haven't the foggiest idea of how to proceed (sorry, Mark Wieder -- I also don't remember your solution, alas). What I need is for a user to be able to click on an object (say, a locked field), move the mouse to a destination container (say, a graphic rectangle), with the locked field following the cursor along the way, and click to drop the locked field within the rectangle. I know I could use a mouseStillDown handler, but, as the user is a 7 year old child, I'm not betting on that being successful. Does anyone have any ideas? Kindest thanks, Judy From m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com Mon May 12 18:37:48 2008 From: m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com (Mark Schonewille) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 00:37:48 +0200 Subject: How to click/drag an object In-Reply-To: <4be051070805121529w7c4f7d3djaf836fa98036859c@mail.gmail.com> References: <4be051070805121529w7c4f7d3djaf836fa98036859c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <39F40A95-2F91-4DDB-8BCD-FCEDA21B691B@economy-x-talk.com> Hi Judy, Here's one possibilty. on mouseUp -- no need to keep the mousebutton pressed repeat until the mouseClick with messages set the loc of me to the mouseLoc wait 0 millisecs with messages end repeat end mouseUp Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 13-mei-2008, om 0:29 heeft Judy Perry het volgende geschreven: > Hi all, > > At the conference I asked Jacque about this and she gave me an idea > but, of course, now that I'm back home and ready to work on it, I > haven't the foggiest idea of how to proceed (sorry, Mark Wieder -- I > also don't remember your solution, alas). > > What I need is for a user to be able to click on an object (say, a > locked field), move the mouse to a destination container (say, a > graphic rectangle), with the locked field following the cursor along > the way, and click to drop the locked field within the rectangle. > > I know I could use a mouseStillDown handler, but, as the user is a 7 > year old child, I'm not betting on that being successful. > > Does anyone have any ideas? > > Kindest thanks, > > Judy From scott at tactilemedia.com Mon May 12 19:49:22 2008 From: scott at tactilemedia.com (Scott Rossi) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:49:22 -0700 Subject: How to click/drag an object In-Reply-To: <4be051070805121529w7c4f7d3djaf836fa98036859c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Recently, Judy Perry wrote: > What I need is for a user to be able to click on an object (say, a > locked field), move the mouse to a destination container (say, a > graphic rectangle), with the locked field following the cursor along > the way, and click to drop the locked field within the rectangle. Can you use the grab command? If not, you can write your own drag routine. This demo stack can help (execute in your message box): go url "http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/drag_sample.rev" Essentially you use mouseMove to set the positions of stuff while the mouse is down. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design From katheryn.swynford at gmail.com Mon May 12 19:49:51 2008 From: katheryn.swynford at gmail.com (Judy Perry) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:49:51 -0700 Subject: How to click/drag an object In-Reply-To: <39F40A95-2F91-4DDB-8BCD-FCEDA21B691B@economy-x-talk.com> References: <4be051070805121529w7c4f7d3djaf836fa98036859c@mail.gmail.com> <39F40A95-2F91-4DDB-8BCD-FCEDA21B691B@economy-x-talk.com> Message-ID: <4be051070805121649w2c243eeen36fee31c75bac7ea@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, Mark! That seems to do the trick :-D Judy On 5/12/08, Mark Schonewille wrote: > Hi Judy, > > Here's one possibilty. > > on mouseUp -- no need to keep the mousebutton pressed > repeat until the mouseClick with messages > set the loc of me to the mouseLoc > wait 0 millisecs with messages > end repeat > end mouseUp > > Best, > > Mark > > -- > > Economy-x-Talk > Consultancy and Software Engineering > http://economy-x-talk.com > http://www.salery.biz > > Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. > Download at http://www.salery.biz > > Op 13-mei-2008, om 0:29 heeft Judy Perry het volgende geschreven: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > At the conference I asked Jacque about this and she gave me an idea > > but, of course, now that I'm back home and ready to work on it, I > > haven't the foggiest idea of how to proceed (sorry, Mark Wieder -- I > > also don't remember your solution, alas). > > > > What I need is for a user to be able to click on an object (say, a > > locked field), move the mouse to a destination container (say, a > > graphic rectangle), with the locked field following the cursor along > > the way, and click to drop the locked field within the rectangle. > > > > I know I could use a mouseStillDown handler, but, as the user is a 7 > > year old child, I'm not betting on that being successful. > > > > Does anyone have any ideas? > > > > Kindest thanks, > > > > Judy > > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution at lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > From curry at pair.com Mon May 12 20:01:59 2008 From: curry at pair.com (curry at pair.com) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 19:01:59 -0500 Subject: ANN: Import MS Word and OpenOffice with WordLib Message-ID: <20080513000152.8A96F488D4E@mail.runrev.com> I'm happy to announce that WordLib 1.2 is available for download. WordLib empowers your Revolution projects to open word processing documents. Currently this includes Microsoft Word and OpenOffice files. In addition to text fonts and styles, the import library supports bullet lists and images, as well as footnotes, hyperlinks, text and highlight colors, and even tables. With a single command you can perform an import, complete with file selection and error check. (For advanced users, a function provides the imported data as htmlText in Revolution's field format, giving you complete control along with supporting handlers and information to open documents with ease.) An imported document is stored in a Revolution field, just like any other content, where you or your end-users can view or edit. Use the included Try WordLib stack to open documents and view the actual scripts used. Try it out with your own files or the included test documents. WordLib makes it easy to distribute bundled documents with your applications, so that users can view a document inside your software as well as in a word processor. (This is demonstrated in the Try WordLib stack.) If you prefer a tighter fit, you can even store documents right inside your stacks, together with all associated images, for instant display. (Display of stored documents is also demonstrated.) Maintenance for stored documents is provided so that you can easily update or delete documents. Besides allowing your end-users to open documents, this also enables you to use your word processor like an external editor for your Revolution field contents. Provide more useful documentation, spruce up your content, throw in more images, and take advantage of defined styles and other word processor features for convenient and efficient composition. WordLib 1.2 is primarily a Windows release; it may have issues on other platforms. (Mac support will be added in version 1.3. The price is currently discounted accordingly, so early adopters will save!) File formats: strong support for the new Microsoft format (Word 2007 .docx .docm .xml, Word 2003 .xml) and OpenOffice (.odt), and limited support for legacy Microsoft format (Word 97-2003 .doc). WordLib was formerly known as DocXLib, back when it imported only the new Word 2007/2003 files. I've included lots of documentation, including an illustrated step-by-step User Guide to walk you through the simple process of putting WordLib to use in your own projects. Even if you're almost brand new to Revolution, the guide will explain everything you need to know. If you're an advanced user, there is a Quick Reference and handy sample scripts to get you started quickly, and the User Guide provides detailed information on advanced features in well-marked sections for easy skimming. The download is located here: http://curryk.com/wordlib.html Best wishes, Curry Kenworthy From RevList at CreaTECHSol.com Mon May 12 20:23:24 2008 From: RevList at CreaTECHSol.com (RevList) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 17:23:24 -0700 Subject: How to determine Cell Position In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How to use Revolution on May 12, 2008 at 1:37 PM -0700 wrote: >I have a Scrolling Table Field that is populated with tab delimited rows >of data >Just above that table field, I have a second, 1 row table field that lists >the column titles. >The data and the column titles change as I import data into the fields. > >What I would like to do is sort the large table of data based on which >item is clicked on in the title table row. >My question is. >Is there a method that will tell me which cell column (item) I am clicking >on in a table row? > >Thanks in advance. Never mind. I figured out a way. As long as I have spaces in the title field using