Mikey- > int myVar = ++someOtherVar To be fair about this, there's really no reason to start off by placing this all in one line just because you can: int myVar; ++someOtherVar; // or someOtherVar = someOtherVar + 1; myVar = someOtherVar; does the same thing and is (somewhat) easier for newbies to grasp. -- Mark Wieder mwieder at ahsoftware.net