Code Signing Anyone?
Joe Lewis Wilkins
pepetoo at cox.net
Tue May 22 10:02:17 EDT 2007
So, right this minute, without a "cert", if I distribute an
application for Windows on a CD or download from a website, what is
the user's experience? Seems like just another one of M$'s ploys to
make money on everything that goes into a Window's computer; but many
times over. Rather astute strategy I should think. Just one more
reason to dislike the Window's platform.
Joe Wilkins
On May 22, 2007, at 5:11 AM, Scott Kane wrote:
> Hi Bill, Jacqui and all,
>
>> That's neither possible nor desirable.
>
> Indeed. It would be grounds for a cert to be pulled by the
> authenticator.
>
>> It's not possible because the code signing takes into account a
>> checksum for the whole .exe (along with other factors) and that is
>> different with every application created, even though the embedded
>> engine is the same.
>
> Yep. That's exactly right. If it were even possible then every
> IDE developer on the planet would be issueing their programmer
> customers with cert's and that would make the cert's useless. The
> whole point is to make each application unique, identifiable and
> trackable (a cert can be pulled by Microsoft or their authorized
> issuer which brings up an even nastier dialog box). Each cert'
> applicant is verified manually (by a human) with human readable
> documentation.
>
>> It's not desirable because then any miscreant could download a
>> trial copy of Rev, write the next great trojan horse virus malware
>> spybot and it would appear to have been "signed" by Runtime Rev.
>
> Which is the whole point of the cert' as Bill rightly says.
>
>> In Windows XP, unsigned applications aren't so bad. But the end
>> user experience gets much worse under Windows Vista, especially
>> with limited accounts and UAC active. Signing applications is
>> something anyone who distributes on Windows should know about. I
>> hope Scott writes up the article.
>
> Judging by the reaction I'd say writing it is a go and I'm going to
> enquire about getting a special price for RR customers but I can't
> guarantee that so don't hold me to it as it will probably depend on
> the number of potential customers. I'll get onto it this week and
> submit it to Heather etc and hopefully they'll publish it in the
> near future. :-)
>
> Scott Kane
> "When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something
> is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that
> something is impossible, he is very probably wrong."
> Arthur C Clarke
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