Clause in the Valentina License

[Ruslan Zasukhin]

On 5/5/07 1:20 PM, "Peter Alcibiades" <palcibiades-first at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Hi Peter,

The most correct explanation of this will give Lynn Fredricks.

I remember that exists a couple of restrictions in EULA, which prevent
developer from developing of ROYALTY FREE application which is ala-FileMaker
or ala-Access.

I.e. Paradigma of course do not want that somebody  have buy cheap ADK e.g.
V4REV for $200-300, develop FileMaker killer and start sale thousands of
copies without any royalty. Because Paradigma self develop such kind of
product - Valentina Studio.

But if you very want develop own kind of FileMaker-killer based on Valentina
engine - no problems - just contact Paradigma and make special contract for
this project. 

For any other products as Games, Educational, Accounting, Catalogs, and so
on, which are not **GENERAL-KIND DB MANAGER** you have no any issues.

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Below EXPORT-issue was added into our EULA when one company that is our
competitor have integrate V4MD/Valentina engine into _own GUI General Kind
DBMS tool_ to import data from Valentina dbs.

We have told them 
    * we do not like this
    * remove this feature from your app or pay us royalty :)
    * or people can just use CVS export from Valentina Studio,
        then import CVS into your app.

They have agree to remove this feature from that app, and instead we
together develop open source import/export Utility that convert between few
data formats.

That is the story.

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So do not worry. We not going link you to Valentina format.
Valentina engine have easy to use
    Vcursor.ExportText()
    Vcursor.ImportText()

As well as ODBC driver to get data from Valentina db via ODBC.


> Thanks for the link.  I always read license agreements before installing, and
> came on the following:
> 
> "EXPRESS LIMITATIONS ON WORKS THAT CONVERT VALENTINA DATABASES.
> 
> "If your Work includes the ability to extract data from a Valentina Database
> and then transform, translate or convert the extracted data into another
> database format, including, but not exclusive to the following formats, such
> use, unless allowed under a separate, signed agreement between You and
> PARADIGMA, constitutes a breach of this Agreement: mySQL (or its successor
> products), IBM DB 2 (or its successor products), SQLite (including its
> successor products or derivations from the source code of SQLite), Firebird
> (including its successor products or derivatives from the source code of
> Firebird), any open source database, Filemaker, V12, Access. The limitation
> in the preceding sentence applies even if the work transforms, translates or
> converts into an intermediary format of any kind, including any form of text
> or XML. Contact PARADIGMA to inquire about waivers of this provision."
> 
> What is this saying exactly?
> 
> Is it saying that if I write an application in Rev using Valentina for Rev,
> and provide the ability for my user to export his own data, that he has keyed
> in himself, into csv tables, with a view to enabling him to use his own data
> as he chooses in a different database, and not be tied forever to a Valentina
> database, then I have violated the terms of the license, and he has also if
> he uses the export feature?
> 
> And with regard to me, the potential buyer, is this by implication asserting
> that Paradigma has the right to impose post-sale restrictions on the use I
> may make of the product?  That is, it can technically be used to do some
> things, but it is sold with a post sale restriction on use which forbids
> anyone to do them?  Rather like, to take an obviously absurd example, I take
> my Sony DVD player home and discover that by opening the package I have
> agreed not to play any but Sony movies on it?
> 
> These restrictions have been generally ruled unlawful and anti-competitive in
> the EU for obvious reasons.

-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

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