How to determine bug severity level?

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Stephen,

you need to read what I wrote more carefully. What I said was said  
"strongly", but not to the extent that you have interpreted it. And I  
didn't "spew" out anything, other than stating that I agreed with  
what Michael had said. There was no "venom" in any of my comments.  
Plus, I've learned over the years that sometimes the "squeaky-wheel"  
is the only way to go. I, personally, have no complaints with the  
performance, but if the situation as Michael stated is correct, it is  
not very healthy. Once again, IMHO. If you've followed any of what  
I've been doing since joining the Rev List, you would know that I am  
anything but Rev's harshest of critics. There appear to be two  
schools of thought about Rev's recent performance regarding bug  
fixes. I have no reason to join either side.

Joe Wilkins

On Jun 21, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote:

> Just to balance a rather irresponsible statement from the poster  
> below (as there are prospective Rev people on the edge of buying  
> the product also reading these words )  --
>
> It seems the poster and I are on separate dimensions as I'm working  
> on a major app, using a great percentage of 2.8 features and don't  
> see "the scope and bugginess there appears to be in the current Rev  
> release" that he talks about.
>
> Rev today is LIGHT YEARS more stable and reliable than 3 years ago,  
> when I first revisited Rev (after passing on the baffling and  
> unattractive early versions of Metacard). And we can feel the  
> results of the long conversion from the earlier 'spaghetti' code of  
> earlier version.
>
> In the poster's own words, he 'haven't personally experienced all  
> of the "reported" problems' yet he's spewing generalizations about  
> the product, and making a broad statement of people 'leaving'.
>
> Since this list doesn't seem to be crawling with hundreds of  
> complaints similar to his, I'll have to assume the poster was  
> exaggerating, and urge the poster to restrain himself when  
> presenting broad criticism of the product on the product's mail list.
>
> What is the intention of these baiting posts? To gather consensus  
> to 'kick Rev's ass' into compliance with some kind of populist  
> uprising? This is a 'How To Use Revolution' list, not the broad  
> complaint corner.
>
> It must be depressing to be a coder in the thick of bug fixing and  
> feature design at Rev and hear gross statements like this.
>
>
>> IMO your are 100% on target. Frankly, I'm appalled at the scope  
>> and degree of bugginess there appears to be in the current Rev  
>> release. I don't see how anyone can have confidence in what they  
>> are doing as things  stand. Were I working with the types of apps  
>> I used to produce with HC, and foresaw inaccurate or lost data,  
>> I'd just throw up my hands and withdraw from the game.  
>> Fortunately, in the fifteen years my apps were in used with HC, I  
>> never had to do that. Since I haven't personally experienced all  
>> of the "reported" problems mentioned, I can still be somewhat  
>> reserved in my criticism; but not for long. AFAIC, even work- 
>> arounds are only acceptable on a VERY temporary basis. We can only  
>> make allowances for "all the great stuff that Rev does that can't  
>> be done any other way" for just so long. It appears from the  
>> temper of this list that this "so long" could become "adios" for  
>> some.
>>
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> stephen barncard
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