AW: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported?

Tiemo Hollmann TB toolbook at kestner.de
Mon Feb 19 07:16:22 EST 2007


Hey, good advise Richard, didn't thought about that!
Thanks Tiemo

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
> bounces at lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Richard Miller
> Gesendet: Montag, 19. Februar 2007 12:55
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported?
> 
> Tiemo,
> 
> You'll find far greater control with the player object than with the
> play command. To step through with the player, you simply
> 
>      set the currenttime of player x to y
> 
> and use this in a loop and/or with the mousedown command.
> 
> Look in the documentation for currenttime, duration, endtime,
> starttime, timescale, and alwaysbuffer, and sort through how to use
> those. Combine this functionality with Trevor's great EnchangedQT
> externals and you have all the functionality you need.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> On Feb 19, 2007, at 2:36 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
> 
> > Hello Richard,
> > I was just thinking the opposite, because with the player object I
> > only
> > found a start and stop command, I use the play command without the
> > player,
> > because there I have the step command included, what I didn't found
> > with the
> > player object. Or did I missed something? And stepping is a must
> > for me.
> > Tiemo
> >
> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
> >> bounces at lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Richard Miller
> >> Gesendet: Montag, 19. Februar 2007 01:40
> >> An: How to use Revolution
> >> Betreff: Re: AW: OT: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported?
> >>
> >> I've never had much luck with the play command. It's quite limited in
> >> functionality. Try the player object. Just set its filename to
> >> any .avi file and use the "start player x" and "stop player x"
> >> commands to begin with.
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 18, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
> >>
> >>> Richard,
> >>> I'll have a look for 3ivx.
> >>> When testing with avi, just nothing happened, but I don't use the
> >>> player
> >>> object, I use just the play command - might there be a difference
> >>> between
> >>> using the player object and a pure play command?
> >>>
> >>> Thank you
> >>> Tiemo
> >>>
> >>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >>>> Von: use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-
> >>>> revolution-
> >>>> bounces at lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Richard Miller
> >>>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 18. Februar 2007 18:15
> >>>> An: How to use Revolution
> >>>> Betreff: Re: OT: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported?
> >>>>
> >>>> Tiemo,
> >>>>
> >>>> The best Quicktime-compatible codec we've found is 3ivx. Best
> >>>> compression yielding the best graphics. It's at 3ivx.com, for both
> >>>> Windows and Mac. It's used commercially, for example, in the Pure
> >>>> Digital Point & Shoot video cameras (which are rather amazing
> >>>> little
> >>>> camcorders). Yes, your customers will have to download and install
> >>>> it, but that's an easy practice. We've integrated their installer
> >>>> into our own Rev installer program to make it even easier for the
> >>>> customer.
> >>>>
> >>>> AVI'S work fine in the default Rev player object.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Richard Miller
> >>>> Imprinter Technologies
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Feb 18, 2007, at 6:37 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am new to Revolution and Quicktime-Video. I have read the
> >>>>> archives, but
> >>>>> still unsure about the right way for video. I produce offline
> >>>>> content,
> >>>>> distributed on CD / DVD-ROM
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. With Revolution build-in player I can only play .mov - right?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2. As mov is only a container format I know that I can use
> >>>>> different codecs
> >>>>> with mov. Best results when testing produced the Sorenson 3 codec.
> >>>>> I tested
> >>>>> also with SorensonTM ( little less), Apple MPEG 4 (almost as
> >>>>> good),
> >>>>> Apple
> >>>>> Cinepac (bad quality) and Apple Planar (best quality but
> >>>>> incredible
> >>>>> giant
> >>>>> file size).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My question is, which codec comes with Quicktime installer, or
> >>>>> what
> >>>>> codec
> >>>>> can I assume on customer machine?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4. Are there differences of quicktime installation between
> >>>>> Apple and
> >>>>> Windows, beside quicktime on apple is preinstalled?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 5. If e.g. the Sorenson codec doesn't come with Quicktime, can I
> >>>>> install the
> >>>>> Sorenson codec additional to quicktime on customer machine and
> >>>>> quicktime
> >>>>> will grab it, if I encoded my mov with Sorenson?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 6. I encoded movs on one of my machines and playing on the other
> >>>>> machine
> >>>>> showed only "LSD-like colored blur", though on both machines
> >>>>> quicktime 7.1.3
> >>>>> (Windows) is installed. So there are obvious more factors, as
> >>>>> quicktime
> >>>>> version and codec to harmonize - what?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 7. Which codec is the best approach with best quality and best
> >>>>> compatibility
> >>>>> when using mov?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 8. As I have read on Apples quicktime site, I need an agreement
> >>>>> from Apple
> >>>>> to distribute the player with my application and have to put their
> >>>>> logo on
> >>>>> my product. Do you have any experiences with that procedure and
> >>>>> restriction?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 9. Did anyone tried to play avi or swf in revolution. I am not yet
> >>>>> so far to
> >>>>> use a shell execute, but I could think that could be an approach.
> >>>>> But I
> >>>>> don't know, if you have the chance to use controls / methods
> >>>>> with a
> >>>>> called
> >>>>> exe, so that I can control an external player from within
> >>>>> revolution (stop,
> >>>>> pause,play,step, get mediastatus,.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lots of questions, I hope not too much
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for any experience sharing
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tiemo
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