Valentina license

Luis luis at anachreon.co.uk
Sat Sep 30 18:00:20 CDT 2006


That's the thing that always gets me: The 'connections' cost.
One of the plus sides of Open Source is there are no connection costs  
for your database, you decide on the limitations/access rights/ 
priviliges (delete where least confusing).
I'm not knocking commercial databases for charging for their product,  
but I will for that very simple limitation (yes, I do see it as a  
limitation).

It's especially limiting for those on a shoestring budget with great  
ideas, and the commercial vendors lose out because of this: You have  
this great idea for an app, you see great technology in a commercial  
database, but you can't afford the unlimited connections licence.  
Your product will not sell on the basis of 5 connections, so you look  
around again and notice the Open Source alternatives. What to do...  
What to do... You incorporate the Open Source database, commercial  
vendor loses a potential client. Maybe, just maybe, in the future you  
can then afford the commercial database: Do you switch to the  
commercial/supported product? Do you risk changing the infrastructure  
of your app?

Way I see it.

Cheers,

Luis.



On 30 Sep 2006, at 8:46, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote:

> On 9/30/06 2:35 AM, "Stephen Barncard"  
> <stephenREVOLUTION at barncard.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Stephen,
>
>>> P.S. (sorry for kind of advertise, which I consider as information):
>>
>> yes, I need to know this.
>>
>> Ruslan, I've gone a long way into my project. I have questions:
>>
>> 1. Does Valentina run the main MySQL syntax as is, or is it very  
>> different.
>
> Valentina 2 supports STRICTLY SQL92 (we have use papers of ANSI)
>
>     + we add some useful SQL extensions that can be found in mySQL
>         and other dbs. For example CREATE TABLE IF EXISTS
>
>     + we have own unique Valentina extensions of SQL
>
> http://www.valentina-db.com/dokuwiki/doku.php? 
> id=paradigma:public:en:documen
> tation:vsql:reference:sqlgrammar
>
> So answer yes, if you have write SQL which follow SQL92 then it  
> should be
> easy.
>
>     The only feature of Relational model that we have not implement
>     so far -- ability to make Primary and Foreign Key on few fields.
>     Because I am sure this is bad idea do such keys in db structure.
>     We will add this soon. Just to be more compatible.
>
> Valentina have like mySQL a rich set of functions, so here also all  
> right.
>
>
>> 2. Is there a tool like CocoaMySQL (macintosh) to administer the
>> Valentina Database?
>
> Valentina Studio.
>
>> 3. You quoted a developer price for Valentina - $199 - is that for
>> one seat, deployed on any number of applications?
>
> $199 - this is for ADK like Valentina for Revolution. Single Platform.
>         yes this is for developer seat.
>         this not include server.
>
> --------
> For Application developers that want distribute server we have
>     VDN - Valentina Developer Network.
>
> Our license is very simple and flexible. :-)
>
> Flexibility and many options sometimes confuse people.
> Our license is made to satisfy even such $30 - app - developers.
>
> VDN price $599
> You pay this ONCE, and you get
>
> * Valentina Embedded Server - 5 connection. Royalty free
>
>     - so you can sale even millions copies of your app with vserver
>     - you can develop any number of applications.
>     - you get during 2 or 4 years free updates of all new versions.
>
> * Valentina for Revolution itself. As separate product its price $299.
>
> * You get Valentina Office Server - 5 connections for MAC and for WIN.
>     for no-resale and use in your home/office on 2 computers (mac+win)
>
>     As separate product Valentina Office Server/5 has price $300.
>     So this is value $300 + $300 = $600
>
> * also you get Valentina Studio ($60) GUI tool to manage database  
> as locally
> so remotely.
>
> * also you get batch of 10 connections for resale ($200).
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> -
> Total: for $600 VDN you get :
>
>     Valentina for Revolution         300
>     Vserver Office win/5             300
>     Vserver Office win/5             300
>     Valentina Studio                  60
>     10 connection                    200
>     ------------------------------------
>                                     $1160
>
>     + Valentina Embedded Server - royalty free - how to estimate  
> price? ;-)
>     + 2-4 years free upgrade
>     + FREE support
>     + you can use with VServer Office or Vserver Embedded
>         ANY other Valentina Client for FREE
>             Valentina for RB, Director, PHP,
>                   .NET, C/C++, Cocoa, COM, VB, Delphi,...
>
>
>> 4. The cost of the Valentina server - per user?
>
>     * ZERO if you use royalty free Embedded Server with
>         5 simultaneous connections.
>
>     * any additional connection can be as low as $1-20
>         depending on option you choose.
>
> ------------------------------
> For more details please read our site, also many info about this  
> present in
> in our WIKI. IT is hard gove many info in single letter :-)
>
> http://www.valentina-db.com/dokuwiki/doku.php? 
> id=paradigma:public:en:licensi
> ng:licensing
>
>
> About engine (in short):
>
> http://www.valentina-db.com/dokuwiki/doku.php? 
> id=paradigma:public:en:documen
> tation:features:kernel
>
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
>
> Ruslan Zasukhin
> VP Engineering and New Technology
> Paradigma Software, Inc
>
> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
> http://www.paradigmasoft.com
>
> [I feel the need: the need for speed]
>
>
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