Rules governing stack purging

Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com
Mon Oct 30 17:43:28 EST 2006


Dave Cragg wrote:
> On 30 Oct 2006, at 20:23, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>
>> So while we have a workaround using this odd application of the  
>> "delete stack" command which doesn't actually delete the stack but  
>> merely purges it, I'm wondering if we should consider this behavior  
>> a bug, as least as far as stack with their destroyStack set to true  
>> are concerned?
> 
> I think the current behavior can be seen as useful, although I agree  
> it might seem odd in some ways.
> 
> Say I want to do this:
> 
> set the cProp of stack "C:/myStack.rev"
> save stack  "C:/myStack.rev"
> 
> If the stack is automatically purged after setting the prop, will the  
> change be saved? By current logic, presumably not. And what will get  
> saved in the second statement?

Consider your subsequent post:

> I just remembered something (third time this week, must be the  
> new pills). Aren't "unused" stacks purged from memory by the engine  
> when it needs to reclaim memory? I think I'm referring to stacks  
> without the destryStack set, but which have been closed. I seem to  
> recall reading this somewhere, either in the old Metacard docs, or  
> the MC mailing list from long ago. If it's true, I wonder if it  
> applies to "unopened" stacks in memory too.

This implies the engine introduces a "sometimes" rule ("sometime it does 
one thing, sometimes something else"), which is generally bad news.

So to answer your question, I would suggest that saving might be limited 
to stacks which have been opened with the "open" or "go" command, 
provided the stack has its destroyStack set to true.

If a stack has its destroyStack set to false, the current behavior seems 
somewhat acceptable (once the "sometimes" part is resolved).


>> Also, would it be worth pursuing a request for a "purge stack"  
>> command so newcomers don't get the impression that "delete stack"  
>> will actually delete their stack?
> 
> You've only been asking for that for 8 years, Richard. Have patience!
> 
> But yes, I think it would be good. However, I imagine it's not just a  
> case of creating a synonym for "delete", as the behavior when applied  
> to substacks would be different.

Actually, my original request was for a related change, depricating the 
destroyStack property in favor of something less alarming:
<http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=1072>

This request is for a command, which I've just added to BZ:
<http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=3932>


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