Transcript and Dot Notation

[Garrett Hylltun]

On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:24 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:

> Garrett,
>
> From the brief readings of your few previous posts, it's apparent  
> while you have very little history with our list and community, you  
> are certainly quick to join in the fray.
>
> Both Judy and Dan are respected list members, who both have  
> contributed over a long time to this list, worthy help, opinions  
> and value. As such, your recent flame towards Dan was both mean- 
> spirited and certainly not necessary. Perhaps my opinion of you  
> will change when you have helped this community 1/100 of what Dan  
> has contributed.
>
> -Chipp

Ahh, the "Good Ol' Boy" system, and since I'm the new kid on the  
block, it's not my place to voice my opinion on something that came  
through this list.  But since Judy and Dan are part of the "Good Ol'  
Boy" system, it's ok for them to voice their opinion, even have a flame.

I would not care if he was the king of some country, how he talked to  
Judy and anyone who did not share is view, was wrong, regardless of  
his standings in the "Good Ol' Boy" system.  It's not right.

For that fact, there's a whole lot of OT BS on this list by those who  
feel they have the right use this list as their personal forum.  I  
guess one needs to be in the "Good Ol' Boy" system to do this.

The list title is "How to use Revolution", not "Dan's personal  
podium".  That, and if you're going to express something on a forum  
like this, I do believe that any user of the list has the right to  
respond, regardless of status quo among the squatters claiming  
territorial rights.

Since I joined this list, I have seen so much OT BS going on that  
it's even started to get on my nerves, and I should not have to  
unsubscribe so that those involved can continue to use this list a  
personal playground.  I very much appreciate the help I've been  
getting, but the rest of it needs to go.  It's almost as bad as spam!

In a 24 hour period, there were approximately 41 OT emails through  
this list, and approximately 28 questions/answers, of which many of  
those went OT after the questions were answered.

And within the last week, I've seen two questions go completely  
unanswered.  But there are 60+ emails regarding "Transcript and Dot  
Notation"!!!  There are 29 emails regarding "On the Democratic  
Operation of Bugzilla".  So does that seem right to you or anyone  
else?  Is it right that people are allowed to flex and stroke their  
ego's here and some people slip through the cracks who needed help?

Had not all these OT threads about 'zilla this and zilla that, I  
would not be getting upset and getting involved in these things.  And  
I'm not flaming Dan yet, just voicing my opinion of how I see his  
actions.  My real view of him thus far is that he's a pompous ass.   
Doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, only what he thinks will ever  
be correct or viable.

Rev should setup a forum instead of a mailing list.  You can setup a  
Misc section on the forum for this kind of stuff, sections for  
various levels of user experience, dedicated sections for specific  
aspects of using Rev, etc.

So in the end, as long as there are going to be OT opinions, expect  
that anyone will reply to them, and it doesn't have to be someone  
from the "Good Ol' Boy" system that replies, it can be anyone who  
feels they have an opinion regarding the topic.  You know, a little  
OT banter is ok now and then, but when the OT stuff begins to cloud  
the purpose of it, then there's something wrong.

When I realized I was getting too deep into an OT topic recently, I  
asked that anyone who wanted to continue it  with me personally to  
email me directly, and I've since removed myself from that topic  
because it does not belong on the list.  I'll do the same again  
here.  Anyone wants to continue this topic with me, feel free to  
email me at garretthylltun at hotmail.com  Trust me, I have a whole lot  
more that I would, could, should say on this, but this isn't the  
place for it.

And anyone else who's got the need to talk about this topic, or of my  
involvement in it, take it to personal emails instead of on this list.

-Garrett