Contrib to old topics - why isn't Rev more popular?

Jerry Daniels jerry at daniels-mara.com
Tue Feb 14 13:29:58 EST 2006


Garrett, et al.,

I don't think RunRev will mind us talking about Constellation on the  
board as they're selling it now! They were always very good about  
that anyway. This post is in direct response to Garret's problems  
with finding a development environs where he feels more comfort and  
less discomfort (if I may put words in his mouth).

With Constellation, we've tried very hard to come up with an  
alternate workflow for Revolution developers, but that's a fairly  
subtle thing to communicate in the "buy me now" atmosphere of web  
pages and bytes. Dan Shafer's (www.shafermedia.com) love of SmallTalk  
browsers and Chipp Walters' (www.altuit.com) frustrations with script  
editors in general were two talented and productive voices that urged  
me into building Constellation.

Also, back in the early 90's, I built a front end for CompileIt!  
called "HPW." I really liked creating an alternate workflow for  
CompileIt! users that was more project oriented. What I learned there  
was: CompileIt! was perfect for a quick demo and that's what made it  
sell. But when the demo was done and the developer used it day after  
day, he/she started losing his/her marbles.

Now, well into the 2000's, I'm trying my hand at another alternate  
workflow for another great development tool: Revolution. My alternate  
workflow for Revolution is now Constellation and its "gadgets." It's  
for those people who are done "demoing" Revolution and really want to  
work with it.

Creating Constellation has been a learning experience in the extreme.  
I was unprepared for the diversity of users and their preferences,  
but Constellation users--starting with version 2.10--have been  
telling me: "This is the one!"..."You've got it!"...and good stuff  
like that. So I'm beginnning to believe we ARE getting it. The early  
adopters got a good deal financially and had a strong voice in the  
direction of the product.

So, Garrett, here's the big delta between today's Constellation and  
last years: choice. You can really choose how you want your  
development environment to work.

We now have very flexible and clear editor "states": script-only;  
scripts & props; props-only. However, in scripts-only you can make  
the handlers disappear with a click. In props only you can make the  
preview pane disappear with a single click.

More flex: you can have Constellation "remember" how you like each  
and every object and open it that way--if you like. Would you like to  
see your properties in folders? Done, with one click. Would you like  
to organize your handlers into folders? A few comments in the script  
and it's done in one (click).

Trevor DeVore and his company (www.mangomultimedia.com) do GREAT work  
in Rev and other environs. He LOVES to use custom properties and  
custom property sets. He uses BBEdit to do his scripting--not  
Constellation or Revolution IDE. He uses Constellation to edit his  
properties and to debug his scripts. Making all that work seamlessly  
for him so he and his brother can pull down the bucks to support  
their families and deliver great products was a great boost in the  
arm for my products.

Scott Rossi (www.tactilemedia.com) has come out with a FANTASTIC  
alignment plugin (tmAlign), that makes aligning fields and buttons  
into the 21st century. When tmAlign is used with Constellation, it  
makes property editing fun, effective and downright holistic. With or  
without tmAlign, Constellation lets you can drag a property from one  
object to another. Hold down the shift key and the property gets  
applied to all the objects (that have that property) being edited in  
Constellation.

This is the stuff of alternate workflows. Subtle but dramatic. And  
the perfect add-on sale for Revolution, if I may say so.  
Constellation can go as far as we can imagine it. Why not give it a  
shot?

Best,

Jerry Daniels


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On Feb 13, 2006, at 4:26 PM, Garrett Hylltun wrote:

>
> On Feb 13, 2006, at 1:17 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
>
>> Garrett Hylltun wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> One other thing.  The IDE in Rev kind of throws me off also, but  
>>> I  believe it's due to myself having Attention Deficit Disorder.   
>>> I can  easily work in an IDE that is simply and editor with a few  
>>> buttons  and tools that I can open and close when needed, but  
>>> with Rev, the  many open windows and lack of a main editor window  
>>> where I can access  all the code of my project really throws me off.
>>>
>> You might want to look at Constellation.
>> It's not quite "one big editor window" - but it does feature one  
>> large window with multiple panes for different aspects of an IDE,  
>> and multiple tabbed pages for editing different scripts.
>>
>> http://www.daniels-mara.com/products/
>
> Yeah, bought that last year also.  At the time it made things worse  
> for me.  But I haven't run it again yet, so maybe I should give it  
> a try again.  :-)
>
>>
>>> In fact, it had thrown me so much that I just gave up on Rev  
>>> last  month.  But a few days I go I decided to give it one last  
>>> try.  This  time I'm getting along much better.  Maybe a break  
>>> from it allowed me  to let the IDE sink in or something.
>>>
>> Oh - I give up on it every other month - but I always come  
>> back :-) :-)
>
> Maybe the trend I'm going to run into also.  ;-)
>
> -Garrett
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