Contrib to old topics - why isn't Rev more popular?

[Garrett Hylltun]

On Feb 13, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

[snip]

>> I found, to my surprise, that professionals aren't using  
>> Dreamweaver and
>> GoLive and are, in fact, coding by hand.
>
> I think it depends on which professionals.  I haven't seen stats,  
> but I know anecdotally that a great many professional sites are  
> done with DW and some even with GL.
>
> It's a question of productivity, of the tradeoffs between hand- 
> coded tight HTML vs. rapid development.  And most of the code is  
> the same, whether generated by hand or by machine.  "<p>" is "<p>"  
> whether typed by hand or generated.

I have to disagree.  Just about all WYSIWYG html editors are prone to  
code trashing and adding unnecessary code.  Download any of those  
editors and create a page with them, and of course create the same  
page by hand code.  Then compare them in code and file size.  You'll  
see what I mean.

Many will use different code, or even MS specific only codes.  Or do  
something like "<div span>" instead of "<p>" or even several "<br>"  
tags instead.  Many will inject css when it's not even needed, just  
adding more the bulk of the code it will produce.

Of course, if you know your target audience is only using broadband  
connections and MSIE, then no problem.

> One could argue that all C++ introduced over C was the insertion of  
> orders of magnitude more JSR statements into the object code.  But  
> of course that's only one view, a view that overlooks the  
> productivity benefits of OOP.  One could make a similar comparison  
> of C vs. Assembler, or to bring it back home, of Transcript vs. any  
> lower level alternative.

Comparing hand coded html to the use of a WYSIWYG editor with C++ and  
C doesn't even equate.  You would need to compare something like  
PureBasic to M:Poster or other VPL  environments.  PureBasic has such  
a broader ability, and pumps out seriously small executable files,  
whereas M:Poster has limited abilities and creates larger executable  
files.  In fact, VPL's may be considered worse than a WYSIWYG html  
editor in the sense that you can't go into the source code and clean  
it up or optimize it, you have no access to the code at all.

[snip]

And just to note, Rev is not a VPL, nor are language such as VB or  
any other MS language available.  There are very very few VPL's  
around, and the M:Poster I mention is long since gone from the net.

-Garrett