data-design question

Charles Hartman charles.hartman at
Mon Sep 26 08:08:51 EDT 2005

On Sep 26, 2005, at 6:07 AM, david bovill wrote:

> Which makes me think - what is the harm of just using CDDB/freedb  
> as a backend - does the database not have fields for who performed  
> on which track?

No, they don't. Non-jazz example: go to CDDB and search on  
'Eveningland'. There's the CD, and the group name Hem -- no  
personnel. Or search on 'Flute Fever' -- a great 1963 jazz album by  
Jeremy Steig. No result -- never transferred to CD. (Anybody got it?  
I'd pay happily for a copy!)

Clearly the data I want isn't the data everybody wants. I don't need  
to know the name of the third chair second violinist in the Cleveland  
orchestra recording of Brahms symphonies under George Szell; I do  
want to know the drummer who's driving a jazz quartet. The popular  
databases are attuned, of course, almost entirely to popular music.  
(They can't figure out, in classical music, how to use the "Artist"  
and "Composer" fields that iTunes reports.) Sorry -- end of rant.

Charles Hartman

> On 26 Sep 2005, at 03:11, Alex Tweedly wrote:
>> It would be interesting to have a future version where the data  
>> could be collected as a collaborative effort (like CDDB/freedb  
>> were); although the number of people who want this data may be  
>> relatively small, I wouldn't be surprised if a good portion of  
>> them were sufficiently enthusiasts that you could get some benefit  
>> from making it available..... something to think about after the  
>> basic version is working well.
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