compileIt for revolution?

[Brian Yennie]

Dan,

You're forgetting a huge feature of CompileIt! (in fact, the only one I 
used it for, I never found much use in trying to just speed up scripts 
with it)... direct toolbox access.

While Rev eliminates a lot of the need, it would certainly be nice to 
be able to write externals in xTalk- and toolbox access is something a 
lot of people here want.

With that said, I don't think it's happening, and if anything it would 
come in the form of toolbox access from the engine.

- Brian

> Xavier....
>
> I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree about this.
>
> How in the world would you expect a compiled script or handler -- if 
> such a thing were possible -- to then be smoothly integrated into a 
> stand-alone app?
>
> We needed CompileIt! in HyperCard *far* less for performance than for 
> code protection and the ability to deliver stuff that didn't require 
> the player to be around. Neither of those is an issue today in 
> Revolution.
>
> As for performance, tuning for such situations has produced staggering 
> results. I was blown away in Monterey last weekend to watch a 
> dynamically populated menu that was pulling its contents from 100 text 
> files appear in under a second. I've never heard much here in the way 
> of complaints about slow programs written in Rev.
>
> Dan
>
> On Jun 21, 2005, at 9:31 PM, MisterX wrote:
>
>> Dan,
>>
>> Creating apps with rev has NOTHING to do with compileIt.
>>
>> I really would like to speed up some scripts to manipulate
>> arrays (where rev has some serious limitations) and the best
>> possible way to do that would be to have something like
>> CompileIt.
>>
>> I cannot create DLL to create externals in Rev can i? ;)
>>
>> There's an apparent fan group of CompileIT who would pay
>> dearly to get this functionality back. And I'd rather shell
>> out credits to rev than to Moft or MW for a dll compiler for
>> externals.
>>
>> Meanwhile, in the jungle, any rev app without this and
>> manipulating many lists or very long is definitely a dog
>> compared to any real-compiled application. Rev will never
>> compete in that "segment" compared to a real compiled app.
>> Although this is apparent, it is not when all of your
>> application runs smooth and fast, until the user enters
>> his real data.
>>
>> Example: The HotKeyN2O stack stores all properties of all
>> controls in a card when the user opens the card. The props
>> are all in array form which cannot be stored into another
>> array (time based array of object changes). So for each
>> object i have to translate array[key]=data to <key>data</key>.
>>
>> This in turn is stored into a time-based array. So if i need
>> to restore the property (any) for any object and at any time,
>> it's ultra easy - except that the translation process is so
>> slow after 10 controls trasnlated that it's USELESS if i dont
>> write that into a real-compiled external.
>>
>> So CompileIt is needed - and very much so i would say - we
>> all have these uses for it where Rev just doesn't can't
>> perform fast enough.
>>
>> cheers
>> Xavier
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com
>>> [mailto:use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Dan Shafer
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 06:10
>>> To: How to use Revolution
>>> Subject: Re: compileIt for revolution?
>>>
>>> I think perhaps you haven't yet understood Revolution very well.
>>> That's cool; it takes a while.
>>>
>>> With Rev, we don't need CompileIt! because Rev produces
>>> stand-alone, compiled applications for multiple platforms as
>>> part of its way of doing business.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 21, 2005, at 6:48 PM, Eric Engle wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Is there any chance that Heizer/Royalsoft (or anyone else for that
>>>> matter) will
>>>> make a script compiler for revolution like compileIt?
>>>>
>>>>
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