A reason for threading errors in Mail.app

Dan Shafer revdan at danshafer.com
Thu Jun 9 16:48:47 EDT 2005


Dennis...

Thanks for the detective work. I think this is the reason for *some*  
of the errors I see, but perhaps not all. Although it's possible the  
fingerprinting is so deep and smart that it is indeed too smart for  
its own good.

I wonder why Apple doesn't acknowledge this bug.

No, I don't. They'd call it a feature.

On Jun 9, 2005, at 1:30 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:

> Dan and Mac Mail.app users and anyone who replies to messages,
>
> I have noticed that Mail.app seems to put seemingly unrelated  
> threads into an existing thread at times.  I think I see a possible  
> explanation for this.  In addition to the usual method of looking  
> at the subject text, I think mail.app also fingerprints messages  
> somehow, so it knows when a reply is to that message --even if the  
> subject line is altered.  So if somebody starts a new thread by  
> replying to a thread I started or replied to, just to get the  
> header info, then replaces the body and subject lines to a new  
> topic, my Mail.app assumes it is still related to the original  
> message.  I just tested out this theory by replying to a thread I  
> started, but I changed everything about the message except the To:  
> line.  Sure enough the message came back threaded to the unrelated  
> message I started it from.
>
> A case of too smart for its own good!
>
> Dennis
>
> On May 23, 2005, at 11:55 AM, Dan Shafer wrote:
>
>
>> Howard.....
>>
>> I thought I was the only one experiencing this problem. I've  
>> posted messages on two or three OS X message boards and haven't  
>> had a single reaction or response.
>>
>> Threads seem to collect unrelated messages more or less at random.
>>
>> But it's still better for me than the old way.
>>
>> On May 23, 2005, at 4:45 AM, Howard Bornstein wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> I used to do that but I really don't like the way Mail does  
>>> threading.
>>> It never really works on my Mac.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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